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All right gang, let's dive right into it. Welcome to another episode of Webinar Wednesday.

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It's really fantastic

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to be with everyone here today. I see a lot of new names there.

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If this is your first time joining us, welcome. I am Jason

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there on the left, and we are lucky to be joined by David Rocklin, the digital strategist here at Brilliant Directories.

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This is the first webinar of 2022,

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so really, really excited about that. Twenty twenty one was an awesome year.

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We had a great final webinar there in 2021, and it's great to be back with you guys here.

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So if you're not part of the Facebook group, we do recommend joining.

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You can go to brilliantdirectories.com

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forward /facebook and click on that blue

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join button there.

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And then also that's where we'll be posting the link for the webinar replay right after we're done with this today.

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And again, lots of new names and faces out there. Welcome guys. Welcome to the BD family.

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Webinar Wednesdays are a great way to keep in touch

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with each other, that you can ask questions during the q and a, but also it's a great way for us to share some of the newer features baked into the platform.

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So we'd like to touch on features that can help you increase your traffic or convert visitors

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into paying members or subscribers.

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I like to touch on a lot of the things that can help you improve your navigation and the flow of your website to give a better experience to your members and visitors.

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So if you have questions on any of these topics or anything about your membership website, please save them.

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We'll try to get to as many questions as we can in just a little bit into the webinar.

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All right, and we have a small handful

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of BD

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lab updates. I'll breeze right through these before we get into the tip of the week.

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This first one is something I mentioned that was coming soon in the previous webinar.

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It's now released

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on the member's profile page. If you have,

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the add on, the multi location listings,

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add on, This allows members to be found in location searches that are beyond their main office address.

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So maybe my my, main address is in Los Angeles, California, but I also service

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Sacramento, California or New York.

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So with the add on, members can select additional areas they service

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and that gives them more visibility on your website. So it always worked as intended.

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As expected, the members will be found for searches in those additional locations,

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but now you can actually display those locations on the member's profile page,

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and we are also working to show the location

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on the search results pages so we know why a member is displaying

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for a certain location search.

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Let me show you what this looks like and what we're referring to here.

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So it's connected to this add on the multi location listings

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add on under the add on section. So when you have this add on enabled,

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you can allow your members to select additional locations they want to be found for, and you can choose if they can select postal code, cities,

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etcetera.

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In this case, I have a sample member and we've selected some locations in California and one in Indiana, the entire state of Indiana.

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So this member, in addition to their main headquarters address, they also serve these locations and they will be found for these locations when people search these locations on the site.

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What we have now is the ability to display these locations. Here's the sample members profile page.

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You can actually have it in the overview tab, and you can choose what position you want this.

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And here it says also serves these regions,

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and we can see these additional regions

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that this member serves.

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It's not only good for the visitor coming to this profile page to know this information, it's also good for SEO because now you have some more unique and specific keywords on this member's

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profile page.

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So if you have the add on and you want to display this on a member's profile page, let me show you where you can do that.

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So what we wanna do is go to the finance section and click on membership plans.

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And we want to edit a membership plan that has allowed its members,

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to select additional service areas. In this case, membership plan one is the one I was testing with.

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And once you're editing the membership plan, you can head on over to the profile page tab.

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And when you have this add on enabled, the multi location listings add on,

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in this first section here, what displays in the overview tab, you you'll have a new position, position six,

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and now you can select,

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list service areas. Now you can put this, you can choose any of these to go in any order.

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In this case, I've chosen position three

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for list service areas, but just as an example, let's move this to position one, list service areas and let's save those changes.

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And we'll refresh this member's profile page and we should see

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this section at the top of the overview tab now.

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Yep, there it is also serves this,

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these regions.

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And, this is a text label, so you can edit this and make it say whatever you want it to say.

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Alright, moving on here.

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Webhooks were huge in 2021 being able to send your BD data to third party solutions.

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We're continuing to add several new webhook events so you can send your data out of your BD site

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to third party solutions.

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Later this year, we'll be focusing on sending data into your Brilliant Directories website.

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So if you're using a third party

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forms like Jotform or Typeform or Mailchimp newsletter subscriber forms, you can then send that data into your BD site.

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That's coming later this year.

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But right now, we have several new ways to send data out from your BD website.

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The first one here I think is pretty huge. It's the get matched lead form.

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So that lead form that visitors fill out to connect with your members and then the members can purchase those leads.

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When that form is filled out, you can send that data to a third party solution.

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Let me show you where you can select that. I don't wanna go through all the steps of sending

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the data out, into a Zapier or another solution like that.

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But what you can do is go to your developer hub and click on webhooks.

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And we have a few standard webhooks here.

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You can now send your get match lead form submissions right here.

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You can enable this and send it to a third party like Pabbly or Zapier. I know that's pretty handy.

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A lot of people do different things with their leads. They wanna put them in an Excel sheet,

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or just do different things with them. In addition to that, the next one is pretty cool.

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When your members update their data, so when they're logged into the member dashboard,

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you can now send that updated data,

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to solutions like Zapier or Pabbly. So let me show you what I'm referring to here.

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When a member, for example, updates their basic information

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or the additional details or the about me,

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you can now send all this information here, whatever fields you've added here, phone number, company name, position,

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whatever custom fields you may add or all these default fields when there's a value and the member updates this data,

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you can now send it, using the webhooks.

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And in this case, these would be under, and I'm gonna scroll down a little bit for the webhook events,

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contact details, form submitted, that's the basic information for the member,

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the additional details,

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and then the about me form submitted.

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So if you're looking to collect all the data from your members as they update it, you could obviously use the export tool that's available with Brilliant Directories.

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But if you want to send this data in real time somewhere else to a third party solution,

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you can now do that with these three forms here. You just wanna enable it and follow the steps

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to add the the link here that will enable that webhook.

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And lastly, and this one's pretty cool, it is now released as well when posts are created.

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So if your members are creating a job post or an event post,

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when they save it and submit it, you can now send that post

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to Zapier or a third party. So there's post standard.

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Those are things like jobs and events or articles, the ones that only let you add one featured image with them.

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And then there's the photo album types of posts. Those are your photo albums,

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classified listings, product listings, the ones that let you add a gallery of images. So,

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as members create posts, you can send that data to Zapier and Pabbly, etcetera,

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using these two here, post standard and post photo album.

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So that's a good way to again, if you wanna aggregate your data to third party solutions, that is one way to do it now.

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And also coming soon with the webhooks is last year, we also, created the ability to create segmented smart lists of your members and people who left reviews.

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You'll soon, coming soon, you'll soon be able to send your smart list data

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to Zapier and and of these other solutions.

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So you'll be able to create custom smart list and then send that data

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as you see fit to third party solutions, maybe other CRMs and things like that.

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Super exciting with the webhooks there. Alright, this one is more of a quality of life things.

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If you've ever edited a form in your form manager,

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of course there's the Google recapture field where it says I'm not a robot.

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There's a secret honeypot field to kinda minimize or prevent spammers.

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And then there's the text editors, the Fuella text editors,

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that give you the all the functionality of uploading an image and and things like that.

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Before these were custom HTML fields, really confusing.

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Now they are just simple form fields that you can select and there's also a price field coming soon.

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Let me show you what I'm referring to here because if you are building out custom forms for your site,

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this will will come in handy knowing what these are.

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So, we have some custom forms here under toolbox form manager.

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This is from a previous webinar and ebook download form.

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But what we've added for you now, we are familiar with selecting different form fields like check boxes, drop down lists.

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There are several new ones here. These ones, for a lot of text editors,

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for a lot of text editor with image upload, and also the for a lot of text editor with access to the media manager.

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The for well a text editors, what are those? Let's look at a classified.

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That is the text editor that comes with all these options here.

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So, the most basic one is just the regular text editor. It does not have image upload,

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but then you can select the text editors that provide image upload for your members.

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you only wanna do that for the post types,

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that you're gonna be creating yourself as the website owner like blog posts.

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That's gonna allow you to access media from the media manager

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that saved here in your media manager list in your admin. So

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those are available. And two also are the security ones,

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security Google Recapture and security Honeypot.

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I realize most of you have never even come to this section maybe, but for those of you customizing your forms, it's nice to know that these are now here.

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You can just select this field type and you can have the Google recapture I'm not a robot to help minimize or prevent spam, as well as the honeypot field.

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There's no custom coding you need to put like it used to be.

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And then also a price field field type is coming soon and what that's gonna allow you to do

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is right now, for example, if you're posting a classified, you can enter a price like $10

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This there's something custom going on here.

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There'll be an easy form field that you can select that will make this input field simply be a price field, no customizations

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required.

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So that will be coming down the line soon as well.

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And several things are coming down the line with post comments. One of them is already released.

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As you know, your your there's an add on where members can have badges if they're verified based on their membership plan,

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and things like that. Now the badges will display with the comments.

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I can show you that and also coming soon, the ability to sort and filter comments on the front end of the website.

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Let me show you those two examples now.

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So here's just a sample post we have here.

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And if we scroll down, we can see the badges here next to the member's name.

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So this is really cool if you have verified members on your site.

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It adds a little bit more weight to the comments that they're leaving or a little more value based on their membership plan or if they're verified and things like that.

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What's coming soon is this filter here.

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The ability to sort comments,

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so your members, your visitors will be able to sort comments

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based on oldest,

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newest, and most replies. And this is pretty cool. If you wanna do a quick search for comments,

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I'll just type my name.

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So you can do a keyword search and it'll keep all the comment threads that have that keyword as well as highlighting that keyword.

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So maybe there's a this is a product page and people have left comments about the product or a job listing,

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you can quickly search

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the keywords of the comments. So that should be pretty cool,

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coming soon. And then lastly with comments, this one is still under development.

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The sort and filter one is coming out soon.

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The star rating with comments, I think this is really cool.

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You'll soon be able to enable certain post types to have

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star ratings with the comments. So if you're listing,

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maybe product listings or something that members can rate, they can leave a comment

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with a star rating. And when this is released,

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there will be a sort, based on star ratings.

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So the the closest thing I can think of is is the post type for products, but you guys have probably come up with custom post types that you create that you want people to leave comments with star ratings for.

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So this way members will be be able to have star ratings

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as well as posts will be able to have star ratings as well. It's pretty exciting there.

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That was a mouthful. We're not done yet.

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We also have two new add ons coming soon in, it looks like the release dates are February.

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We did include these in a recent newsletter that we send out.

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The first one is the ability to include file upload fields with your forms.

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So this is pretty exciting.

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Up until now, we've been referring people to the BD marketplace to work with the developer.

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But hopefully this will alleviate,

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some of those pain points. And I can show you an example of what this will look like.

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The file uploads refer forms, it's pretty self explanatory.

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Let me see here.

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Basically, you'll be able to create a custom form or update an existing default form and add file upload fields as you can see, here.

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So you can have as many file upload fields as you want.

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The visitor can add a resume or an image of their project and things like that.

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So it's gonna help improve communication between the person who's filling out this form and you, the website or owner.

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Or if it's a lead form and you want them to add pictures of their project,

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the members purchasing the lead will have these photos and that might encourage them to wanna purchase more leads because they have more information about said project.

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So this is coming, I'd say mid February. This one is coming soon.

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We're just working on some final security stuff, and things like that, but it is underway.

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And this next one is super exciting as well, member credit system.

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And I can show you some examples of how this one works.

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You, the website owner,

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will be able to manually assign credits to members which can then be used for future purchases on,

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your website.

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And we're creating some actions where members can automatically get credit rewards based on actions like upgrading

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or signing up and things like that.

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This one is also gonna be released probably, the first week or two in February.

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Let's dive in and check out the direction that the member credit system is moving in.

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So we do have a sample demo site here just for the credits demo.

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Let's take a look at what this looks like. So

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right now we are logged into a member account and they'll be able to see if they have any credits available.

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So let's go to search members.

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history of when this person got credits, used credits and things like that.

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So let's say a member is having an issue, there was a billing

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discrepancy on your site with the member, you could issue a refund for them, but perhaps instead to save the funds, you might want to instead give them some more credits, maybe a little bit more than what the refund is for.

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You'll be able to add credits to that member that might help smooth things over for whatever billing discrepancy or issue that happened on the website.

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So you can enter a credit amount.

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and we'll go ahead and save the changes.

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Okay. Perfect. So how can credits be used? Well right now,

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credits can be used if they're going to upgrade, if they're going to pay per post,

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if they're gonna purchase a digital product, purchase a lead on the website.

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let's purchase use the paper post and purchase a classified listing

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So new classified, this is the paper post. This one says I have a credit.

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So let me just use this real quick.

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Alright. Let's use this up, test, save it.

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let me just move past this part. Alright. Great.

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So I should be able to now go through the purchase process. Okay.

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So a new classified now is $20 if I want to post a classified on this website.

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I have $100 of credits.

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So new classified.

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So here is my review order. It says $20 of my 100

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available, of available credits

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will be used. So I'm gonna continue with the purchase.

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So the member's not gonna come out of pocket for anything. Their their credits are going to be used.

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listing. So what's cool is if I go to my billing history as the member,

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so you can see I had a hundred credits, now I only have 80 credits.

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and it was $20 and $20 of credits were used. So I was actually charged $0 for my credit card.

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So this is a really great way to you can give credits to your members, you know, if they you know, if they sign up for free, you can actually grant credits during the sign up process.

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I'll show you how that works. Let's actually

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let's look at the membership plan three, the free account. Now you can assign credits right now.

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The action that this is gonna be released with is you can give credit rewards when members sign up or when members upgrade.

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So maybe when people sign up for free, you give them $50 worth of credits that they can then use on leads or paper posts around the site.

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A great way to incentivize people to sign up to the site. So,

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let's say this free sign up here, this free account, if we scroll down,

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over here we can see, you have a few options displayed available credits inside the member's dashboard.

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You could do a hundred dollars reward credits to sign after upgrading to this plan.

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Now this is the free sign up, so the free account, so I don't think anyone will upgrade to this, but let's sign up as a free member and see these hundred credits assigned,

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So let's go to the sign up page.

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Just a moment here. There we go.

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Let me get rid of this admin bar here. All right. So we'll just do jasonjason.com.

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Now in a phase two,

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and this is really cool and I don't wanna get ahead of myself here, but you'll be able to have a field here and the person signing up can put a referral ID, the member ID of of the person who referred them,

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and you'll be able to give credits to people who are referring new sign ups to your site.

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and it can give credit to a member's ID who referred the sign up.

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So that's a cool direction that this can go in as well. So I just signed up as a free member.

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So I got a hundred dollars of credit rewards just for signing up to the site.

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In this case, we can also use it to upgrade

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my plan.

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You can choose if you want to grant credits and things like that, but once somebody has credits they can do things like the pay per post purchase leads with their credits.

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Let's upgrade my plan to membership plan one.

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and we'll do the monthly.

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And again here it says $20 of my $100 available credits will be used.

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So go ahead and change my membership plan.

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test payment process, payment gateway here. So we should be able to put a card on file

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and then continue with upgrading my plan with credits.

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authorizing the payment. It's gonna be use my credits,

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So that's coming soon.

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Both of these file uploads for forms and the member credit system, both really cool cool things.

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I think there's gonna be a lot of use cases for the member credit system.

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We're gonna roll out of phase one mid February and I'm excited to see how the community uses

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that add on. Alright. Let's roll into it.

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David, you have a really great tip of the week for us today.

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I do see a lot of new names and faces here, so I think this tip of the week is gonna be a hit.

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Five lessons for managing a membership

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website. I can pass it over to you, David. You can kind of take us into this tip of the week here.

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Thank you. Yeah. Absolutely.

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So being the first webinar of the new year and kind of leaning on the theme of new year's resolutions, we figured it might be good to take a step back, look a little bit in the rearview mirror, and try to get some lessons out of what you might have learned from managing

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either your first or your second or your third membership website.

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This would probably be most beneficial to some of our newest users who are just now launching their membership websites.

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But if you've had your site online for a few weeks, a few months, a few years,

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we'll be curious to see if you agree with, with the five lessons that we list here.

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Maybe you have your own to share as well.

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So diving right into it, lesson number one, this is probably the point that we've hammered home most in our past webinars is launching fast

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and making gradual improvements

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along the way. A quote that we love here is perfection is the enemy of progress.

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We really want to focus on our MVP,

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not most valuable player, but minimal viable product.

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What we can put the least amount of effort and time into, but get to market successfully.

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So, a good benchmark that we'd like to shoot for is 80%.

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Get the website 80%

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set up.

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It has pretty much everything, but there is room to make some improvements and tweaks along the way.

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Once we get to that 80%

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level ish,

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then we can launch and we can get some early feedback from our first website visitors and members, and we can use their feedback to make updates.

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The reason why we want to do this is because oftentimes,

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an idea might be really good to start, but it will probably require some changes along the way to really fine tune it and make it as attractive as it can be to our target demographic.

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So we wanna find out what we can change sooner rather than later because we don't wanna invest a bunch of time and energy into something

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that we might end up needing to change down the road anyway.

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our sales pitch, the language that we use in our marketing materials, everything like this.

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So there's a lot of benefits that come from launching fast, kind of lean and mean, and making gradual improvements along the way.

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And also with this, I think, the MVP or the minimum viable product here, it doesn't have to be just for your entire website project.

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It can be about a part of your website

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that you're creating.

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Let's let's take an example of, the add on that's coming through the member credits system.

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We have a lot of features we wanna bake into that, but we're gonna release a minimal viable product just for that add on.

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So we can release something, we can get feedback.

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We don't wanna overdevelop or over invest in something

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that we don't even know if people want or need right off the bat.

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So the minimum viable product can be for the entire scope of your of your website or just pieces of your website if you're are if you're planning to release

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new features to your site over time. That's a great example.

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And our users who have been with us for a while have probably recognized that most often with our add ons, we typically have a phase one

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and then a phase two and maybe a phase three where we roll out some additional changes a little bit down the road once we get some feedback from our users.

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we figured this previous tip of the week would be useful in this respect.

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The value of early member feedback and why every membership program

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needs a beta launch.

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So what this covers is the goals of a beta launch, and it doesn't even really need to technically be a beta launch.

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It could just be launching early with that minimal viable product,

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and then making those those changes along the way. But the goals of a beta launch,

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why we want to do it the benefits of it how to roll one out and

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maybe most importantly the metrics the KPIs the feedback that we want to look out for during that initial launch process

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Alright. Lesson number two,

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solid onboarding

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increases retention.

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So, the quote that we thought went along great with this is preparation is the key to success.

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Now, preparation doesn't just apply to us, the website owners, the ones who are rolling out the website, but it also applies to our members.

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The more prepared they are, the more knowledge they have.

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As soon as they start their membership on our website,

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the greater chances they are to have success within our community.

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So we want to get our members on the right track as soon as possible.

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And to do that, we want to provide them with some simple first steps.

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We don't want to bombard them with all the information in the world, but we also don't want to just leave them hanging after they sign up for their membership and hope that they figure everything out on their own.

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Overwhelmed and or confused members

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either they feel like this is just too much for me to digest right now or they'll feel like, well, I can't really figure out what to do right now.

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This isn't really what I signed up for.

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It's not worth my time. So, happier and more engaged members will mean less overall work for us.

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If we can set them on the right track initially as early as possible,

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we're getting them engaged in our community, engaged with other members.

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They had a clear understanding of what they signed up for.

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That means we'll have less work in the future. We'll have less support inquiries to deal with.

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We'll have less cancellation requests,

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everything like that.

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And the feedback that we get from early members, going back to that previous lesson, the feedback that we get from the early members will help us fine tune

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our onboarding process.

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Maybe we find out from our initial members and initial website users that a video tutorial like a screen share would really benefit them showing them the different areas of the member dashboard

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or a couple initial welcome emails letting them know what features they have available to them, what type of content they can find on the website, things like this, setting them up for success as soon as possible.

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And really onboarding starts

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with the homepage

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and your offering,

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when they're just in the awareness stage, when they're just learning about

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your service or your solution.

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So, you know, we often hear sometimes why aren't members signing up to my site?

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The short answer is we haven't compelled them or given them the right reason to sign up, to a site.

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Even an ugly clunky website, if they do a good job of of compelling people to sign up, the people are gonna click around and figure out how to get onto that portal.

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So why aren't people signing up sometimes is because we haven't compelled them or shown them that there's enough value to sign up.

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The second thing we hear is members aren't completing their profiles or they sign up and then abandon the website altogether,

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and that's mainly what David's talking about here is the onboarding them with simple first steps.

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We need to educate them on how to use the site, what they can get out of the site as well.

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So this onboarding is think of it as an educational experience, letting them know what they should do next, and what they can expect if they do those steps.

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So if you have members that are abandoning their profiles

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early on, immediately after sign up, or not completing their profiles, or not utilizing

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all the different sections and services that your website has, it's an education thing, and we want to provide them with welcome emails.

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Videos are great, you know, two minute video welcoming them to your site, explaining to them what to do next, and some cool areas

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of the site

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goes a long way. And

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those two simple things, good welcome emails and a one to two minute video explaining welcoming them to your site and what they can get out of it would probably change things 20 x, from the current experience if you're not doing those things, for your members.

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So that will help with retention,

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will eliminate early cancellations, and people abandoning their profiles over time as well.

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Very well said.

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And so going along with that, another previous tip of the week, how to onboard new members with an inviting welcome plan.

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covers a lot of great aspects of a welcome plan.

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We focus a lot on kind of the welcome email and maybe even an email sequence if you want to, employ multiple emails.

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But we go through kind of the things to think about before you actually do set up your onboarding plan,

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defining your audience, their expectations,

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how to meet and exceed their expectations,

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what kind of assets to include in your onboarding plan, whether it's an initial welcome email or if it's more of a kind of drawn out process, maybe you're gonna follow-up with them with a phone call, make sure they're happy with everything.

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If you're gonna kind of drip feed them a few emails along the way, things like that. So we go into,

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quite a bit of depth in this tip of the week here. Yeah.

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I think if you can nail if you can compel people to sign up and then really nail the the onboarding,

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and the welcome plan that you have for your members.

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One is you're gonna have happier members because they're utilizing your services correctly and getting the most out of it.

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But you're engaging them and they now know how to use your service, and that's kinda how word-of-mouth advertising starts to work is because they're actually getting the benefits of the service, that you're offering

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them. Exactly.

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And kind of going along with word-of-mouth marketing, number three, brilliant customer service

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pays dividends.

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So we've all probably heard the the phrase, the quote, it takes months to find a customer, but only seconds to lose one.

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No matter how prepared we are, no matter how,

427
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well thought out our website is, our onboarding processes,

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members will always have problems, whether it's a member or just a a website visitor.

429
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Customers,

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no matter which form they take, there's always gonna be problems that arise.

431
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But it's how we handle those problems and the resolutions we provide

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that they'll remember more than the problem itself.

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It's really important to keep in mind that the members who might get the most upset, you know, the ones who write raging emails or maybe you're on the phone with them and and they're just extremely upset and frustrated,

434
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it's probably because they're the most passionate

435
00:33:35.350 --> 00:33:38.009
members that you have. They're the most passionate of your users.

436
00:33:38.149 --> 00:33:40.970
They care the most about your product. They had high expectations

437
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that they think you can meet. They're just having some trouble on that path.

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And so exceptional customer service can oftentimes

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turn those most upset

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members into

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our biggest advocates.

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If we can provide them with exceptional customer service, just really exceed their expectations

443
00:34:00.225 --> 00:34:06.840
every which way, they can end up being our our biggest advocates and and telling everybody they know

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00:34:07.400 --> 00:34:10.699
how good our community is, how good our website is,

445
00:34:11.080 --> 00:34:14.460
the management behind the website instead of telling everybody

446
00:34:14.839 --> 00:34:20.139
how terrible we are. The other benefit about turning members into advertisers

447
00:34:20.599 --> 00:34:21.260
or advocates

448
00:34:21.935 --> 00:34:25.554
is that that lowers our cost per acquisition. So if we're paying for advertising

449
00:34:25.935 --> 00:34:26.675
or we're

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00:34:26.975 --> 00:34:35.315
boosting posts on Facebook and other social networks or whatever it may be, if we're paying if we have some sort of cost for acquiring

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new members,

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00:34:37.230 --> 00:34:40.369
Using our existing members to bring in new members,

453
00:34:40.750 --> 00:34:46.130
well, that's not only cheaper for us, but increases our revenue, it continues to grow our community,

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and it gets everybody engaged.

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A really important thing to keep in mind when you are dealing with customer service issues

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is just put yourself in the mind of the member or the customer.

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How would you want the issue to be resolved if you are the member who's having difficulties?

458
00:35:03.405 --> 00:35:05.380
And what would it take to make

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you really be wowed by the customer service experience?

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I think a lot of times it might take a little extra work on our part to exceed their expectations.

461
00:35:15.040 --> 00:35:20.260
You know, we could put in the minimal amount of effort and solve their problem and they'd be happy.

462
00:35:20.405 --> 00:35:23.145
But what can we do to really make them feel special?

463
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Because if we can really make them feel special, we'll have a better shot that they'll end up telling their friends, their family, their coworkers

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about our website and about our community and bring them in with them.

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There's a problem with this slide, David. I'll tell you what the problem with this slide is.

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And I and I hear it in the Facebook group and and things like that is sometimes people when they're launching a membership site or a directory site for a local region, they don't think customer service that they're supposed to offer customer service.

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They just create the website and people will join and pay and upgrade and add their profiles and their listings and that's the end of the experience.

468
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And it can be in some certain cases.

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But if you're you know if you're a solopreneur, you have an idea, you're launching, you have to create customer service experiences because

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you need that feedback.

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You need to be proactive,

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reach out to new sign ups, call them, welcome them to the site, ask them if they need help completing their profile,

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ask them why they joined the site.

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If somebody cancels, call them and say if there's any see if there's anything that you can do,

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00:36:25.185 --> 00:36:30.485
to help them find out why they canceled so you can prevent that for other people. So part of this is

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not just providing customer service because it might it might be nonexistent

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00:36:34.145 --> 00:36:38.560
for you right now because there's there's no way there's no engagement. There's no touch points.

478
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So what we need to do is create those touch points.

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Once they engaged with our community, so they know that there's real people behind it, it's not just a void.

480
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It's not just a shell company running this, you know, this website that's online.

481
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It has a soul and a personality and people behind it.

482
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But when we reach out,

483
00:36:56.615 --> 00:36:59.595
we're creating engagement opportunities, we're gaining feedback,

484
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we're building loyalty and trust and creating evangelists,

485
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and,

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we're we can then provide exceptional customer service that people will rave and rant about. So

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if you're not calling your members, if you're not reaching out to members and you're just passively waiting for things to happen on your site, I would highly recommend

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start reaching out to your members, whether it's a simple email, ask them simple questions.

489
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How did you like the sign up experience? Why did you sign up to the site?

490
00:37:26.920 --> 00:37:30.840
Maybe put a chat tool on your site so you can engage people as they're browsing your site.

491
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They can leave you messages.

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Open up the channels of communication.

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We need to create those touch points to provide customer service for customer service to exist in the first place.

494
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And to the third point here of exceptional customer service can turn members into advertisers

495
00:37:46.585 --> 00:37:48.285
and lower your cost per acquisition,

496
00:37:48.745 --> 00:37:50.205
a lot of us might not

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00:37:50.745 --> 00:37:58.819
be spending money on paid advertising like Google ads and Facebook ads, but you are paying with your time that you're putting into your site.

498
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And when you have members that are telling their friends and colleagues about your site,

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it lowers your cost per acquisition whether it's,

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it's financial

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00:38:08.480 --> 00:38:13.335
with, you know, paid ads or the time you're spending trying to get new members signed up to your site.

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00:38:13.335 --> 00:38:13.995
Your time

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00:38:14.375 --> 00:38:16.955
matters as well, and word-of-mouth referrals,

504
00:38:17.495 --> 00:38:23.575
again, will save you time and money, for acquiring a new member. So keep that in mind as well.

505
00:38:23.575 --> 00:38:27.460
But remember, you have to create those customer service touch points

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for customer service to exist in the first place.

507
00:38:30.960 --> 00:38:34.660
Those are great points, which are great segues into

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this additional piece of,

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content as well as the next lesson that we have.

510
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But before we get there, this doesn't cover customer service

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so narrowly as, you know, replying to customer inquiries or member inquiries.

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But it does cover it more broadly in the terms of getting personal with them, noticing your most active members, celebrating their achievements,

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really promoting the content that they're contributing to your website,

514
00:39:01.000 --> 00:39:01.500
and

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cultivating and and energizing your community as a whole. So this is a great article

516
00:39:06.775 --> 00:39:11.995
to go through, maybe to get some new ideas about how to kind of invigorate

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00:39:12.375 --> 00:39:15.195
your community and your website a little bit more.

518
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Alright. Lesson number four, it takes work.

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00:39:17.895 --> 00:39:25.710
So, going back to what Jason said, when you're first starting your membership website, a lot of people, they might not think that there's a customer service element to it.

520
00:39:25.710 --> 00:39:29.089
But what comes easy won't last, and what lasts won't come easy.

521
00:39:29.470 --> 00:39:30.849
Now what's easy is subjective,

522
00:39:31.310 --> 00:39:36.045
but ultimately, it comes down to how much time and effort you put into

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launching and managing

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00:39:38.184 --> 00:39:39.805
your website and your community.

525
00:39:40.265 --> 00:39:45.645
One of the most common questions that we get asked here at Brilliant Directories by some of our new users

526
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is if there's

527
00:39:47.780 --> 00:39:55.160
one thing you could point to why some membership websites and directory websites don't don't succeed, what would that be?

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I think one of the most common reasons

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00:39:58.339 --> 00:40:02.280
is that some people just don't look at the website as a business.

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Now, maybe their goal initially isn't to generate revenue. Maybe it's for a nonprofit

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or some other,

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community

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where the website itself isn't the generator of revenue.

534
00:40:13.895 --> 00:40:18.550
But, we still want to think of the website as a business and the members as customers.

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You can't launch a business in one day or a week or a couple weeks and just put it out there and hope that customers continue to come to you and they're not gonna have any problems and they won't need hand holding or questions answered

536
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Running a business takes work.

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So, whether it's a side hustle that you're starting with your website, or you're hoping it eventually turns into your full time job,

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it will take work.

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And the level of success you see will depend on how much time and effort you put into launching and continuing to manage

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the website and community.

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Along the way, initially, you're gonna have to bring awareness to your website and your community, and you're gonna have to convince website visitors

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and prospective members to eventually join, whether it's for a free membership or a paid membership.

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And then once they're joined, you're going to have to maintain

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00:41:06.535 --> 00:41:14.800
members on your website so that if they're paying, let they keep paying, or if they're free members, that they keep coming back to your website and engaging in the community

545
00:41:15.180 --> 00:41:18.320
so that the community can continue to grow and flourish.

546
00:41:19.180 --> 00:41:20.560
So it does take work,

547
00:41:20.860 --> 00:41:24.800
but there's so many rewards that come from having a successful

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00:41:25.365 --> 00:41:27.465
membership website and community.

549
00:41:28.005 --> 00:41:31.705
Obviously, there's the recurring revenue aspect, which I'd say the majority

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00:41:32.165 --> 00:41:34.985
of membership website owners are after.

551
00:41:35.285 --> 00:41:39.065
But there's also the freedom and flexibility that comes with managing your website.

552
00:41:39.549 --> 00:41:40.930
Some of our most successful

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00:41:41.230 --> 00:41:44.849
customers here, they've put so much time and effort into the websites

554
00:41:45.549 --> 00:41:49.869
that they're generating, you know, 7 figures. They've had to hire employees now.

555
00:41:49.869 --> 00:41:54.930
It's it's really turned into an actual full time job and business for them.

556
00:41:55.445 --> 00:41:59.065
So there's some amazing rewards that come with,

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00:41:59.445 --> 00:42:04.665
putting in the time and effort and energy into launching and managing your membership community.

558
00:42:04.885 --> 00:42:06.025
And then also

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00:42:06.325 --> 00:42:08.585
there's, there's the obvious benefit

560
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of the fact that you are providing some value

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00:42:12.760 --> 00:42:16.140
to your members and and everybody in your community.

562
00:42:16.280 --> 00:42:20.460
They're not joining just because they have nothing better to do. They're looking for something.

563
00:42:20.680 --> 00:42:24.460
They're looking for a solution to a problem, and you are their solution.

564
00:42:24.815 --> 00:42:27.395
So if they're sticking with you and they're

565
00:42:27.775 --> 00:42:29.715
continuing to be engaged in the community,

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00:42:30.095 --> 00:42:34.195
that's a huge benefit that you're making to your community as a whole.

567
00:42:34.575 --> 00:42:39.930
And here's here's a kicker, actually. It's it does take work, but we wanna work

568
00:42:40.329 --> 00:42:45.450
smarter, not necessarily harder. Right? So our time is limited. Our resources are limited.

569
00:42:45.450 --> 00:42:52.510
We wanna find we wanna bring things to the their lowest common denominator, whether it's the marketing or maintaining

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00:42:52.890 --> 00:42:55.470
member engagement. Like, we don't have

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00:42:55.835 --> 00:42:59.214
full time resources for every aspect of our business.

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00:42:59.515 --> 00:43:05.214
I think on the next slide actually David, here it is. Five daily tasks for membership website

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00:43:05.755 --> 00:43:10.494
owners. This was a really good tip of the week, we did a while ago, but it really

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00:43:10.890 --> 00:43:11.849
it's not only

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00:43:12.250 --> 00:43:15.549
like a mythology and an idea of how to

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00:43:15.930 --> 00:43:19.390
tackle the tasks on your website. It kinda shows you shortcuts

577
00:43:20.010 --> 00:43:26.270
to achieve things like maintaining a pulse, a marketing pulse on your site, or how you can continuously recruit new members,

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00:43:26.675 --> 00:43:29.335
you know with minimal energy, time, and effort.

579
00:43:29.635 --> 00:43:33.795
Again because most of us are are one man and one woman shows here, so

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00:43:34.515 --> 00:43:39.255
knowing how to focus your time and work smarter not harder is key.

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00:43:39.460 --> 00:43:44.500
Especially when you need to create content, may do your own customer service, do your own marketing, and things like that.

582
00:43:44.500 --> 00:43:47.860
So I think, David, did you share the link in here? I did.

583
00:43:47.860 --> 00:43:54.195
And, yeah, this is a great tip of the week because we do mention, you know, these aren't these don't have to be tasks that you do every single day.

584
00:43:54.275 --> 00:44:00.135
You could do this once a week or once every other week, and they'll make a they'll make a big difference for your community.

585
00:44:00.435 --> 00:44:02.195
This was one of my favorite tips of the week.

586
00:44:02.355 --> 00:44:08.375
It actually gave actionable steps on what you should do after your site launches just to keep things moving forward,

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00:44:08.755 --> 00:44:14.910
staying top of mind and things like that. And moving on to the last lesson here.

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00:44:14.970 --> 00:44:16.990
Ask yourself the right question.

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00:44:17.530 --> 00:44:26.415
A lot of you have, as you've joined Brilliant Directories and you've started to get your websites up and running, you might have initially spoken with Dennis from our sales team here.

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00:44:26.415 --> 00:44:33.315
And he brought up this point that a lot of people ask initially, well, how much money do you think I can make if I start a membership website?

591
00:44:33.535 --> 00:44:37.714
And oftentimes, that's not really the the right question that you wanna be asking.

592
00:44:38.030 --> 00:44:42.050
What you do wanna ask yourself is really how many members can I attract?

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00:44:42.510 --> 00:44:46.130
By asking how many members can I attract, we then have to think,

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00:44:46.430 --> 00:44:47.950
well, what do we need to offer?

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00:44:47.950 --> 00:44:52.530
What do we need to provide of value that's going to actually bring people to the website?

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00:44:52.825 --> 00:45:00.125
Because if we're not offering anything of value, if we're not offering something that people really want or need, then we're not going to be making any money anyway.

597
00:45:00.345 --> 00:45:03.645
So that's really the big question we want to ask ourselves is

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00:45:04.185 --> 00:45:06.765
who our audience is and what are they after?

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00:45:06.920 --> 00:45:12.300
What can we be providing them that's really going to be something that they're willing to pay for,

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00:45:12.840 --> 00:45:21.875
whether it's a one time payment, maybe you're offering an ebook or a downloadable PDF or a lesson course or something like that, Or maybe you're offering an ongoing membership.

601
00:45:22.015 --> 00:45:24.915
They have a recurring membership fee. Maybe it's monthly

602
00:45:25.375 --> 00:45:28.195
and you're consistently providing them with valuable content.

603
00:45:28.575 --> 00:45:31.470
Well, instead of asking, well, how much money can we make?

604
00:45:31.470 --> 00:45:37.730
That's a broad question because it depends on who our target audience is and what they're after and most importantly, what we're providing.

605
00:45:38.030 --> 00:45:47.535
So, that's the thing we we want to keep in mind throughout the whole lifespan of our membership website and our community is how much value am I really providing

606
00:45:47.995 --> 00:46:01.650
to my members and and my prospective members am I providing them enough value where they're willing to to pay for what they're getting out of the website yeah that that goes back to I think it was this point let's go back a little bit

607
00:46:02.030 --> 00:46:05.090
here. Yeah. It goes back to the to the welcome to onboarding,

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number two. And

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00:46:07.710 --> 00:46:08.850
being able to

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have the right compelling offering,

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00:46:11.950 --> 00:46:12.770
and education

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00:46:13.150 --> 00:46:16.434
during the sign up process and after the sign up process.

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00:46:16.434 --> 00:46:21.494
So instead of asking again just to repeat what David said, how much am I gonna how much can I make with my website?

614
00:46:21.875 --> 00:46:27.575
It's how many members can I attract, how many people can I compel to sign up, complete their profiles,

615
00:46:27.875 --> 00:46:29.494
follow through with the other services,

616
00:46:29.875 --> 00:46:33.950
that the the portal or the website offers? So this is this is,

617
00:46:34.350 --> 00:46:36.530
goes on to the website owners hands,

618
00:46:37.070 --> 00:46:41.170
to be able to connect with their community and engage their community with those resources.

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So their members and the the website owner gets the most out of the the experience.

620
00:46:45.390 --> 00:46:48.845
So it's it's for it's a benefit the website owner and

621
00:46:49.145 --> 00:46:49.885
their members

622
00:46:50.585 --> 00:46:58.285
that's right and so going along with that another previous tip of the week that we had five tips for attracting new members to your website

623
00:46:58.760 --> 00:47:02.059
Again, we kind of took kind of a more holistic approach

624
00:47:02.359 --> 00:47:07.420
in this tip of the week, not so much focusing on, well, how much money can you make, but discussing

625
00:47:07.880 --> 00:47:12.780
how you can actually create a community atmosphere, how you can get in front of your target audience,

626
00:47:13.355 --> 00:47:14.174
how bringing

627
00:47:14.714 --> 00:47:16.974
influencers into the fold or turning

628
00:47:17.275 --> 00:47:20.414
your most successful or engaged members into

629
00:47:20.875 --> 00:47:23.295
kind of walking advertisements for you,

630
00:47:23.595 --> 00:47:24.575
upsell techniques,

631
00:47:25.290 --> 00:47:26.110
creating relationships,

632
00:47:26.570 --> 00:47:29.550
not only from member to member, but also

633
00:47:29.850 --> 00:47:30.670
you creating

634
00:47:31.130 --> 00:47:37.790
individual relationships with your members so that they know that there's somebody who cares about them and cares about the community behind the scenes.

635
00:47:38.135 --> 00:47:41.015
These are all topics that we discuss in this tip of the week.

636
00:47:41.015 --> 00:47:47.194
So this is a really great presentation that we did that takes kind of that more bird's eye, top level,

637
00:47:47.655 --> 00:47:48.155
holistic

638
00:47:48.535 --> 00:47:50.395
look at, at this question.

639
00:47:51.130 --> 00:47:55.310
Awesome. David, thank you so much for putting these slides together.

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00:47:55.450 --> 00:47:57.850
I think we want to ask you guys a question.

641
00:47:58.570 --> 00:48:07.505
What's one thing you wish you knew, especially for our seasoned BDers, what's one thing you wish you knew when starting your membership community or website?

642
00:48:07.744 --> 00:48:11.525
Maybe you can share one or two things that you've learned during your journey

643
00:48:11.984 --> 00:48:14.165
and along the process about

644
00:48:14.785 --> 00:48:16.964
starting a business, creating your website,

645
00:48:17.550 --> 00:48:20.370
and things like that. I think we've got a couple hands up here.

646
00:48:21.390 --> 00:48:25.710
Steven, let me unmute your microphone. How are you doing, Steven? I'm fine. How are you?

647
00:48:25.710 --> 00:48:27.730
Pretty good. Pretty good. Thanks for joining the webinar.

648
00:48:28.030 --> 00:48:30.830
Thank you for having me. So, yeah, for me, it's,

649
00:48:31.390 --> 00:48:32.770
when I launched my website,

650
00:48:33.494 --> 00:48:35.595
I spent quite a bit on customizations

651
00:48:36.295 --> 00:48:38.795
that now, because my website has evolved,

652
00:48:39.255 --> 00:48:44.154
I'm not even using it anymore. So I guess the thing I would not do is, spend

653
00:48:44.694 --> 00:48:46.430
too much on the customizations

654
00:48:46.810 --> 00:48:49.390
until you, as you mentioned earlier, get feedback.

655
00:48:50.010 --> 00:48:53.070
And because it you know, it may it may evolve in a different direction,

656
00:48:53.450 --> 00:48:54.670
and you may not use them.

657
00:48:54.970 --> 00:48:59.790
That's interesting. So did you think your site needed, like, certain features or certain workflows

658
00:49:00.125 --> 00:49:02.385
for members to want to even wanna use it?

659
00:49:03.085 --> 00:49:06.065
I did. Yeah. And and I think, really, in retrospect,

660
00:49:06.444 --> 00:49:09.184
I didn't get enough feedback to realize that

661
00:49:09.565 --> 00:49:13.825
I didn't need them in the end, or that I was gonna go in a slightly different direction.

662
00:49:14.849 --> 00:49:16.170
So I think I jumped the gun on that.

663
00:49:16.170 --> 00:49:19.910
I think they would attract more members if I had x, y, and z customizations.

664
00:49:21.730 --> 00:49:27.809
And it it may have, but again, my my site shifted a bit. Gotcha. Let me ask you another question.

665
00:49:27.809 --> 00:49:28.630
Do you foresee

666
00:49:29.184 --> 00:49:35.845
any customizations you do wanna execute now that that you have a clear picture of what your members want, or are you done with customization?

667
00:49:36.065 --> 00:49:38.944
No. No. No. No. No. So I'm not done with customizations at all.

668
00:49:38.944 --> 00:49:40.645
In other words, I haven't done it recently,

669
00:49:41.105 --> 00:49:42.085
but I do foresee

670
00:49:42.630 --> 00:49:46.329
I have a better picture of the customizations that I will do now in the future,

671
00:49:46.630 --> 00:49:49.829
and I'm at a place where I believe that they'll have staying power.

672
00:49:49.829 --> 00:49:52.329
In other words, you know, I've sort of evolved a bit,

673
00:49:52.630 --> 00:49:56.805
and I'm at a better place than when I started out in terms of knowing that those customizations

674
00:49:57.265 --> 00:49:59.845
will run the life of the of the site.

675
00:50:00.385 --> 00:50:04.005
That's awesome. That's awesome. Thank you for sharing that, Steven. Thank you.

676
00:50:04.545 --> 00:50:06.325
Good stuff there. Good words of wisdom.

677
00:50:06.785 --> 00:50:09.685
And, we got another hand up here. Our good friend, Vincent.

678
00:50:09.985 --> 00:50:11.845
How's it going? Happy New Year, by the way.

679
00:50:12.200 --> 00:50:14.539
Hey. Hey. I I agree with him,

680
00:50:15.000 --> 00:50:18.940
the last guy. I think that was a big mistake doing any customization

681
00:50:19.319 --> 00:50:22.220
in the beginning. Like, I hardly do any customization now

682
00:50:24.395 --> 00:50:27.454
unless I'm absolutely positive I need to do it.

683
00:50:28.315 --> 00:50:31.135
So I try to use the stock website as much as possible.

684
00:50:32.474 --> 00:50:34.494
But I think the biggest thing I learned

685
00:50:34.875 --> 00:50:35.615
was probably

686
00:50:36.420 --> 00:50:37.160
how important,

687
00:50:37.859 --> 00:50:42.680
you know, whatever website you're gonna build, that you are really interested in that subject

688
00:50:43.380 --> 00:50:45.319
or really interested in that community

689
00:50:46.500 --> 00:50:49.319
or have some sort of knowledge about it because content

690
00:50:50.205 --> 00:50:51.425
is king. Right?

691
00:50:51.885 --> 00:50:57.085
And being able to answer questions and show up in the search results is super, super valuable. I,

692
00:50:58.445 --> 00:51:03.405
I found that out with my first website. I, created a blog post in 02/2017

693
00:51:03.405 --> 00:51:05.430
with my very first website from you guys,

694
00:51:06.069 --> 00:51:08.730
because I was sick of people calling me asking me

695
00:51:09.190 --> 00:51:09.690
why

696
00:51:10.150 --> 00:51:14.170
I'm looking for discontinued auto parts. My first site was a auto parts website.

697
00:51:14.790 --> 00:51:18.069
So people were calling me all the time. Hey. How do I find discontinued auto parts?

698
00:51:18.069 --> 00:51:23.755
So I I made the mistake of creating a blog post about how to find discontinued auto parts

699
00:51:24.295 --> 00:51:29.994
and it hit number one in America for years. It's still finally somebody has beat me.

700
00:51:30.135 --> 00:51:33.115
I'm number two or three in America under the

701
00:51:33.470 --> 00:51:37.410
number you know, if you search under how to find discontinued auto parts in America,

702
00:51:38.029 --> 00:51:41.650
I went from getting, like, five calls a day to getting 50 calls a day.

703
00:51:42.270 --> 00:51:43.890
And it just absolutely

704
00:51:44.190 --> 00:51:45.089
drove me crazy.

705
00:51:45.869 --> 00:51:46.270
But,

706
00:51:47.165 --> 00:51:49.425
so the content is what's king.

707
00:51:49.724 --> 00:51:56.285
Answering questions, writing interesting stuff, getting, you know, updating people's websites for them or their pages.

708
00:51:56.285 --> 00:52:07.039
If if if you want that customer to look like they're part of your plan, just up upgrade their whole program for them, You know, so it looks like there's some major players in your team already and even if they're paying or not paying.

709
00:52:07.039 --> 00:52:07.539
Right?

710
00:52:07.839 --> 00:52:08.079
So,

711
00:52:08.640 --> 00:52:14.740
I think that's that's been the fun part is just sticking with, you know, making sure that you

712
00:52:15.045 --> 00:52:18.825
have the time to take care of that website because it takes a lot of time,

713
00:52:19.285 --> 00:52:20.825
especially when you're building it.

714
00:52:21.365 --> 00:52:23.785
Yeah. So what what Vincent is referring to,

715
00:52:24.165 --> 00:52:25.305
is, you know, he

716
00:52:25.684 --> 00:52:30.580
he he has a wealth of knowledge and he's made his website and himself a beacon of information

717
00:52:31.360 --> 00:52:34.900
for his industry or people seeking out what he knows.

718
00:52:35.280 --> 00:52:37.780
And being that beacon of information will trump

719
00:52:38.320 --> 00:52:39.140
any customizations

720
00:52:39.440 --> 00:52:42.885
you you can do on your site because people know they're in the right place.

721
00:52:42.885 --> 00:52:44.905
I'm I'm assuming your trust,

722
00:52:46.325 --> 00:52:50.085
and authority on the on the subject is is what keeps people coming back, Vincent.

723
00:52:50.085 --> 00:52:55.065
Is that is that what it sounds like? Well, I I found a niche by accident

724
00:52:55.525 --> 00:52:55.685
that,

725
00:52:57.119 --> 00:52:59.539
originally, the site was built for an auto dealership,

726
00:53:00.319 --> 00:53:02.900
who wanted to sell more parts to,

727
00:53:04.720 --> 00:53:10.259
collision repair shops and auto repair shops and other car dealerships and used car dealerships.

728
00:53:10.720 --> 00:53:12.740
But what happened by accident was

729
00:53:13.224 --> 00:53:19.565
people started calling up wanting discontinued parts or hard to find parts or they were retail customers.

730
00:53:19.945 --> 00:53:21.645
They were trying to fix the car themselves.

731
00:53:22.265 --> 00:53:25.085
And it this was completely was a shock for

732
00:53:25.385 --> 00:53:32.280
us and the the company wasn't the company wasn't really interested in selling discontinued auto parts or used parts or aftermarket parts.

733
00:53:32.280 --> 00:53:36.619
They just wanted to sell, at the time, new new parts. They were auto dealership group.

734
00:53:37.400 --> 00:53:40.380
And so here, all of a sudden, I had all these leads.

735
00:53:40.920 --> 00:53:44.954
I didn't know what to do with. I still have all these leads that I don't know what to do with.

736
00:53:44.954 --> 00:53:47.694
But I finally found a group, an auto group that is

737
00:53:47.994 --> 00:53:49.855
is now going ahead and they're gonna,

738
00:53:52.075 --> 00:53:55.435
you know, because people call up and they want Ford parts. They want Chevy parts.

739
00:53:55.435 --> 00:53:58.619
They and the original store only wanted Toyota parts leads.

740
00:53:58.619 --> 00:54:04.320
So I finally got a group, that we're building it right now that wants that has all the brands,

741
00:54:04.700 --> 00:54:07.900
and we're gonna be able to handle any call that comes in. So,

742
00:54:08.460 --> 00:54:13.915
it took a while to find the right client for it. But but it's been good. It's and the shocker was

743
00:54:14.215 --> 00:54:17.435
so I found out that 80% of the traffic to your website

744
00:54:18.295 --> 00:54:23.335
is research. Google found out that 80% of the traffic on the websites is research.

745
00:54:23.335 --> 00:54:25.115
It's not the buying process.

746
00:54:25.500 --> 00:54:26.720
So people are researching

747
00:54:27.340 --> 00:54:27.840
whatever.

748
00:54:28.380 --> 00:54:32.320
And in the process of researching, you wanna link to your page where you're selling stuff.

749
00:54:32.700 --> 00:54:34.300
But so you answer questions.

750
00:54:34.300 --> 00:54:38.160
So now I have software that tells me all the questions about any subject.

751
00:54:38.565 --> 00:54:41.385
I try to every day go in there, pick a pick a subject,

752
00:54:42.325 --> 00:54:43.305
answer the question,

753
00:54:43.845 --> 00:54:46.185
write an answer, and post, and keep posting.

754
00:54:46.805 --> 00:54:51.685
Because I'm more in the lead generation side than the kinda typical membership side.

755
00:54:52.370 --> 00:54:54.210
People that I work for, they want leads.

756
00:54:54.210 --> 00:54:59.170
They want auto parts leads or new car dealership leads or they want pest control leads or whatever.

757
00:54:59.170 --> 00:55:04.470
So I I build lead generation websites primarily, and content really moves the needle

758
00:55:04.850 --> 00:55:05.590
with Google.

759
00:55:06.684 --> 00:55:06.924
Right.

760
00:55:06.924 --> 00:55:14.065
With attracting the consumers, and then they they share their need or what their want, and then you connect them with the professionals on the other side of your marketplace.

761
00:55:14.285 --> 00:55:15.325
Is that the Right. Right.

762
00:55:15.325 --> 00:55:19.900
So I have, like, one person who's getting all the leads from that website primarily.

763
00:55:19.900 --> 00:55:20.700
That's what I want.

764
00:55:20.700 --> 00:55:25.660
I remember your class where you said, do you want, you know, 500 people to pay $25?

765
00:55:25.660 --> 00:55:27.980
Or do you want, you know, this many people to pay a hundred bucks?

766
00:55:27.980 --> 00:55:29.920
Or do you want this guy who pays 5,000?

767
00:55:30.380 --> 00:55:37.974
I realized I want the one guy I want one customer that'll pay the 3,000, 5 thousand a month, and I'm just gonna take care of him

768
00:55:38.595 --> 00:55:39.335
all the time.

769
00:55:39.635 --> 00:55:41.414
And that's kind of my philosophy.

770
00:55:41.714 --> 00:55:45.815
That class was perfect. That was a while ago, but I still remember it very clearly.

771
00:55:46.790 --> 00:55:48.550
Do you remember that? I can share that. Yeah.

772
00:55:48.550 --> 00:55:51.750
I'm gonna I I I'm gonna share that blog article with everyone. It was,

773
00:55:52.630 --> 00:55:56.950
I think the keyword is yeah. Three free formulas to generate $5,000.

774
00:55:56.950 --> 00:55:58.974
Let's see if this comes up here. Here it is.

775
00:55:58.974 --> 00:56:03.935
And so I I I went after I wanna make 5 a thousand, 3 thousand, 2 thousand.

776
00:56:03.935 --> 00:56:06.195
I wanted thousands of dollars per client

777
00:56:06.895 --> 00:56:12.755
and that's what happened is that all my sites now revolve around one client that is paying for those leads.

778
00:56:13.130 --> 00:56:15.310
That's great. That's a great you know what?

779
00:56:15.770 --> 00:56:19.950
I I just learned a lot chatting with you just now. I'm sure a lot of people had a lot of takeaways.

780
00:56:20.890 --> 00:56:28.750
That's a great journey and great that you figured out your niche and you know how you who you wanna work with and how you wanna and what service you wanna provide.

781
00:56:28.785 --> 00:56:31.285
And then more importantly, how to continuously stimulate,

782
00:56:32.065 --> 00:56:33.664
you know, leads coming through.

783
00:56:33.664 --> 00:56:40.565
You're answering questions and in forums and posts and things like that so that that's working for you as your marketing tool, it sounds like.

784
00:56:41.025 --> 00:56:45.390
Right. And then a little bit of AdWords because you have to feed the beast, you know, Google.

785
00:56:45.930 --> 00:56:48.650
Sure. Sure. Sure. Well, thank you, Vincent, for sharing that story with us.

786
00:56:48.650 --> 00:56:52.490
It was really It's a good time for you again. Yeah. Yeah. I'll chat with you later this year.

787
00:56:52.490 --> 00:56:53.630
Cheers. Bye bye.

788
00:56:54.090 --> 00:56:58.110
Alright. Good stuff there from Vincent. I think we got one more, hand up here.

789
00:56:58.490 --> 00:56:59.310
Let me see.

790
00:56:59.915 --> 00:57:03.835
Yep. We got our friend, Ryan here. How's it going? Hey. Great. Thanks, Jason.

791
00:57:03.835 --> 00:57:07.855
How are you doing today? Good. Good. Good. So What's one thing you wish you knew?

792
00:57:08.234 --> 00:57:08.474
Yeah.

793
00:57:08.474 --> 00:57:15.530
So this one there's a couple parts to this, but I'll make the the simple thing is that that I think a lot of people have inside the directory.

794
00:57:15.670 --> 00:57:19.290
They ask themselves about you and the company. Is is BD worth it?

795
00:57:19.830 --> 00:57:22.570
And so I wish I knew when I started to

796
00:57:22.870 --> 00:57:24.470
to know that the answer is yes.

797
00:57:24.470 --> 00:57:30.835
And so I I I turn this in sense of, several things that I think that people go through when they look at directories.

798
00:57:30.835 --> 00:57:35.795
Like, the first one is, a lot of times, they don't know if if your software is gonna work for their niche.

799
00:57:35.795 --> 00:57:37.815
Right? And we just heard a couple examples,

800
00:57:38.595 --> 00:57:43.095
across the board where there's always so many different varied business models and niches or whatever.

801
00:57:43.395 --> 00:57:47.130
And so, you know, I wish that they knew that BD can do that. Right?

802
00:57:47.130 --> 00:57:48.650
You can do anything under the sun.

803
00:57:48.650 --> 00:57:53.790
Any any niche that you want that you're listening to or think about for your business, you guys can do.

804
00:57:54.090 --> 00:57:57.530
And then the other one that always comes up with BD is like, hey.

805
00:57:57.530 --> 00:57:59.770
I don't know if BD is the right design for me. Right?

806
00:57:59.770 --> 00:58:03.605
There's the themes are there's a lot of themes, but I don't know if it's the right design.

807
00:58:04.305 --> 00:58:10.645
And we've seen, you know, many, many instances of the BD sites even out of the box with zero

808
00:58:11.185 --> 00:58:11.685
design,

809
00:58:12.305 --> 00:58:16.485
you know, efforts or whatever making, you know, 6 figures a year.

810
00:58:16.740 --> 00:58:22.520
We've seen, you know, Corey's, when we started with this site, it's just out of the box stuff, but it's because he's running the business,

811
00:58:23.460 --> 00:58:28.180
you know, and actually doing stuff. They're making, you know, a lot of money on the service.

812
00:58:28.180 --> 00:58:29.000
So the design

813
00:58:29.305 --> 00:58:35.005
is is good enough, right, for you, and then you can always, you know, flex from there as you go as we've as we've heard.

814
00:58:35.625 --> 00:58:39.405
People always ask is BD, you know, does it have enough features for me? Right?

815
00:58:39.945 --> 00:58:45.050
And you guys have pumped out, and, you know, you guys always do it every year, 1,500, I think,

816
00:58:45.350 --> 00:58:47.690
you know, feature add ons last year.

817
00:58:48.310 --> 00:58:54.730
And even looking back at the the system, like, a year ago or two years ago, it's not even recognizable because you guys

818
00:58:55.030 --> 00:58:57.765
add so much effort and feature development that,

819
00:58:58.164 --> 00:59:01.285
if it doesn't have all the features you want now, it's going to. Right?

820
00:59:01.285 --> 00:59:04.805
Because you guys keep pumping it out, and we appreciate that. And then the,

821
00:59:05.365 --> 00:59:09.065
and then the two other thing two last things that come to my mind is the future capabilities.

822
00:59:09.125 --> 00:59:11.819
Everybody wonders, hey. Is it gonna grow with me?

823
00:59:11.819 --> 00:59:17.240
Does BD good enough for me to, you know, launch my business on, now and or into the future?

824
00:59:17.859 --> 00:59:23.800
And the answer is yes because it's one of the only platforms that, you know, you can get in the code and change anything.

825
00:59:24.474 --> 00:59:26.815
You can add plugins. It's totally flexible.

826
00:59:27.115 --> 00:59:29.595
It is not sterile like some of the other sites out there.

827
00:59:29.595 --> 00:59:34.494
You can you can make and design and build it to whatever you guys want, and so it's future proof.

828
00:59:34.635 --> 00:59:35.615
And then the last

829
00:59:35.915 --> 00:59:38.974
the last thing I I think everybody always thinks about is, hey.

830
00:59:39.380 --> 00:59:40.500
Is the support good enough?

831
00:59:40.500 --> 00:59:45.700
Am I gonna just kind of launch out on a limb here, rely my entire business on a a model?

832
00:59:45.700 --> 00:59:50.580
And I don't know that they're you know, the support's gonna be there, and and you guys have the best support.

833
00:59:50.580 --> 00:59:52.200
I think everybody here would agree,

834
00:59:52.895 --> 00:59:53.555
out there

835
00:59:54.015 --> 00:59:54.595
of timeliness,

836
00:59:55.214 --> 00:59:55.875
a completeness,

837
00:59:56.494 --> 01:00:01.315
and just general community support both through the Facebook and your entire team there,

838
01:00:01.935 --> 01:00:05.855
that that just, you know, ties the bow on support that no other system does.

839
01:00:05.855 --> 01:00:12.569
So the so my my I know it's a multiparty answer, but I guess the the answer is what the question in their mind, is BD

840
01:00:13.269 --> 01:00:13.829
worth it?

841
01:00:13.829 --> 01:00:18.869
And and so that that's the the thing I wish I would've known, and hopefully everybody else realizes that you guys are.

842
01:00:18.869 --> 01:00:21.915
So Thank you. Thank you. Everything you guys do.

843
01:00:22.315 --> 01:00:23.435
Likewise. Likewise, Ryan.

844
01:00:23.435 --> 01:00:27.595
You're you're an all star in the community, so thank you, for sharing that with us. Yeah.

845
01:00:27.595 --> 01:00:29.595
BD BD does do a lot,

846
01:00:30.235 --> 01:00:37.400
and I think that goes back to to Steven's point and Vincent's point is and the the fact we were talking about minimal viable product.

847
01:00:37.619 --> 01:00:40.760
I think there's enough baked in so that you can quickly

848
01:00:41.380 --> 01:00:45.320
succeed or quickly fail. There's there's a benefit to quickly failing.

849
01:00:45.859 --> 01:00:48.305
That there's a saying fail fast. Right?

850
01:00:48.305 --> 01:00:52.865
Because you don't wanna waste all your time and money just to learn that something's not gonna work out.

851
01:00:52.865 --> 01:00:53.605
And I think

852
01:00:54.065 --> 01:00:58.405
personally, as the cofounder of BD, I think that's the one competitive advantage

853
01:00:58.785 --> 01:01:03.700
users of BD have when they when they launch their site with BD is you can fail quickly.

854
01:01:03.700 --> 01:01:05.799
I mean, let's be honest, not every idea

855
01:01:06.099 --> 01:01:08.440
is gonna take off and and shoot to the moon.

856
01:01:08.740 --> 01:01:13.299
But if we could find out quickly, then yeah, we've saved ourselves a bunch of time and money.

857
01:01:13.299 --> 01:01:14.839
And to the point about design,

858
01:01:15.665 --> 01:01:20.325
there are some ugly websites out there. Who has used Craigslist in their lifetime?

859
01:01:21.425 --> 01:01:24.645
It's clunky. It's there's it's really just

860
01:01:24.945 --> 01:01:26.545
the most basic website in the world.

861
01:01:26.545 --> 01:01:32.420
But goes back to the point of if you can compel people that there's gold at the end of the rainbow for using

862
01:01:32.720 --> 01:01:34.260
the service or the website,

863
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people will click as many times as they have to to figure out how to get that gold at the end of the rainbow.

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You just have to let them know what the value is that they're gonna get when they reach the finish line.

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So I think that there's one takeaway here. It's minimal viable product.

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Get your on your your solution online quickly. Figure out how to compel people

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to

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sign up to your site, use your site, figure out how to provide value if value is missing, call people who cancel, try to connect with people before the sign up process to figure out,

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why they're not signing up or what they wanna see in order to sign up.

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And that's gonna help

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you succeed quickly, fail fast, whatever it is, but you're gonna get to an end result much faster without wasting your time and money.

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And lots of us, many of us have multiple ideas so that's another thing the platform is good for and you know as Vincent was saying, he is servicing different industries like pest control,

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auto parts, and some other things. And once you figure out a formula for

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running a membership site, you can replicate that in different markets, different verticals, different industries,

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and just repeat that process.

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So I really appreciate everyone who's shared their insight with us today.

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I do notice that we are a bit over time so I am going to end it there.

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But I know we didn't get to Q and A today guys. We just ran out of time a little bit over time.

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If you do have questions,

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we'll be manning the the Facebook group. You can go to brilliantdirectories.com

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forward /facebook.

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Go ahead and join that group.

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Ask your questions in there, and the next webinar will be in two weeks.

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So on behalf of myself, David, and the entire Brilliant Directories family, thank you guys so much.

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The first webinar of 2022.

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It's been lots of fun, and we'll see you guys in two weeks. Have a great day and a brilliant week.

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Take care, guys.

