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What is 12 year old Jana in that room on that day? What does she need to hear from you right now?

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That everything

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is going to be more magical than you can even imagine. What a precious girl.

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Oh. So is it true that you're not safe? Not now.

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It's not true anymore. Was it true then that you were not safe? Yeah. To some extent.

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What I'd invite you to consider is who is the you in the

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sentence? You as the human you will never be safe here on this planet. It's just not hope. Yes.

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Like none of us are. Right? Shit can happen.

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We can walk on the sidewalk and be hit by a fucking little truck or whatever.

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That sold you Yeah. To never be harmed. Yes.

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She comes home. I'll hope in the shield just pass out and then I can leave. My home was not safe.

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What fucking miracle you are. Even believing in a different possibility

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Yeah. Is fucking huge. Like, who does that? Most people don't. You chose something different.

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What a fucking miracle. Welcome to the show. Everybody?

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I got Jenna Big Energy with me here today, and I'm gonna coach her on her business.

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I don't know what her business is. I don't know anything yet, but we will see

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what it is and where this conversation goes. Welcome, Jenna. I'm glad to be here.

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Thanks for having me, Calvin. Appreciate it. Appreciate it.

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Yeah. So tell me about yourself. Words

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what do you do? What business are you in? Where are you at? What would you like to be?

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How can I help?

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Okay.

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So I guess just a well rounded thing about me.

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Obviously, my name, Jenna Big Energy.

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I am obsessed with everything energy

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and,

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I guess, identity.

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So I found it When did you say energy and what? An identity.

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And identity. Okay. Identity. Yeah.

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So a lot of people I mean, it is kind of starting to be talked about a lot more on social media now,

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but identity work is something that's like it's just one of those things, like, people just always used to kinda call it mindset.

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You know, like, mindset was like the term. Right? Like, oh, I'm Yeah. You know,

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whatever. But identity is like a very specific piece of that in terms of,

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like, your true deep rooted beliefs that are inside of you that have been there from childhood and just like your environment and the people that you've surrounded yourself with and just what you've been programmed.

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Right?

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And we don't even know that these beliefs are there because it's just always how we've operated.

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It's our identity. Right? And there's so many facets

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to that.

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And,

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so once you start kind of becoming aware of these identities that are there and they're it's all just stories.

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Like, that's all it is. Right?

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Our identity is just a story that we've been programmed to believe through our

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life and experiences and our lens that we've, you know, been shown.

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So it's really, really cool work. So, like, that's kind of what I specialize in,

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and energy is just a piece of that because,

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I mean,

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energetics is everything. We are energy. Everything is energy.

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So it just goes hand in hand really beautifully.

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So, yeah, that's kind of a little bit about me, and I started

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through my own journey of, like, exploration

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and, like, uncovering all these identities and whatnot. I started,

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I guess, coaching. I don't really like to call myself a coach, though.

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That's, like, a big thing because I I feel like it puts me above other people.

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Like, you know that term where it's like, I know more than you, and it's like, I don't like that because we are all actually divine

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divinely connected through energy.

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So I actually kind of like to consider myself just like a a trend a transmitter or like a transmission.

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So it's like the energy comes through me, the messages, the lessons, all of the things come through me, and then I spread them and share them and, you know, share them with the world.

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So, yeah, about two years ago, I kind of officially made it a thing,

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a business,

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because I realized that I was doing it anyways. I was

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literally working with people in my other business.

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So I've been in, like, corrective skin and stuff like that for a long time.

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So through my other business, I worked with a lot of clients and a lot of different people. Right?

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And I realized that every single day, I was

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talking and helping people work through all of this stuff, but I just wasn't getting paid for it.

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So I was like, what am I doing?

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Yeah. Yeah. Amazing. And so where are you at in your business and and where would you like to be?

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So,

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I guess, like, I would say it's still, like, baby stages because I have like, I dream big and I have big like, I set big goals.

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So, like, for me, it's at baby stages. Somebody else might look at it and be like, no. It's not.

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But,

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so I started

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two years ago just kind of doing, like, just casual one on ones with people, and then that kind of phased into,

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like, packages.

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And then now I actually recently, in the last six months, have launched a community.

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So the community is really, like, close to my heart.

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It's kind of been what I've been, like, searching for

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I found that the one on ones

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like, I love the intimacy of it, but it's just, a, not attainable for everybody, not just financially, but just, like,

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commitment wise and capacity wise.

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Like, not everybody has the capacity to, like, every month dive deep, like, you know, for, like, six months or a year or whatever.

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Right? Mhmm.

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So I found that the one on one was just kinda limiting a lot of people getting access to this work and me and whatnot.

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So,

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so, yeah, I formulated a community, and I do, like, one live,

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really specific.

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I you teach on one specific thing.

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And then if you're in the community, you get access to all of the replays.

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You get access to me, all of these things. So that's I want to So the live is

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so the live is not just for the members of the community? Live is for everybody? And then

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No. The live, you have to be a you have to be a member. Okay. Yeah. You have to be a member

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to get access to the live, but you get access to it as a replay after.

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Because not everybody can make live calls. Right? So it just lives in the library.

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So you get both live and the replay. Okay. And what is the what's the price point in the community?

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44 a month. 44 a month. And how many members do you have?

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83, something like that. Okay. Cool.

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Yeah. And how did you get those?

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Honestly, just through network. Like, my network of people,

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just other business. Like, I'm just very like I said, I have a whole other business as well.

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So I just, like yeah. Just network of of people and

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socials and stuff like that. So yeah.

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That's amazing. Okay.

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So is that where you're at and or is there more?

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So that's where things are currently at.

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My goal is, like, I wanna grow that community to a thousand members. Like, that's my goal right now.

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Mhmm.

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Nice. Okay.

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So a thousand members on the community.

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And and what else? Do you have anything else in mind, or do you have

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any other products right

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now? Do you do Yeah. I do. Yeah. I definitely have, so I have, like, intro.

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So for anybody that, like, you know, isn't ready to, like, dive into the community or the coaching or whatever,

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I do have resources.

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So I have kind of a library full of them just depending on, like, you know, for example,

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I have, a resource that kind of breaks down, like, if one of your, identity things that you're wanting to work on is your money stories.

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You know? So I have a whole kind of resource that kind of is a very, like, intro to, like, okay.

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This is where you

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depends on so that one is paid. I only have, I think, two free resources.

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One's like an energy,

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like, get your energy back to, like, center Mhmm.

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Resource. And then what is the other free one?

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I have the frequency fix, which is that one, and there's one more.

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I can't remember what the other one is that's free.

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Got it. I've yeah.

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I have two free, and then I probably have, like, eight or 10 just like you know, they're just small small,

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ticket items, but they're a resource that I've already created. $50 kinda thing? Or Like, yeah.

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20, 30. Exactly. Yeah. 100%.

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Cool. Alright. So what's your

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what's your big

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so a thousand members, I get that. Like, what's the what's the big

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calling with this business

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if you have one?

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Like, honestly, it's it's just like like I said, just like taking everything that, like, comes through me and everything that I continue to learn and have learned and, like, helping other people transform.

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Like, that's, like,

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that's what, like, that's what it is. That's what drives me.

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I just, like every single time I have a client that, you know, messages me and they're like, oh my god.

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I applied this and then, you know, I couldn't believe how much of a difference it makes.

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Like, it just

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you know, it it lights me up inside. I'm like, yes.

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Like, I'm so passionate about the work because I've watched myself transform

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and I've watched other people transform.

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And now it's like every single client, you know, whether it's a tiny little it seems like a tiny little transformation, but those tiny transformations compound,

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which is really cool.

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Sweet. Who's your dream client?

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My dream client is so,

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like, my ICP

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is essentially we actually have her named. Her name's Mara.

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she is,

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you know, a woman that is, like,

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on the journey but doesn't really know. Like, you know, like, she watches the Instagram stories.

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She does all these things. Like, she Mhmm.

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She she takes in all this information, but she's like, I don't know how

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to use it. I don't know how to implement it. Like, I don't know what that means. You know?

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And, like, she she has the drive to know that, like, okay. Some things in my life are not adding up.

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I know that, like, I things need to change, but I don't know I don't know how to do that.

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Like, I'm a little lost. You know? Mhmm. And I need direction and and whatnot. And,

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she's the type of woman that, like, can be called up, not necessarily, you know, called out in the sense that, like, you're doing things wrong and this and that because that's not my style.

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I I wanna activate you. I wanna activate you to

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see your power and know that, like,

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it's not you. It's not that anything's wrong with you.

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It's just that you actually have been programmed

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Mhmm. To do things, you know, one way for so long, but we can rewrite that book.

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We can rewrite that story. Right? Alright. Cool. That's great. I love it.

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And is she Mara, is she does she have is she a mom? Is she is she married? Is she single?

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Is she like, where is she at in her on the life journey?

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Honestly, there is kind of a a few different facets to Mara

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because,

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identity work is like, it is kind of widespread in the sense that, like,

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just because you're, like, a mom doesn't mean that you can't want more or just because you're you know, the main theme with Mara is that whether you're a mom, whether you're a career professional,

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whether you're an entrepreneur, whether you like, you know,

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you have the drive

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know that, like, something's off.

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Like, something's off with your identity, whether it's your money stories, whether it's your self worth stories, whether it's your self trust, whether it's, like, your relationships in your life.

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Like, there's, you know, five or six key components that it's like, okay.

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That, like, things aren't like, I'm not feeling

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like I'm in, you know, where I should be. Like, I know there's more. I know you know?

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And so that's kind of that's Mara as a core. So her Mhmm.

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Her identity in terms of whether she's a mom or, like, what exactly her career looks like isn't exactly specific

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Mara can be a

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Is she an entrepreneur? Is she, like, a Fortune five hundred CEO? Is she she a business owner?

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Is she a homemaker? Is she, like or just all over the board?

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She can be, like, homeless on the stream stream? Well, I wouldn't know.

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On YouTube or is she I would say there's, like, a middle ground to you know, she's either an entrepreneur

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or she's a career professional,

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or she's like a like a working mom.

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Mhmm. Like, those three are kind of, like, the key key components. Like, you know?

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Again, it's not necessarily her

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her career or what like, who she's working

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or how she's working. It's it's her

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drive and desire to

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know that she wants more out of life. And so

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you know what I mean?

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Her having kids doesn't make a difference.

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my ICP is very specific in terms of her,

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where she's at with her identity and things like that, but it's not very specific in terms of, like, okay.

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Does she work for a Fortune 500 company? No. Because Right. That's not you know? I help women of

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all types of careers. So Okay. Alright.

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And you find that that that that that is the audience that you're attracting?

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Like, that's how it works in out in practice?

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Yeah. Yeah. Totally. That's that's yeah. Definitely,

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definitely as

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as I've been, like, finessing my content and things like that too, it's like, yeah, that's definitely it's the type of women that are drawn to me.

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100%.

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Yeah. Awesome.

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So, yeah, what how can I help? Like, what what made you wanna have this conversation?

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Honestly, I literally lead with my intuition. This is literally what I do.

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So I received the email, and it was like, oh, hey. You wanna go on to Kelvin's?

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It was like, Kelvin's looking for people on his podcast. And I was like, cool.

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I, like, I love the platform, Simplero.

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I've, you know, watched some of your videos sometimes, and I love, like, how, you know, you started this business and how you, you know, started it from your own passion and your own need to, like, find that solution

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for not only yourself, but everybody else.

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And I was like,

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I don't know. I feel called to send an email, so I did. So here we are. Amazing. Here we are.

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And so great. Yes. So, yeah, what's what's been the challenge? What's been the struggle?

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What has been the challenge?

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for myself, like, I had to work through, like, some visibility issues, you know, some visibility

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identity.

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yeah. I don't like, I don't know. That's a hard question for me. I don't I really don't know.

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I don't know how to answer that.

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I don't know what the challenge has been because I feel like every step that if if there has been a challenge, it's like you you figure it out.

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Like, I don't I don't know how to answer that.

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Mhmm.

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Yeah. So I don't know if you're like, how can I help? I'm like, I I don't really

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so you want a thousand members. If you had a thousand members, that would make you

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Yeah. Just on that one offer. Yeah.

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I guess I guess one thing that just comes to mind is, like, okay.

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So as I grow, like, my RFW it's called Rich from Within, so I call it RFW.

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right now, I've kind of starting to been thinking about, like, okay. So

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how can I expand this community to, like, not not necessarily, like,

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make it, like like, I want it to be very simple for people?

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Like, I don't want it to be this, like, huge thing that there's, like, all of these, like, overwhelming things that they have to do or that they have to find or whatever.

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I like simplicity because that's what I find that people function best with,

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and the price point reflects that.

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But I do wanna make sure that, like so for example, I've had people constantly asking me about, like, okay.

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So when it comes to, like, my frequency, like,

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when you listen to these, blah blah blah. So I was like, okay. I had an idea.

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I was like, maybe I should create, like, a frequency

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library within my community. You know?

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So, like, things like that where it's like I'm getting these questions all the time anyways.

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So I could create, like, a re resource hub or, like, have a link to a Google Drive or, like, however I wanna create it or just, like, have it inside some Plural where I have the

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the things or whatever. But

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I'm like, how can I expand this community so that it's not,

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a ton more impact on me in terms of, like, I'm not putting in fifty more hours a week into this thing, but also creating more impact for the people that are in the community?

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You know? Mhmm. So I guess that could be a question for you.

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Like, what have you found with, you know, other people using Simplero and stuff like that?

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How have they expanded their communities in a way that

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isn't overwhelming for them but provides impact for their people. Okay.

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Got it. Yeah. So let me let me actually let me go back to something you said at the beginning.

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The the thing about, like, coaching

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the word coaching and being above others and the transmission in that piece. Mhmm.

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Because there's something there where where

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there might be an opportunity there just to

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about that in a slightly different way

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like, you may think about, like, you know, Tiger Woods, the golfer.

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I'm pretty sure Tiger has a coach.

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Yep. Yep. Right. Yeah. Is Tiger's coach Yep. Does Tiger's coach is is he a better golfer than Tiger?

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Is he does he has he won more than golfer than Tiger? Is he, like, better better than Tiger?

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Like Yeah. Not necessarily. Right?

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But he has a has a certain set of skills that are useful to Tiger.

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He also has the advantage that he's not Tiger. He's not inside Tiger's body, like, doing the swing.

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Right? So he has a different perspective

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that that adds value.

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also, this is something that I heard Tony Robbins said that that I I took to heart, which is, like

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like, he Tony Tony said I wanted to his events. I've heard him say it multiple times.

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It's like, I'm not superior to you as a person, like, as a being,

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but I'm superior to you in certain areas, just like you're superior to me in certain other areas.

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Like, each of the person people in this room are superior to me in some area.

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Like and I'm gonna be superior to you in some areas. Like, that's that's just normal.

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That's just how it is.

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So there's no we don't need to have any hang ups about making ourselves better or worse than any anybody else or, like, whatever.

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It's just like

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this is the container. This is the relationship that we're in right now.

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Like, just like here, like, you're far superior to me in so many areas.

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I'm really superior to other areas.

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And, like but the just the the nature of the of the container right now here is that you're in my container, and then my container is, like, how can I serve you?

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So that's just the dynamic that we're in. It doesn't mean that anyone's better than anyone else.

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Yeah. No. I like that I like that take on it because it is it is very true.

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And I think about what like, I'm

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you know, like, coaches need coaches too, and I'm not I'm the first one to be, like, you know, for the last six years, I've had nothing but coaches.

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And Right. It is what has helped me get to this point.

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Mhmm.

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And that is part of the reason why I do what I do also is because I wanna be the person I truly needed six years ago, two years ago, four years ago.

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Right? What happened? What how did you get into this business?

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It literally was from my own journey. Like, it literally so I went through It was a journey. Yes.

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Mhmm. So I went through,

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well, prior to going through, like, a divorce and a separation,

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I, like, I had a lot of childhood trauma that was unhealed,

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unresolved.

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I just kept pushing back, pushing back, pushing back. But I knew that

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I needed to leave the marriage, and I knew that to be able to leave the marriage, I had to do the work.

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Because if I didn't, I wouldn't have been able to leave the marriage.

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So I started by going to counseling, and then

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trickled me into energy work

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and studying energy and the law of energetics and how energy works. And then energy work

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trickled me and introduced me to identity

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work. Mhmm. And then

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it's just been the catalyst. Yeah.

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So if you don't mind, can we go a little bit more granular on that?

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So from curious first off of, like, what does energy work mean to you? Like, what what yeah.

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What kind of energy work are you doing? So, essentially, using the law of energetics

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in your everyday of energetics?

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I don't know. So the law of energetics states? Energy yeah. No. For sure. The law of energy states.

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And and so everything,

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to do with energy work is all proven. Like, it's all science based.

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It's all like, Newton's law of energy.

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Like, he this is literally, like, fucking e e equals m c squared or whatever.

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All of it's been scientifically proven. It's not woo woo. It's all near like, neuroscience

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scientifically

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proven. But the law of energy

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or vibration, some people call it law of vibration,

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essentially states that everything is energy.

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So if you if you take, like, take the view on the microscope back and we are all just

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atoms vibrating at a really high speed,

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everything around us, everything in us, everything is energy. Whether it's

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a laptop, a cup, us as humans,

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we're all energy.

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Right?

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And we are obviously because we're made up What is the law what is the law of energetic says say exactly?

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Yeah. So so there's actually,

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universal laws that our world actually revolves around,

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that people have no idea. It's like gravity. So gravity is technically a law.

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It just it just exists. Right? Like, we don't question gravity.

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Gravity just, like, we know that, like, if I'm gonna drop this pen, the the pen's gonna drop.

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Like, we don't question that. Right? So there's multiple laws. The law of energy is one of them.

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You know, law of gestation, law of

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cause and effect, all of these things.

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Like, I could go on for days about this stuff, but these are all just, like, principles of life that operate Can I can I can I pause it?

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So if I so if I were

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to say,

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like, what is it?

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Newton's second law or whatever that says, like, every for every action, there's an equal reaction to the cause and effect.

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That's the law of cause and effect. So Yeah.

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So if you were to say in in a sim similarly simple way, what is the law of I forget if you called it the law of energy or the law of energetics.

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Is there a simple phrase like that? You can call you can literally, it's just energy.

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You can just literally call it energy.

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They just they they call them they've taken the principles of life, and they've made them universal.

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Here. Here. Let's slow down here. Who's they?

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Neuroscience.

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So, like, people that have studied,

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like, the fundamentals of neuroscience

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and, like, the principles of like, literally, it's it this is all just I don't know who they are.

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I honestly couldn't give you a name. I don't know. Okay.

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It's just all I know is that it's all proven.

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Okay.

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Okay?

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Okay. Okay. But enter the law of energy is just the basic principle of energy.

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So it's literally just saying that So the law of energy basically says everything is energy.

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That's the law. Everything's energy. Everything's everything's energy

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and pardon?

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That's the law. It's that's that's the entirety of the law. It's like, everything That's the law.

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Everything's okay. Energy and everything vibrates, and we are all we are all energetic beings.

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Okay.

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So, essentially, it's just saying that if you're an energetic being, if that's a person that So I'm I'm a 100% on board with all those things.

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I've just never heard, like, the law of energy before. So that's Yeah.

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That's new new vernacular to me.

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Yeah.

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So so but tell me, like, in more practical terms, like, how does this how do you work with it?

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How does it apply?

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Like, what do I do?

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So it's just essentially, it comes from an understanding.

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So once you understand

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these principles of life it's like understanding gravity.

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Like, say you'd never heard of gravity before. Say you'd you'd right?

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Like, you were an alien that came to Earth and you never understood gravity before,

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and somebody was like and you were like, well, why am I, like, always just planted on the ground?

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Why can't I float in the air?

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And then somebody was like, well, it's because of gravity.

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And you and, you know, that you as an alien are like, well, I don't get it. Like like, why?

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And you're like, well, that's just how it works on planet Earth. Like, we have gravity,

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and so you're always planted on the ground.

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essentially, that's the same principle

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to every other,

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universal law that it's called.

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And, like, I really encourage you to, like, go do some research if you want or come into my community and learn about all of this stuff.

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So you become aware.

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Once you become aware and you're like,

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okay.

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I understand now that, like, okay. So everything is energy. So it's like when you walk into a room.

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So now that you understand

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okay. Everything's energy. She's energy. I have energy. This cup's Let me start with you for a sec.

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So

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I I'm I'm very familiar with the world of energy. What I'm trying to get is Jenna's world of energy.

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Right?

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So I'm trying to get, like, exactly what what what how you you work with it, like your version of it.

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Does that make sense? That's what I'm looking for. Yes. I know.

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And I'm I'm trying to explain that, but it's kind of hard because it it like, what I'm saying is it starts with awareness.

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Yeah. So that's how so how I teach is I start by creating awareness because that's the first thing.

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If your floor was never dirty, you would never clean it.

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If you never seen crumbs on the floor, you'd never clean your floor because you don't have awareness around it.

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If your car never looked dirty, you'd never clean it. Right? Got it. So we need to become aware.

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Ask you.

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So yeah. So okay.

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So I just wanted to, like, like, because, like, people like, I've you know, in terms of energy,

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you know, there's, like, the Joe Dispenza's, and there's, like, the Donnie Epstein's, and there's the the what is, like, the Abraham Hicks, and, like, there's a lot of, like

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Yeah. So they all they all study the they all study neuroscience and the laws of the universe.

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All of them. So what I'm what I'm trying to get is, like, Jenna's, like, angle to it. So,

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or, like, where yeah. How do you look at it? That's what I'm trying to to to suss out here.

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But that if you don't mind, let's let's dive into the journey a little bit more.

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So, like, what happened? What was what was it with the divorce?

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What was what was what did you need to

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00:27:15.465 --> 00:27:16.205
to overcome

442
00:27:16.905 --> 00:27:19.485
or to shift in order to be able to do that?

443
00:27:21.065 --> 00:27:23.465
Well, I'll just give you a perfect example.

444
00:27:23.465 --> 00:27:27.610
Like, I'll just give you one example of one of my identities that I became aware of

445
00:27:27.990 --> 00:27:33.510
that I was like, oh, I actually don't I don't wanna believe that or I don't truly believe that.

446
00:27:33.510 --> 00:27:36.090
I've just been programmed to believe that. So,

447
00:27:36.470 --> 00:27:37.290
for example,

448
00:27:38.105 --> 00:27:39.805
I had an identity where,

449
00:27:40.105 --> 00:27:41.385
like, I have to work

450
00:27:41.945 --> 00:27:46.845
like, I have to work extremely, extremely hard and, like, burn out to become successful.

451
00:27:47.625 --> 00:27:49.405
Mhmm. That was my story.

452
00:27:49.960 --> 00:27:54.220
Mhmm. If I'm not working a hundred hours a week, if I'm not grinding to exhaustion,

453
00:27:54.680 --> 00:27:56.940
blah blah blah, I will not become successful.

454
00:27:57.480 --> 00:27:59.660
That was my story. K? Mhmm.

455
00:27:59.960 --> 00:28:01.500
So I had to rewrite that.

456
00:28:01.640 --> 00:28:11.425
I had to realize that, like, oh, that's a fucking story that has been programmed to me into me since I was young and that I just chose to believe over and over again.

457
00:28:11.565 --> 00:28:15.570
And so guess what? My reality is going to picture back to me.

458
00:28:15.730 --> 00:28:21.490
Because everything from in here is what is actually out here. It has nothing to do with out here.

459
00:28:21.490 --> 00:28:24.870
It's all in here. We're a mirror. All we are is a walking mirror.

460
00:28:25.409 --> 00:28:25.909
Mhmm.

461
00:28:26.610 --> 00:28:29.190
So I had to realize, like, oh, that was a story.

462
00:28:29.554 --> 00:28:33.095
Okay. So then I reverse engineered it. And I'm like, okay.

463
00:28:33.475 --> 00:28:38.375
Baby steps. I'm like, okay. How about I, like, you know, don't work as many hours a week.

464
00:28:38.434 --> 00:28:40.835
You know, do this, do that, and see what happens.

465
00:28:40.835 --> 00:28:44.934
And then these, like, little things, it's like, oh, I still made the same amount of money, but I worked

466
00:28:45.289 --> 00:28:46.190
five less hours.

467
00:28:46.890 --> 00:28:47.390
Oh,

468
00:28:47.850 --> 00:28:52.750
okay. So now it solidifies us. That new story that I'm creating. Right? It creates the proof.

469
00:28:53.130 --> 00:28:53.630
Right?

470
00:28:54.090 --> 00:28:54.830
And so

471
00:28:55.130 --> 00:28:56.990
that's identity work at its finest.

472
00:28:57.485 --> 00:28:59.965
There's and there's, like, literally a million things.

473
00:28:59.965 --> 00:29:02.225
Like, I give you a million examples around money,

474
00:29:02.525 --> 00:29:03.505
around relationships,

475
00:29:04.205 --> 00:29:08.545
around everything. Like, I had stories around, like, I wasn't worthy of safe love.

476
00:29:08.765 --> 00:29:11.345
I had stories around poverty money mindset.

477
00:29:11.740 --> 00:29:15.740
I had stories around just, like, so many things Mhmm.

478
00:29:16.140 --> 00:29:17.440
That I had to, like,

479
00:29:17.740 --> 00:29:19.519
a, become aware of

480
00:29:19.980 --> 00:29:20.419
Mhmm.

481
00:29:20.860 --> 00:29:22.559
B, then begin to

482
00:29:23.260 --> 00:29:29.585
write a new story and then take baby steps to create the new story in my external life. Mhmm.

483
00:29:29.965 --> 00:29:30.465
Right?

484
00:29:31.325 --> 00:29:34.465
So energy is just a catalyst to the identity.

485
00:29:35.085 --> 00:29:38.705
So I use I help people rewrite their identities

486
00:29:39.420 --> 00:29:44.380
by teaching them also about how energy works, how the laws of the universe work.

487
00:29:44.380 --> 00:29:49.440
Because what those help with is they make the other stuff make more sense.

488
00:29:49.980 --> 00:29:50.940
Mhmm. So, like

489
00:29:51.934 --> 00:29:55.135
Yeah. So somebody's like, why is this so hard? Like, blah blah blah.

490
00:29:55.135 --> 00:29:57.794
And then you teach them about the law of relativity

491
00:29:58.174 --> 00:30:03.315
and how nothing has a meaning until you give it a meaning. So I'm like, why is that hard?

492
00:30:03.775 --> 00:30:07.110
Mhmm. Well, because it well, because it caused me discomfort. I'm like, k.

493
00:30:07.110 --> 00:30:08.810
So is it hard or is it uncomfortable?

494
00:30:09.190 --> 00:30:10.810
You labeled it as hard.

495
00:30:11.270 --> 00:30:12.410
Mhmm. And then they're like,

496
00:30:12.790 --> 00:30:13.290
what?

497
00:30:14.150 --> 00:30:18.470
Mhmm. Oh, I'm like, yeah. How how about you just label it as neutral?

498
00:30:18.470 --> 00:30:24.044
How about you just view it as something that just happened, and it doesn't need to be hard or easy or anything.

499
00:30:24.044 --> 00:30:26.205
It can just be like, it is what it is.

500
00:30:26.205 --> 00:30:29.825
You can take the power away from it and choose to view it as neutrality.

501
00:30:30.525 --> 00:30:35.265
And then Mhmm. It doesn't feel so bad, does it? Or, like, change the verbiage.

502
00:30:35.325 --> 00:30:37.665
It doesn't need to be hard. What if it's just uncomfortable?

503
00:30:38.500 --> 00:30:41.159
Mhmm. And then it's like, oh, okay.

504
00:30:41.779 --> 00:30:42.600
Right? So

505
00:30:42.980 --> 00:30:43.640
it's like

506
00:30:44.100 --> 00:30:49.000
that's why I use both hand in hand is because I'm working with people on their identities.

507
00:30:49.700 --> 00:30:50.200
But

508
00:30:50.615 --> 00:30:57.995
for them to see their identities and work through the identities more clearly, the the actual energy work and the laws of the universe,

509
00:30:58.375 --> 00:30:59.115
they help.

510
00:30:59.415 --> 00:31:02.315
They help people understand themselves a little bit better.

511
00:31:03.049 --> 00:31:03.549
Mhmm.

512
00:31:04.970 --> 00:31:05.790
Alright, Jenna.

513
00:31:08.330 --> 00:31:11.070
I'd love to invite you to just take a beat take a,

514
00:31:11.690 --> 00:31:13.470
breath with me here for a sec.

515
00:31:15.465 --> 00:31:17.164
I think you're you're incredible.

516
00:31:17.465 --> 00:31:19.485
I think the I can feel

517
00:31:19.865 --> 00:31:25.725
the gravity of the without you having shared any details, I can feel the gravity of what you worked through and what you've

518
00:31:26.745 --> 00:31:30.220
what you've achieved, what you've mastered is is amazing.

519
00:31:30.280 --> 00:31:35.720
Like, the way you found your way out of, like, you've hinted at, but you haven't shared, but, like, that you hinted at.

520
00:31:35.720 --> 00:31:38.040
Like, growing up, it was really tough.

521
00:31:38.040 --> 00:31:44.695
And the divorce, which I'm sure was, like, challenging as fuck and scary and all of that, and you found a path here.

522
00:31:44.695 --> 00:31:45.195
It's

523
00:31:45.815 --> 00:31:46.635
it's amazing.

524
00:31:47.095 --> 00:31:48.315
And I wanna say,

525
00:31:49.095 --> 00:31:51.195
this is, like, officially on my podcast.

526
00:31:51.975 --> 00:31:52.955
And if you're like

527
00:31:53.710 --> 00:31:59.950
if you're if by the end of this, you're like, don't post this, like, a thousand percent, no problem.

528
00:31:59.950 --> 00:32:02.850
Like, I don't want you to go public with anything that you don't want.

529
00:32:03.150 --> 00:32:05.970
But I wanna make an invitation right now as you're open to it.

530
00:32:06.655 --> 00:32:10.195
Yeah. For sure. Yeah. Again, I'm here to just go with the flow. So

531
00:32:11.935 --> 00:32:14.035
would you be willing to be real with me?

532
00:32:15.535 --> 00:32:19.955
Yeah. I'm all I I'm transparent as fuck. Ask me anything you want.

533
00:32:21.230 --> 00:32:23.010
What I mean by that is, like,

534
00:32:23.710 --> 00:32:25.250
my experience is that

535
00:32:26.430 --> 00:32:32.130
I'm asking you questions, and a lot of what I get is, like, it feels like a rehearsed story.

536
00:32:33.725 --> 00:32:38.865
It feels like you're lecturing me on what you do and your methodology, which is cool. I get that.

537
00:32:39.805 --> 00:32:41.585
But that's not what we're here to do.

538
00:32:42.205 --> 00:32:45.825
I'm here to to serve you in the best way that I can. And if it gets,

539
00:32:46.190 --> 00:32:47.570
you know, if it gets

540
00:32:47.950 --> 00:32:51.010
tough and hard and you're like, hey. This is too much, that's totally fine.

541
00:32:51.790 --> 00:32:52.290
But,

542
00:32:53.630 --> 00:32:54.370
what I'm

543
00:32:54.830 --> 00:32:55.970
what I'm sensing

544
00:32:56.590 --> 00:32:57.090
is

545
00:32:58.350 --> 00:32:59.490
a level of,

546
00:33:03.434 --> 00:33:04.575
how do I say this?

547
00:33:09.195 --> 00:33:12.895
There's, like, a level of defensiveness or a level of, like,

548
00:33:16.400 --> 00:33:16.900
kind

549
00:33:18.080 --> 00:33:19.780
of it's like you have to have

550
00:33:20.480 --> 00:33:24.020
have all the answers or have all the stories or have all like, it's like

551
00:33:24.560 --> 00:33:29.040
it's like I feel like you're talking at me more than actually being with me in this conversation.

552
00:33:29.040 --> 00:33:32.305
That's that's the feeling I I sit with. Does that make sense

553
00:33:32.685 --> 00:33:38.225
in any way? Yeah. No. I I totally, like, understand what you're saying. Yeah. For sure. I yeah.

554
00:33:38.605 --> 00:33:39.105
I'm

555
00:33:40.605 --> 00:33:41.105
like,

556
00:33:41.485 --> 00:33:41.985
I'm

557
00:33:42.605 --> 00:33:45.425
I've I don't I guess I just don't really,

558
00:33:47.700 --> 00:33:51.000
I guess, I just what I don't know. Like, I don't really know how to answer

559
00:33:52.260 --> 00:33:55.560
your questions, I guess, that you're asking me to

560
00:33:55.940 --> 00:33:59.505
yeah. Like, I I feel like there's, like, a disconnect, I guess.

561
00:33:59.745 --> 00:34:02.485
And so I don't really know how to answer your question.

562
00:34:02.545 --> 00:34:05.125
You don't really know how to ask me the right question.

563
00:34:05.585 --> 00:34:09.685
I feel like there's, like, a true energetic disconnect. That's what I feel.

564
00:34:10.465 --> 00:34:10.784
Yeah.

565
00:34:10.784 --> 00:34:17.969
And what, I mean, what I feel is that, like, I ask a question that I am asking very intentionally, and what I get is, like,

566
00:34:22.349 --> 00:34:25.710
the opportunities to, like, really sit with that question and be like, oh, shit.

567
00:34:25.710 --> 00:34:27.330
I don't know the answer to that,

568
00:34:27.975 --> 00:34:30.215
And let's let's explore that together.

569
00:34:30.215 --> 00:34:34.775
Because, like, my whole my whole gig is to ask questions that you don't know the answer to. Right?

570
00:34:34.775 --> 00:34:38.795
Yeah. Totally. If you already know the answer, we're not getting we're not getting anywhere new.

571
00:34:39.015 --> 00:34:45.500
But then if you the pattern that I see is this tendency to be like, I need to have an answer, so let me start talking

572
00:34:45.800 --> 00:34:46.780
and say something,

573
00:34:47.480 --> 00:34:47.980
which

574
00:34:48.680 --> 00:34:53.400
then we never get to that other side. So my my and I'm I'm not judging you for that.

575
00:34:53.400 --> 00:34:55.739
Like, there's nothing wrong with it. It's very human.

576
00:34:56.235 --> 00:34:56.715
Yeah.

577
00:34:57.035 --> 00:35:01.855
But the opportunity is, like, where did you learn that that behavior that you had to know the answers?

578
00:35:03.755 --> 00:35:05.055
Guaranteed my childhood.

579
00:35:05.915 --> 00:35:06.415
Where?

580
00:35:06.715 --> 00:35:07.215
How?

581
00:35:07.675 --> 00:35:10.795
Can you will you go will you go explore with me now? You don't

582
00:35:11.859 --> 00:35:12.660
Yeah. Like

583
00:35:13.060 --> 00:35:15.079
Probably through see what things are.

584
00:35:17.460 --> 00:35:20.920
Honestly, like, I had to grow like, I had to grow up really fast.

585
00:35:21.540 --> 00:35:24.440
I grew up into addiction. I grew up into all those things.

586
00:35:24.980 --> 00:35:25.480
So

587
00:35:26.555 --> 00:35:29.455
I I always, you know, had to manage

588
00:35:33.355 --> 00:35:33.855
environments.

589
00:35:34.235 --> 00:35:36.735
Right? And I always had to kind of be

590
00:35:39.700 --> 00:35:40.520
very aware

591
00:35:40.980 --> 00:35:42.680
of you know? And

592
00:35:43.060 --> 00:35:46.360
it comes down to, like, my nervous system need to Hang on. Hang on.

593
00:35:46.580 --> 00:35:54.335
So let's talk about so this is this is great where where and, again, you're you've done nothing wrong, but you're talking in generalities.

594
00:35:54.955 --> 00:35:55.455
So

595
00:35:56.075 --> 00:35:57.035
let's get specific.

596
00:35:57.035 --> 00:36:01.855
Like, what's the situation where that he comes to mind where you, like, you had to know the answer?

597
00:36:02.715 --> 00:36:03.695
Or were you

598
00:36:04.395 --> 00:36:08.175
where you had to take care like, make sure things were in order. Let's get specific.

599
00:36:10.130 --> 00:36:10.950
My mom

600
00:36:11.490 --> 00:36:12.310
coming home

601
00:36:12.690 --> 00:36:13.190
drunk,

602
00:36:14.050 --> 00:36:20.310
me not knowing what in fact like, what mood she would be in. How old were you?

603
00:36:22.365 --> 00:36:24.365
I mean, my whole life. So

604
00:36:24.765 --> 00:36:25.665
Pick a moment.

605
00:36:26.285 --> 00:36:29.585
Take take a take a beat. Take a second. Think of a situation,

606
00:36:29.885 --> 00:36:34.685
whatever comes to mind. Let's get really, like, specific dates, specific time, specific event.

607
00:36:34.685 --> 00:36:35.425
What happened?

608
00:36:35.900 --> 00:36:36.800
Walk me through

609
00:36:43.900 --> 00:36:44.400
it.

610
00:36:45.180 --> 00:36:48.560
I guess one that's coming to mind, I guess, I like, I was 12.

611
00:36:51.015 --> 00:36:51.994
Mhmm. Yeah. Just

612
00:36:52.535 --> 00:36:53.595
her coming home,

613
00:36:55.494 --> 00:36:56.474
not really knowing,

614
00:36:57.015 --> 00:36:57.515
like,

615
00:36:58.455 --> 00:36:58.955
what,

616
00:36:59.335 --> 00:37:00.715
yeah, what her

617
00:37:01.450 --> 00:37:02.190
mood would

618
00:37:02.490 --> 00:37:06.910
be. Is she gonna come home already? Picked up booze on the way home.

619
00:37:07.210 --> 00:37:10.430
Is she gonna come home and then dive into it?

620
00:37:11.050 --> 00:37:15.745
You know? So you just kind of are like, oh, you make sure the dishes are done.

621
00:37:15.745 --> 00:37:18.725
You make sure this is done. You make sure there's nothing

622
00:37:19.025 --> 00:37:21.125
for her to I get it.

623
00:37:21.825 --> 00:37:22.805
So let's get

624
00:37:23.185 --> 00:37:24.805
slow down even more. So,

625
00:37:25.425 --> 00:37:29.180
like, what time of day is it? What are you doing? What's the moment?

626
00:37:29.180 --> 00:37:33.820
Does she just like, do you hear the keys in the in the lock, or is the door open?

627
00:37:33.820 --> 00:37:37.200
Like, how does this like, let's get super specific here.

628
00:37:38.060 --> 00:37:40.140
Yeah. Just like in my room

629
00:37:41.125 --> 00:37:44.025
Mhmm. She you hear you definitely hear the door unlock.

630
00:37:44.485 --> 00:37:44.985
Okay.

631
00:37:45.285 --> 00:37:46.505
I'm so sorry.

632
00:37:48.165 --> 00:37:53.605
I it's just But It's very weird for me to go back to a specific moment.

633
00:37:53.605 --> 00:37:55.865
I'm like, I didn't sign up for therapy today.

634
00:37:56.240 --> 00:38:00.319
I'm like, okay. This is weird. You can you can totally you can totally back out.

635
00:38:00.319 --> 00:38:02.020
And, again, we don't have to record this.

636
00:38:03.040 --> 00:38:03.359
Sorry.

637
00:38:03.359 --> 00:38:07.520
We we don't have to publish this, and you're you can totally be be like, I don't wanna talk about this.

638
00:38:07.520 --> 00:38:10.799
I'm I'm I'm good with that. It's not that I'm not comfortable talking about it.

639
00:38:10.799 --> 00:38:13.175
I think I'm just thrown off guard because it's not,

640
00:38:14.355 --> 00:38:15.875
Yeah. It's yeah.

641
00:38:15.875 --> 00:38:19.715
It's just like like, when I go to my counselor appointments, I know that that's what's happening.

642
00:38:19.715 --> 00:38:24.855
You know what I Yeah. So I think I'm like, okay. This is this is yeah. So I'm just like, okay.

643
00:38:24.915 --> 00:38:25.895
It's a little strange.

644
00:38:26.280 --> 00:38:26.780
Yeah.

645
00:38:27.800 --> 00:38:31.640
But I'm also, like, I'm also open to whatever is meant to happen.

646
00:38:31.640 --> 00:38:39.820
Like, I'm I am very open to that, so that's why I haven't shut you down yet because I'm very open minded and very open to receive.

647
00:38:42.045 --> 00:38:43.825
But it's just I guess I didn't

648
00:38:44.444 --> 00:38:49.645
plan on going back there today. So I'm like, you know, I'm like, I'm in business mode right now.

649
00:38:49.645 --> 00:38:53.645
I'm in, like and then I'm like, oh, I have to go back to that. That's fucking weird. Okay.

650
00:38:53.645 --> 00:38:54.365
Let me just

651
00:38:55.325 --> 00:38:59.020
Yeah. I totally get it. Yeah. It's not your typical podcast.

652
00:38:59.880 --> 00:39:01.660
Yeah. Yeah. No. Yeah.

653
00:39:02.200 --> 00:39:05.980
And, again, I totally respect you. You're an awesome human being. You're you're incredible.

654
00:39:06.200 --> 00:39:09.660
Like, Jenna Big Energy, not for not for no reason.

655
00:39:10.120 --> 00:39:10.620
Like,

656
00:39:11.385 --> 00:39:12.525
I just know that

657
00:39:12.905 --> 00:39:16.205
my spidey sense is that says that there's real gold here.

658
00:39:16.345 --> 00:39:21.085
So the reason I stopped you this time was that the pattern that I've noticed a couple times now

659
00:39:21.465 --> 00:39:21.965
where

660
00:39:23.385 --> 00:39:24.605
you start to say

661
00:39:24.985 --> 00:39:27.540
and then, you know, I'm in my room. Blah blah blah.

662
00:39:27.540 --> 00:39:33.640
Mom comes home, and then you start to wonder if she's like you you start to talk in the second person.

663
00:39:35.060 --> 00:39:48.675
Instead of saying, I started to wonder whether she was I did this, you say you, which is just a a simple little pattern that we do to, again, deflect a little and avoid actually being with what's there.

664
00:39:49.535 --> 00:39:53.055
Mhmm. Mhmm. So if you're okay with it like, tell me the story again.

665
00:39:53.055 --> 00:39:54.755
You're in your room, and then what happens

666
00:39:55.500 --> 00:39:56.480
on this particular

667
00:39:57.020 --> 00:39:59.520
day? Yeah. At eight Yeah. Jenny's 12 years old.

668
00:40:00.540 --> 00:40:01.520
In my room,

669
00:40:04.540 --> 00:40:05.520
she comes home,

670
00:40:06.380 --> 00:40:08.480
and I I guess I'm just, like,

671
00:40:09.100 --> 00:40:10.240
waiting up there

672
00:40:11.075 --> 00:40:14.855
to just I'm I'm hiding, essentially, is what I'm doing. I'm hiding,

673
00:40:16.755 --> 00:40:19.815
and just hoping that, you know, she just

674
00:40:20.275 --> 00:40:21.175
has no issues,

675
00:40:22.595 --> 00:40:23.415
no whatever.

676
00:40:24.915 --> 00:40:25.975
Generally speaking,

677
00:40:26.790 --> 00:40:31.050
she if she already would come home drunk, then she would pass out pretty quickly.

678
00:40:31.830 --> 00:40:34.410
If she didn't, then it might take a little bit longer.

679
00:40:35.990 --> 00:40:36.310
But

680
00:40:36.870 --> 00:40:38.410
Are you hoping she'll pass out?

681
00:40:38.550 --> 00:40:45.935
I'm hoping she'll just pass out, and then I can leave and, like, go to a friend's house, or I can just be left alone for the rest of the night

682
00:40:46.235 --> 00:40:46.955
or Mhmm.

683
00:40:47.355 --> 00:40:47.855
Whatever.

684
00:40:48.395 --> 00:40:50.975
Got it. So Jenna, 12 years old,

685
00:40:51.515 --> 00:40:55.560
in her room, she hears her mom come home. I can feel it kinda like the whole bracing

686
00:41:01.640 --> 00:41:02.380
Oh, fuck.

687
00:41:03.240 --> 00:41:04.060
What is

688
00:41:04.360 --> 00:41:07.340
what is what did she make that mean in that moment?

689
00:41:09.775 --> 00:41:12.835
What it sorry. Repeat that. What did she make that mean?

690
00:41:13.215 --> 00:41:13.715
Yeah.

691
00:41:14.735 --> 00:41:16.835
That my home was not safe?

692
00:41:17.535 --> 00:41:19.875
Yeah. I get that totally. Yeah.

693
00:41:21.309 --> 00:41:21.710
Yeah.

694
00:41:21.710 --> 00:41:27.630
What did did she did you make it mean did she make it mean something about her other than, like, I'm not safe?

695
00:41:27.630 --> 00:41:28.130
But

696
00:41:30.430 --> 00:41:32.369
what does it say about her that her mom

697
00:41:33.789 --> 00:41:35.950
cares more about the booze than her? Or

698
00:41:39.125 --> 00:41:43.785
like, you're sorry. You're asking me about her or you're asking

699
00:41:44.965 --> 00:41:50.825
Mhmm. Like asking, yeah, you about the Jenna at at age 12. What would she make it

700
00:41:51.380 --> 00:41:55.140
mean about herself? What okay. Yeah. That yeah. That yeah. That yeah. It

701
00:41:56.420 --> 00:41:57.080
I mean,

702
00:41:58.900 --> 00:42:01.560
I did know at that time that

703
00:42:02.980 --> 00:42:03.480
her,

704
00:42:05.055 --> 00:42:08.895
like, it was a coping mechanism for herself. Like, I I did

705
00:42:09.695 --> 00:42:12.275
yeah. I did know that, and I knew

706
00:42:12.895 --> 00:42:13.395
that

707
00:42:14.015 --> 00:42:19.500
she had her own trauma, and she had her own stuff that she was just refusing to deal with.

708
00:42:19.500 --> 00:42:20.320
And it was

709
00:42:20.700 --> 00:42:22.640
a it was a cover for that, but

710
00:42:23.100 --> 00:42:24.080
the daughter,

711
00:42:25.260 --> 00:42:27.280
the 12 year old me, obviously

712
00:42:27.820 --> 00:42:29.680
would like, felt like, okay.

713
00:42:30.220 --> 00:42:31.920
I'm less important than

714
00:42:32.380 --> 00:42:32.880
the

715
00:42:33.855 --> 00:42:38.115
the booze or the or I'm not in I guess, it wasn't that I was less important.

716
00:42:38.255 --> 00:42:43.155
It was that I wasn't important enough for her to try to heal her shit.

717
00:42:44.175 --> 00:42:44.675
Yeah.

718
00:42:46.220 --> 00:42:47.680
That's really what it was.

719
00:42:48.940 --> 00:42:52.400
Yeah. Because if it like, you know, as a kid, it's like if I

720
00:42:52.779 --> 00:42:56.559
was important enough to her, then she would just do whatever it took to

721
00:42:57.099 --> 00:42:58.079
Mhmm. You know?

722
00:42:58.460 --> 00:43:01.279
But that wasn't Figure the fuck out. Yeah. Yeah.

723
00:43:02.065 --> 00:43:02.565
Yeah.

724
00:43:03.345 --> 00:43:05.285
Yeah. Totally feel that.

725
00:43:07.985 --> 00:43:10.085
That's fucking rough. Where was your dad?

726
00:43:11.425 --> 00:43:13.205
He was never in the picture. He

727
00:43:13.970 --> 00:43:18.549
he left when I was I think I was two, in between two and three.

728
00:43:18.930 --> 00:43:21.269
He also had his own addiction issues,

729
00:43:23.089 --> 00:43:24.309
in and out of jail.

730
00:43:24.609 --> 00:43:27.190
Just not a not a great guy.

731
00:43:27.684 --> 00:43:28.664
I'm so sorry.

732
00:43:28.964 --> 00:43:29.684
Yeah. What

733
00:43:30.484 --> 00:43:31.525
how did that affect you?

734
00:43:31.525 --> 00:43:36.404
When did you learn when do you remember how old you were when you when that when you realized, like, oh, shit.

735
00:43:36.404 --> 00:43:39.065
Dad's gone. Other other girls have a dad. Like,

736
00:43:40.164 --> 00:43:41.464
when did that hit you?

737
00:43:44.700 --> 00:43:45.600
I don't know,

738
00:43:46.060 --> 00:43:46.880
to be honest.

739
00:43:48.300 --> 00:43:51.520
I don't know if it ever I don't remember a time

740
00:43:53.340 --> 00:43:54.140
where I ever

741
00:43:56.105 --> 00:43:59.405
like, I think there was moments where I felt, like, again,

742
00:44:00.345 --> 00:44:08.125
like, if that was important enough that he would just, like, reach out at some point or, like, send my mom some money or, like, do something to help us.

743
00:44:08.585 --> 00:44:09.484
Mhmm. So

744
00:44:09.980 --> 00:44:16.000
I think that there was fleeting moments of, like, that that I was, like, angry because he, like, wasn't even, like,

745
00:44:16.380 --> 00:44:17.599
trying to help.

746
00:44:18.380 --> 00:44:22.079
Mhmm. But I I don't know if there was ever a moment. I don't remember

747
00:44:22.380 --> 00:44:26.785
any moments where I felt like I needed him in terms of, like

748
00:44:27.885 --> 00:44:29.025
Mhmm. You know?

749
00:44:29.485 --> 00:44:33.585
I don't know. I think I I think I directed that energy towards my mom because

750
00:44:34.045 --> 00:44:35.905
my mom was there, but she wasn't.

751
00:44:36.685 --> 00:44:38.625
So it was like, I need one of you,

752
00:44:39.520 --> 00:44:41.220
but I have either of you.

753
00:44:41.840 --> 00:44:45.620
Yeah. What did what did you make that mean if you look back now? Like,

754
00:44:46.080 --> 00:44:46.580
unconsciously,

755
00:44:46.880 --> 00:44:49.140
what did you make that mean that he wasn't there?

756
00:44:57.755 --> 00:44:59.375
I don't know how to answer that.

757
00:45:01.115 --> 00:45:02.735
Yeah. I don't really know.

758
00:45:03.595 --> 00:45:04.315
Clearly, yeah.

759
00:45:04.315 --> 00:45:10.190
I mean, I I I'd imagine, like, more of the not clearly not important enough for him to, like, even bother.

760
00:45:10.250 --> 00:45:11.630
Right? There's some of that.

761
00:45:12.170 --> 00:45:14.110
Mhmm. Totally. 100%.

762
00:45:14.330 --> 00:45:15.150
100%.

763
00:45:16.330 --> 00:45:16.830
Yeah.

764
00:45:18.330 --> 00:45:18.830
And

765
00:45:20.345 --> 00:45:22.525
I'm wondering if there's, like, a level of,

766
00:45:22.905 --> 00:45:26.045
like, my needs don't matter or just, like, I gotta just,

767
00:45:26.345 --> 00:45:30.285
like, I gotta scale it out. Yeah. 1000%.

768
00:45:30.345 --> 00:45:31.964
Oh, yeah. I developed

769
00:45:33.020 --> 00:45:34.640
huge people pleasing tendencies

770
00:45:35.020 --> 00:45:36.320
that carried forward

771
00:45:36.940 --> 00:45:38.880
into my whole young adulthood

772
00:45:39.339 --> 00:45:40.940
with my marriage and everything.

773
00:45:40.940 --> 00:45:49.635
Like, I was the person that was always there to be and do and whatever for everybody else, but I self sacrificed.

774
00:45:49.635 --> 00:45:53.255
I never put myself first. I never I never even put myself second.

775
00:45:54.115 --> 00:45:57.815
You know? I was very, yeah, very heavy people pleasing,

776
00:46:00.035 --> 00:46:02.615
just essentially was a doormat to everybody else.

777
00:46:03.315 --> 00:46:03.815
Yeah.

778
00:46:04.250 --> 00:46:04.750
Awesome.

779
00:46:05.530 --> 00:46:06.650
Or not awesome. But

780
00:46:07.130 --> 00:46:09.950
yes. Yeah. No. I know. I can use yes. No. I appreciate

781
00:46:10.250 --> 00:46:10.750
the

782
00:46:11.690 --> 00:46:12.349
the the transparency,

783
00:46:12.650 --> 00:46:14.270
the vulnerability here. Yeah.

784
00:46:14.809 --> 00:46:15.309
So

785
00:46:16.525 --> 00:46:17.565
you probably you probably agree.

786
00:46:17.565 --> 00:46:23.965
Like, we've obviously swim in many of the same waters and operate very much in the same way as, like, identity work, energy work, all that stuff.

787
00:46:24.925 --> 00:46:25.425
So,

788
00:46:27.005 --> 00:46:28.785
the way that I look at

789
00:46:29.085 --> 00:46:30.865
this whole thing, like,

790
00:46:32.810 --> 00:46:36.590
life, business, relationships, everything is really just a mirror for

791
00:46:37.290 --> 00:46:38.430
where we're not

792
00:46:39.370 --> 00:46:46.010
free, where we're not operating from our soul, where we're still stuck in, I call it mind bugs, but you can call it whatever you want.

793
00:46:46.010 --> 00:46:52.955
Like, these, like, identity level pieces, energetic level pieces, wherever that that keep us stuck in, like, still operating from

794
00:46:53.415 --> 00:46:58.315
from the ego construct, from our conditioning, etcetera. Yeah. Yeah. And

795
00:46:58.820 --> 00:47:03.880
and the whole journey is just everything that happens in life is an invitation to look at

796
00:47:04.740 --> 00:47:06.840
another piece of, like, where we're not

797
00:47:07.220 --> 00:47:08.440
doing that. Mhmm.

798
00:47:08.820 --> 00:47:09.320
And,

799
00:47:10.900 --> 00:47:14.600
everything that happens in life, including, like, the early childhood is something,

800
00:47:16.555 --> 00:47:20.175
like, where those pieces get installed, like, in situations like this

801
00:47:20.715 --> 00:47:24.495
are things that are are scenarios that are so orchestrated

802
00:47:24.795 --> 00:47:26.015
before coming here.

803
00:47:26.395 --> 00:47:30.335
Mhmm. So it's like, I wanna experience what it feels like to live as

804
00:47:30.810 --> 00:47:31.550
not safe.

805
00:47:32.010 --> 00:47:36.430
I wanna experience feel what it lives with a mind bug that says I'm not important,

806
00:47:36.970 --> 00:47:38.510
but my needs don't matter.

807
00:47:39.370 --> 00:47:41.550
I wanna have that experience fully

808
00:47:42.170 --> 00:47:43.470
so that I can

809
00:47:44.105 --> 00:47:45.085
be like, okay. That's

810
00:47:45.545 --> 00:47:51.385
an interesting experience. That kinda sucks. Now let me transcend it and to live in the other place.

811
00:47:51.385 --> 00:47:52.904
Yeah? And there's kind of the whole

812
00:47:53.865 --> 00:47:55.305
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

813
00:47:55.305 --> 00:48:01.890
So the reason I go there is to, like, really anchor in reality and just be totally present

814
00:48:02.430 --> 00:48:04.210
with with what is and see

815
00:48:06.190 --> 00:48:07.250
the pattern because

816
00:48:08.029 --> 00:48:08.769
there is

817
00:48:10.575 --> 00:48:12.275
there's your, like, there'll be threads

818
00:48:12.895 --> 00:48:13.395
there

819
00:48:13.855 --> 00:48:15.955
still. So what I'm what I'm seeing

820
00:48:16.415 --> 00:48:22.435
is, like, first of all, like, what a fucking brave little girl and what, like, incredible work that you've done

821
00:48:23.360 --> 00:48:23.860
transcending

822
00:48:25.040 --> 00:48:25.540
Mhmm.

823
00:48:26.160 --> 00:48:27.780
A lot. Right? Like,

824
00:48:28.560 --> 00:48:34.160
no dad, dad in and out of jail, like mom on alcohol, like, dad on whatever he was on.

825
00:48:34.160 --> 00:48:37.460
Like, it's just like, holy fuck. Did you have sisters or brothers?

826
00:48:38.715 --> 00:48:42.015
I had two brothers. Well, I have two brothers, technically.

827
00:48:43.515 --> 00:48:44.415
One is

828
00:48:44.875 --> 00:48:47.935
not like, he's followed the same path, so he's

829
00:48:48.475 --> 00:48:50.735
fully in addiction mode. Don't

830
00:48:51.290 --> 00:48:53.630
have any sort of contact with him.

831
00:48:53.930 --> 00:48:56.030
And then the other one is,

832
00:48:56.570 --> 00:48:58.270
I do have contact with him,

833
00:48:58.970 --> 00:49:00.030
but he is

834
00:49:01.450 --> 00:49:04.430
he's a difficult one. He's difficult. He

835
00:49:05.175 --> 00:49:05.995
he really

836
00:49:06.615 --> 00:49:10.875
refuses to kinda heal his stuff. Mhmm. Mhmm. And so,

837
00:49:11.255 --> 00:49:12.795
yeah, we have a relationship,

838
00:49:13.895 --> 00:49:15.035
but it's, like,

839
00:49:15.575 --> 00:49:19.435
kinda an eggshell type, walking on eggshells type of relationship.

840
00:49:21.180 --> 00:49:22.000
Older or younger?

841
00:49:22.619 --> 00:49:23.119
Older.

842
00:49:23.660 --> 00:49:24.640
Both of them?

843
00:49:25.420 --> 00:49:27.660
Yeah. They're both older. Yeah. Mhmm. Yeah.

844
00:49:27.660 --> 00:49:30.080
By a lot or a little, were you living in the same household?

845
00:49:33.215 --> 00:49:35.775
I mean, yeah, for a certain period of time.

846
00:49:35.775 --> 00:49:40.595
Like, my oldest brother is nine years older, so we only lived together

847
00:49:40.895 --> 00:49:41.795
till I was

848
00:49:42.495 --> 00:49:44.195
nine, actually. Mhmm.

849
00:49:45.215 --> 00:49:45.955
And then

850
00:49:48.500 --> 00:49:51.000
the other brother is three years older,

851
00:49:51.780 --> 00:49:52.280
and

852
00:49:54.020 --> 00:49:54.500
he

853
00:49:54.900 --> 00:49:58.099
yeah. We lived together for a short like like, up until I was

854
00:49:58.740 --> 00:50:02.920
I think I was, like, 12. I think it was he was 15 when my mom kicked him out.

855
00:50:03.605 --> 00:50:04.105
Mhmm.

856
00:50:05.204 --> 00:50:09.285
Yeah. Yeah. So around the time that we were talking about before. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

857
00:50:09.285 --> 00:50:12.265
What did what did he get kicked out from for over?

858
00:50:14.005 --> 00:50:14.505
Oh,

859
00:50:15.045 --> 00:50:18.920
he just he would he would steal. He would like, he was yeah.

860
00:50:18.920 --> 00:50:21.660
He would he was a very, like, pathological liar.

861
00:50:23.560 --> 00:50:29.400
Very much a people pleaser as well, like, in terms of, like, his groups of friends and people that he hung out with.

862
00:50:29.400 --> 00:50:31.180
He would always kinda look for those

863
00:50:32.305 --> 00:50:32.885
those bad

864
00:50:33.345 --> 00:50:37.125
kids, you know, Owen always kinda found himself in trouble of some

865
00:50:37.665 --> 00:50:39.845
some way, shape, or form. And,

866
00:50:42.225 --> 00:50:47.045
yeah. And it was I think it was the stealing from my mom that she just he started

867
00:50:47.559 --> 00:50:51.579
Like, he stole money from her. He stole lots of stuff from her. So it was

868
00:50:52.119 --> 00:50:52.619
just

869
00:50:52.920 --> 00:50:53.420
yeah.

870
00:50:54.039 --> 00:50:56.220
And is he the one that you still have contact with?

871
00:50:56.599 --> 00:50:59.559
No. No. He's the one I we yeah. It's the other one.

872
00:50:59.559 --> 00:51:02.859
It's the oldest oldest one that that I have contact with. Yeah.

873
00:51:03.444 --> 00:51:04.825
Yeah. So I just I mean,

874
00:51:05.125 --> 00:51:11.365
take a moment to really take in what fucking miracle you are. Like, the commitment and the

875
00:51:11.924 --> 00:51:15.305
like, you know, just even believing in a different possibility

876
00:51:16.005 --> 00:51:19.660
Yeah. Is fucking huge. Like, who does that? Yeah. Yeah. Do you know what I'm saying?

877
00:51:19.660 --> 00:51:20.960
Like, most people don't.

878
00:51:21.580 --> 00:51:25.260
Yeah. They're just like, okay. This is what it is. Like, okay. We do we get drunk here.

879
00:51:25.260 --> 00:51:29.820
Like, we do drugs here. Like, whatever. We get in in jail. Like, I guess that's how it is. Let's go.

880
00:51:29.820 --> 00:51:32.960
Right? Like, you chose something different. What a fucking miracle.

881
00:51:33.805 --> 00:51:35.105
What a fucking miracle.

882
00:51:35.965 --> 00:51:37.105
Yeah. Wow.

883
00:51:37.565 --> 00:51:38.465
What courage?

884
00:51:39.005 --> 00:51:41.985
What bravery? I'm I'm really I'm really blown away by you.

885
00:51:42.925 --> 00:51:43.425
What

886
00:51:43.805 --> 00:51:48.799
what I'm seeing is we're, like, running running up on time. Like, what I'm seeing here with you

887
00:51:49.260 --> 00:51:49.500
is

888
00:51:50.140 --> 00:51:55.740
and it's so beautiful because, like, that was kinda where you open with, like, I don't like the talk about coaching.

889
00:51:55.740 --> 00:51:56.960
It's more of the transmission.

890
00:51:58.025 --> 00:52:00.765
What I see for you, the opportunity is, like,

891
00:52:01.225 --> 00:52:04.045
is double down. We really lean into the transmission.

892
00:52:05.065 --> 00:52:08.525
And what I'm sensing is there's still this, like,

893
00:52:08.905 --> 00:52:11.645
I need to reference, like, things,

894
00:52:12.265 --> 00:52:13.325
reference the

895
00:52:14.230 --> 00:52:20.490
the the energy thing and the science thing and da da da. I have to, like, kinda argue for my worth

896
00:52:21.190 --> 00:52:29.494
and for my value because the values in, like, in the sciences, this, and this says this, and it's got it's like, you know, you're pointing to other authorities versus

897
00:52:30.035 --> 00:52:31.815
just be fucking Jenna Big Energy.

898
00:52:32.435 --> 00:52:34.135
Mhmm. You're fucking enough.

899
00:52:34.835 --> 00:52:37.575
Mhmm. Mhmm. You're enough just being you.

900
00:52:38.435 --> 00:52:42.829
Yeah. Yeah. I see what you're saying. Yeah. Right. Just be with people.

901
00:52:43.130 --> 00:52:46.970
It's fine. Those things are fine. Like, we'll reference them. We'll use them.

902
00:52:46.970 --> 00:52:49.950
It's it's not not true. It's it's great. It's valuable.

903
00:52:50.410 --> 00:52:51.309
But you

904
00:52:52.009 --> 00:52:52.990
just like,

905
00:52:53.575 --> 00:52:55.675
you as just you who you are

906
00:52:56.455 --> 00:52:57.435
is plenty.

907
00:52:58.295 --> 00:52:58.795
Mhmm.

908
00:52:59.175 --> 00:52:59.675
Mhmm.

909
00:53:00.055 --> 00:53:03.435
And those things are additives, not what make

910
00:53:03.895 --> 00:53:04.695
me or my

911
00:53:05.680 --> 00:53:06.480
Exactly. Yeah.

912
00:53:06.480 --> 00:53:11.300
Because it is I mean, that when you say that, it what what clicks for me is that it it it wasn't

913
00:53:11.600 --> 00:53:15.540
the identity work that changed my life. It was me

914
00:53:16.240 --> 00:53:18.180
Mhmm. That made the choice

915
00:53:18.640 --> 00:53:23.835
and that, you know, did like, it was my power that actually changed my life.

916
00:53:23.835 --> 00:53:26.575
Those things were just like the textbook to the

917
00:53:26.954 --> 00:53:28.575
right? Like, they were just the

918
00:53:28.954 --> 00:53:32.075
the the cat, like, the extra little piece. Right? Yeah.

919
00:53:32.075 --> 00:53:36.829
But it was it isn't actually what was the transformation. I I'm the transformation.

920
00:53:37.369 --> 00:53:39.069
Fuck. Yeah. Exactly.

921
00:53:39.930 --> 00:53:40.430
Yeah.

922
00:53:40.730 --> 00:53:41.230
Yeah.

923
00:53:41.609 --> 00:53:42.750
I appreciate that.

924
00:53:43.130 --> 00:53:44.990
So is it true that you're not safe?

925
00:53:46.935 --> 00:53:47.675
Not now.

926
00:53:48.055 --> 00:53:49.035
It's not true anymore.

927
00:53:49.655 --> 00:53:51.595
Was it true then that you were not safe?

928
00:53:55.415 --> 00:53:56.715
Yeah. To some extent,

929
00:53:57.095 --> 00:53:57.595
because

930
00:53:58.500 --> 00:54:03.480
it's different as an adult to a kid, I feel like. You know? Like, as an adult, I feel like we

931
00:54:03.940 --> 00:54:05.160
we have those choices.

932
00:54:05.620 --> 00:54:07.540
We have the ability to make different choices.

933
00:54:07.540 --> 00:54:12.694
But when you're a kid, you don't have like, you have the ability to make the choice, but you don't have the circumstances

934
00:54:13.075 --> 00:54:15.015
that allow you to. Right?

935
00:54:15.555 --> 00:54:19.654
And what I'd invite you to consider is who the who is the you in the sentence?

936
00:54:22.355 --> 00:54:23.654
I mean, when I ask,

937
00:54:24.250 --> 00:54:26.910
is was it true that you were not safe?

938
00:54:27.210 --> 00:54:28.270
Who is the you?

939
00:54:30.490 --> 00:54:31.230
And I

940
00:54:31.610 --> 00:54:33.070
I know I'm fucking with you.

941
00:54:33.850 --> 00:54:35.790
Yeah. I'm like I'm like,

942
00:54:36.250 --> 00:54:37.230
I don't know.

943
00:54:38.915 --> 00:54:39.655
I'm like,

944
00:54:40.195 --> 00:54:42.775
this is this is the whole whole game is

945
00:54:43.395 --> 00:54:45.255
you as the human you

946
00:54:46.435 --> 00:54:51.970
will never be safe here on this planet. It's just not hope. Yes. Like none of us are. Right?

947
00:54:52.190 --> 00:54:56.769
Shit can happen. We can walk on the sidewalk and be hit by a fucking little truck or whatever.

948
00:54:57.309 --> 00:54:58.350
That sold you

949
00:54:58.750 --> 00:55:00.210
Yeah. To never be alarmed.

950
00:55:00.750 --> 00:55:01.970
Yes. Yes.

951
00:55:03.895 --> 00:55:05.035
Yeah. No. I

952
00:55:05.415 --> 00:55:07.995
I I I feel that. Yeah. I feel that.

953
00:55:08.615 --> 00:55:09.115
Yeah.

954
00:55:09.495 --> 00:55:11.355
So is it true that you're not safe?

955
00:55:12.375 --> 00:55:12.875
No.

956
00:55:13.575 --> 00:55:14.075
No.

957
00:55:15.335 --> 00:55:18.875
No. Yeah. Even if it might feel like it, it it doesn't make it true.

958
00:55:19.470 --> 00:55:23.730
Yeah. It doesn't make it true. Yeah. It's very human if you feel not safe. We all do that.

959
00:55:24.350 --> 00:55:24.850
Yes.

960
00:55:25.550 --> 00:55:26.030
Yeah. Yeah.

961
00:55:26.030 --> 00:55:31.570
And so there might have been a flavor of, like, it's like, for you as a kid, right, it is not safe to be me.

962
00:55:31.630 --> 00:55:33.170
Right? I have to be, like Yeah.

963
00:55:33.845 --> 00:55:42.585
Dog shield myself or be, like, be careful what I say in the right way so mom doesn't have a whatever or, like, I don't know what she might do, but you know?

964
00:55:43.125 --> 00:55:43.944
So it's like,

965
00:55:45.620 --> 00:55:50.100
the more that you can get just allow yourself to get, like, it's safe to be you now.

966
00:55:50.100 --> 00:55:52.040
It's safe to just be fucking you.

967
00:55:52.660 --> 00:55:53.160
Mhmm.

968
00:55:53.620 --> 00:55:54.840
In every capacity.

969
00:55:55.620 --> 00:55:56.120
Yeah.

970
00:55:56.580 --> 00:55:57.080
Mhmm.

971
00:55:58.605 --> 00:55:59.585
Yeah. And that's really

972
00:55:59.965 --> 00:56:05.085
the the keys of the kingdom. That's the It is. It honestly it truly is. It is.

973
00:56:05.085 --> 00:56:07.665
It's releasing all of that human construct

974
00:56:08.205 --> 00:56:09.985
and just operating from soul.

975
00:56:10.605 --> 00:56:14.599
Yeah. And when you do that in your content, when you do that in your community,

976
00:56:15.300 --> 00:56:16.520
when you do that in the

977
00:56:17.540 --> 00:56:18.040
coaching

978
00:56:18.820 --> 00:56:19.320
Yeah.

979
00:56:23.380 --> 00:56:26.920
Yeah. Yeah. Whatever. Just show up, be you, because you're fucking incredible.

980
00:56:27.265 --> 00:56:28.565
Like, what a fucking

981
00:56:28.945 --> 00:56:33.925
incredible being you are. Like, truly. Thank you. Thank you. Yeah. Appreciate you.

982
00:56:34.625 --> 00:56:35.125
Yeah.

983
00:56:38.145 --> 00:56:41.345
Yeah. No. I appreciate that. I appreciate your time. That was,

984
00:56:42.270 --> 00:56:48.530
it's very interesting. Very interesting, but I I love that you that you helped me put my wall down,

985
00:56:49.310 --> 00:56:50.290
and put the

986
00:56:50.590 --> 00:56:53.330
I had I came in with a preconceived notion,

987
00:56:53.710 --> 00:56:55.410
and I Yeah. You know?

988
00:56:57.045 --> 00:56:57.545
Yeah.

989
00:56:57.925 --> 00:57:01.464
Yeah. I get it. People don't know what the fuck to expect here. So

990
00:57:03.285 --> 00:57:07.625
But that's beautiful. I love that. I love that you, like, shock the shit out of people.

991
00:57:08.724 --> 00:57:13.800
And I'm sure you probably get some really positive responses out of it, and I'm sure you probably get some not so positive responses.

992
00:57:13.940 --> 00:57:16.520
I get a lot of, like, oh, I didn't expect to go here.

993
00:57:17.700 --> 00:57:20.440
Yeah. Totally. Totally. Yeah. But that's cool.

994
00:57:21.060 --> 00:57:21.560
Yeah.

995
00:57:24.415 --> 00:57:26.434
So what do you take with you from today?

996
00:57:29.454 --> 00:57:33.395
I take I take with me to continue to

997
00:57:33.775 --> 00:57:38.915
allow myself to be fully visible in all facets of me,

998
00:57:39.510 --> 00:57:42.090
not what I think the world needs to see.

999
00:57:42.710 --> 00:57:43.210
Yeah.

1000
00:57:45.190 --> 00:57:46.410
I love that for you.

1001
00:57:46.950 --> 00:57:47.450
Yeah.

1002
00:57:47.910 --> 00:57:48.410
Yeah.

1003
00:57:48.470 --> 00:57:52.694
And it's right on track because it's what I've been working on, and my identity is my visibility.

1004
00:57:52.755 --> 00:57:59.255
So it's actually so funny that this is what it's not funny because it's right on the universe lined this shit up like fucking

1005
00:57:59.875 --> 00:58:00.535
you know?

1006
00:58:00.994 --> 00:58:01.494
But,

1007
00:58:02.675 --> 00:58:05.494
but, yeah, it's very, very cool that

1008
00:58:06.120 --> 00:58:07.020
it's just another.

1009
00:58:07.960 --> 00:58:10.220
What does what does 12 year old

1010
00:58:10.600 --> 00:58:14.300
Jana in that room on that day? What does she need to hear from you right now?

1011
00:58:20.205 --> 00:58:21.185
That everything

1012
00:58:21.885 --> 00:58:26.385
is going to be more magical than you can even imagine.

1013
00:58:29.245 --> 00:58:29.745
Yeah.

1014
00:58:31.645 --> 00:58:32.545
Yeah. Yeah.

1015
00:58:33.910 --> 00:58:34.410
Yeah.

1016
00:58:37.030 --> 00:58:38.330
What a precious girl.

1017
00:58:42.150 --> 00:58:42.650
Ugh.

1018
00:58:44.550 --> 00:58:45.050
Yeah.

1019
00:58:46.734 --> 00:58:48.675
She's gonna be the one to heal her

1020
00:58:49.535 --> 00:58:51.395
mom and her dad and her brothers

1021
00:58:52.494 --> 00:58:55.234
and to her future kids and the whole fucking neighborhood

1022
00:58:55.855 --> 00:58:56.595
and beyond.

1023
00:58:57.295 --> 00:58:58.755
That little fucking girl.

1024
00:59:00.250 --> 00:59:02.750
Like, what Yeah. What spark?

1025
00:59:03.690 --> 00:59:04.670
Right? What's,

1026
00:59:05.289 --> 00:59:07.069
spark that girl had

1027
00:59:08.250 --> 00:59:11.470
continues to have. But, like, what incredible spark she had to, like,

1028
00:59:12.645 --> 00:59:14.745
to have that be how she

1029
00:59:15.605 --> 00:59:19.385
took on the lessons of life, the hardship that she grew up with.

1030
00:59:20.245 --> 00:59:20.745
Yeah.

1031
00:59:22.405 --> 00:59:22.905
Yeah.

1032
00:59:24.405 --> 00:59:25.865
But it's all just, like,

1033
00:59:27.200 --> 00:59:30.579
it's it's such a piece of the puzzle. Like, you were saying how, like,

1034
00:59:31.599 --> 00:59:32.099
you

1035
00:59:32.720 --> 00:59:34.900
almost, like, choose it before you

1036
00:59:35.200 --> 00:59:36.420
you know? Mhmm.

1037
00:59:36.720 --> 00:59:39.700
Like, I I do I believe that fully is that there's,

1038
00:59:40.855 --> 00:59:44.315
like, almost, like, karmic, like, cycles that need to, like,

1039
00:59:44.935 --> 00:59:45.835
finish themselves

1040
00:59:46.375 --> 00:59:49.915
for you to, like, elevate because your next life like, you know what I mean?

1041
00:59:49.975 --> 00:59:53.275
Like, it's like every life that you have after each one.

1042
00:59:53.450 --> 00:59:57.930
And I know like, I've lived, like, probably a thousand lives. I I know I'm an old soul.

1043
00:59:57.930 --> 00:59:59.950
So I'm like, each life,

1044
01:00:00.410 --> 01:00:08.405
you know, there's, like, these karmic things that you have to, like, finish or, like, wrap up or whatever to be able to get to the next level in the next life.

1045
01:00:08.405 --> 01:00:09.065
You know?

1046
01:00:09.445 --> 01:00:09.945
Mhmm.

1047
01:00:10.405 --> 01:00:11.065
Mhmm. Yeah.

1048
01:00:12.085 --> 01:00:13.525
Yeah. I like I I like that.

1049
01:00:13.525 --> 01:00:17.464
I'm I'm wondering if there's, like, another way to look at it would be, like, what if

1050
01:00:17.765 --> 01:00:21.945
because what I'm what I'm hearing behind that a little bit I'm totally on board.

1051
01:00:22.005 --> 01:00:23.704
Also, what I'm hearing it is, like,

1052
01:00:24.119 --> 01:00:24.619
there

1053
01:00:24.920 --> 01:00:26.940
is there are things I have to work on,

1054
01:00:28.119 --> 01:00:35.420
which is like a version of, like, there's somewhere to get to, which is, like, I'm not there yet, which is, like, it's out in the future somewhere.

1055
01:00:35.559 --> 01:00:36.539
Like, now it's not

1056
01:00:36.984 --> 01:00:40.185
future in this fucking lifetime. Now it's in the future in, like, some future lifetime.

1057
01:00:40.185 --> 01:00:43.325
Like, what the fuck? You know? Holy crap. Yeah.

1058
01:00:46.345 --> 01:00:51.240
And, like, you and I both know time is just an illusion of the mind. It is an illusion. Yeah.

1059
01:00:51.320 --> 01:00:52.520
Fucking exist. Right?

1060
01:00:52.520 --> 01:00:56.140
So, like, what if there's nowhere to get to where there what if there's nothing to fix?

1061
01:00:56.440 --> 01:01:00.200
There's nothing Yeah. To heal for you either. Like, you have no more work to do.

1062
01:01:00.200 --> 01:01:03.420
I want you to get there. There's no more work for you to do.

1063
01:01:03.875 --> 01:01:05.575
There's just fucking be.

1064
01:01:06.115 --> 01:01:08.035
And then shit's gonna come up, and then we deal with that.

1065
01:01:08.035 --> 01:01:12.915
But it's not like we have to, oh, and I've done this work and that work and that work and that then I'll finally be no.

1066
01:01:12.915 --> 01:01:15.954
Fuck that. You're here. No. You're right there. Journey, not yeah.

1067
01:01:15.954 --> 01:01:17.415
It's a journey, not a destination.

1068
01:01:20.620 --> 01:01:23.340
If each life is its own self contained thing? It's like, hey.

1069
01:01:23.340 --> 01:01:28.380
I wanna experience what it feels like to be to feel not safe and not important, and I I don't matter.

1070
01:01:28.380 --> 01:01:32.220
My needs don't matter. And I'm like, there's something probably something wrong with me.

1071
01:01:32.220 --> 01:01:36.175
I'm not enough. And, like, I wanna have that experience. Like, let's go.

1072
01:01:36.175 --> 01:01:37.615
And then you have that experience.

1073
01:01:37.615 --> 01:01:41.695
And if you choose to, you can choose to experience what it's like on the other side of that.

1074
01:01:41.695 --> 01:01:43.235
What it's like to just be

1075
01:01:43.855 --> 01:01:46.435
living from Seoul. And then the next life

1076
01:01:47.049 --> 01:01:48.029
is not a continuation.

1077
01:01:48.329 --> 01:01:49.549
It's just alright.

1078
01:01:49.930 --> 01:01:54.730
Like, it's like you go you go to the movie theater and you watch, like, Mission Impossible seven or whatever.

1079
01:01:54.730 --> 01:01:58.990
You go see that movie. It's done. And then you go watch, like like, Heartland

1080
01:01:59.505 --> 01:02:02.305
series or whatever, and then you watch that thing, and then it's done.

1081
01:02:02.305 --> 01:02:06.244
And then you go watch another movie and then start like, maybe it's I don't know how it is.

1082
01:02:06.625 --> 01:02:09.105
But do you know what I'm saying? Like, instead of, like, oh, shit.

1083
01:02:09.105 --> 01:02:12.740
And there's car make, and I have to, like, work like, fuck that. Like

1084
01:02:13.280 --> 01:02:13.780
Yeah.

1085
01:02:14.400 --> 01:02:15.540
Again, like, take

1086
01:02:15.840 --> 01:02:19.780
the again, like, to yeah. No. I see what you're saying where you, like, take all

1087
01:02:20.880 --> 01:02:24.855
because, like, that's the human in us wants to create a a a container

1088
01:02:25.155 --> 01:02:29.335
or a or create rigidity around something or create a an explanation.

1089
01:02:29.475 --> 01:02:32.195
Like, we need an explanation for something. Right? Yeah.

1090
01:02:32.195 --> 01:02:37.155
That's the human in us where the soul in us is just being. It's just in like, there is no past.

1091
01:02:37.155 --> 01:02:39.830
There is no present. It's just right fucking now.

1092
01:02:40.210 --> 01:02:43.190
Yeah. Being in this moment right now, like, whatever.

1093
01:02:43.490 --> 01:02:46.930
And what if there doesn't need to be some sort of explanation for everything?

1094
01:02:46.930 --> 01:02:50.230
And just, you know, again, just, like, view everything as neutrality.

1095
01:02:51.250 --> 01:02:51.750
Yeah.

1096
01:02:52.875 --> 01:02:53.775
Yeah. Yeah.

1097
01:02:54.235 --> 01:02:54.975
It's true.

1098
01:02:55.475 --> 01:02:55.975
Amazing.

1099
01:02:56.475 --> 01:02:57.375
Yeah. Yeah.

1100
01:02:58.635 --> 01:03:12.460
And as I was sending it before, like, you're whether you want to or not, whether you care or not, but, like, you doing this work is massively healing for everybody in your in your lineage up and down and sideways, which is, I mean, another incredible gift.

1101
01:03:14.040 --> 01:03:15.180
Yeah. So many

1102
01:03:15.640 --> 01:03:16.619
souls in

1103
01:03:17.000 --> 01:03:17.500
such

1104
01:03:17.960 --> 01:03:19.180
pain, and,

1105
01:03:19.914 --> 01:03:21.775
you know, they don't deserve that.

1106
01:03:22.394 --> 01:03:25.375
Yeah. I feel that. I feel that hard. Yeah.

1107
01:03:25.914 --> 01:03:29.055
I I feel like I'm literally doing, like, the

1108
01:03:30.394 --> 01:03:30.634
the,

1109
01:03:31.930 --> 01:03:35.390
the work of, like, generations upon generations in my family.

1110
01:03:35.850 --> 01:03:37.950
You freaking are. Yeah. Yeah.

1111
01:03:39.450 --> 01:03:40.350
Yeah. Yeah.

1112
01:03:41.290 --> 01:03:41.790
Wow.

1113
01:03:42.730 --> 01:03:44.745
I feel so blessed to have

1114
01:03:45.065 --> 01:03:46.985
gotten to spend this time with you, Jenna.

1115
01:03:46.985 --> 01:03:50.925
Thank you so much for being being with me, for being so vulnerable, so beautiful,

1116
01:03:51.705 --> 01:03:52.845
willing to go there.

1117
01:03:53.385 --> 01:03:56.045
Thanks, Calvin. Thanks for, cracking me open.

1118
01:04:02.290 --> 01:04:02.790
Okay.

1119
01:04:03.570 --> 01:04:06.690
Yeah. Give me buzzed it. Let me know how this lands how how this,

1120
01:04:07.330 --> 01:04:10.150
like, resonates or ruminates over the next week or two.

1121
01:04:10.530 --> 01:04:11.030
Yep.

1122
01:04:11.810 --> 01:04:12.310
Okay.

1123
01:04:13.455 --> 01:04:15.235
Looking forward to the time.

1124
01:04:15.695 --> 01:04:16.195
Yeah.

1125
01:04:16.335 --> 01:04:20.515
And one of my thing I just wanna say, like, I I mentioned before, like, with the concept, but, like,

1126
01:04:21.215 --> 01:04:22.515
you, like, telling

1127
01:04:22.815 --> 01:04:25.715
your story and, like, sharing like you did here,

1128
01:04:26.079 --> 01:04:31.940
not in the abstract, but make it concrete, make it specific, you're gonna touch people so much more in your content

1129
01:04:32.880 --> 01:04:34.720
and in your community. Like, it's it's just

1130
01:04:36.640 --> 01:04:37.140
yeah.

1131
01:04:37.839 --> 01:04:39.700
Yeah. So much power there.

1132
01:04:40.395 --> 01:04:40.895
Yeah.

1133
01:04:41.355 --> 01:04:43.515
I do I do agree with that. I've been feeling

1134
01:04:44.155 --> 01:04:50.015
again, this whole visibility thing, it's like, there's been so many pieces that have been releasing and, like

1135
01:04:51.035 --> 01:04:51.695
Yeah. Yeah.

1136
01:04:51.835 --> 01:04:57.250
So it's definitely there's definitely a part of that where I've been working to, like, you

1137
01:04:57.710 --> 01:04:58.430
know? Mhmm.

1138
01:04:58.430 --> 01:05:03.250
So, yeah, I appreciate you saying that and acknowledging that because I do feel that inside of me.

1139
01:05:03.470 --> 01:05:06.609
I'm working my way to, like, find find that.

1140
01:05:07.230 --> 01:05:12.955
And it it's just it's just gonna come as I heal those and just release those. You know? Mhmm. So

1141
01:05:13.415 --> 01:05:14.235
Yeah. Yeah.

1142
01:05:14.695 --> 01:05:16.235
Alright. Wonderful, Jenna.

1143
01:05:16.775 --> 01:05:18.315
Thank you so much. Keep me posted.

1144
01:05:19.015 --> 01:05:23.895
Thank you. Appreciate you. See you on on the internets and on the on the Instagrams or wherever.

1145
01:05:23.895 --> 01:05:26.849
What do you post? What's your handle? What are your handles? Let's share people with you.

1146
01:05:26.849 --> 01:05:30.150
It's literally jenna underscore big energy on, Instagram.

1147
01:05:30.930 --> 01:05:31.430
Cool.

1148
01:05:31.730 --> 01:05:32.230
Great.

1149
01:05:33.170 --> 01:05:34.950
Okay. Cool. I'll follow you. Thanks, Calvin.

1150
01:05:35.250 --> 01:05:37.990
K. Have a great day. Have a beautiful Friday.