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You look back at your history, have you made any mistakes?

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Yeah.

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Lots of mistakes.

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Dumb mistakes as a father to my daughters. My ex wife left me because I was too aggressive verbally.

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The hurt that you caused for your former wife and your daughter was not what you wanted for them, but that doesn't mean that it was

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wrong

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or even not okay. That's like a moral judgment that we put on it after.

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If you had had the resources to do something else, you would have, but you didn't.

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You didn't do anything wrong. And that doesn't mean I'm condoning the behavior.

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I'm not suggesting you do it again. It wasn't wrong.

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What do you know to be true now? What do you take with you today? A new reality?

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Welcome

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to another episode of Recode Your Mind with Calvin Corelli. Super pumped today

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because I have Pierre here. And I don't know how to pronounce your name in English.

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Pihl, I'm assuming or something like that. Yeah. Yeah. So

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so yeah. So par. It looks like pair of shoes.

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Per. Oh, because you're Swedish. I'm Danish, so I do the Danish version.

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And how do you pronounce your last name?

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Hiet. So Peer. Head.

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Yeah. And and then when I'm I'm abroad, people say Peer Head, and that's known from

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because it sounds very funny.

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Dude, my name my my Danish name, the name my parents gave me was Las Holga Pin.

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And Okay. Then I moved over here and I was like, this is a nightmare. This is a freaking nightmare.

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So I changed it. So I changed my legal name,

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for that and other reasons. So that's why

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that's why a lot of people don't know I'm from Denmark.

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But if you went out here to talk about me, we're gonna talk about you. So,

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please enlighten me and our our visitor of yours here on

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who do you serve?

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What do you do for them? What's the challenge that you would like

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my help with?

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Yeah.

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So I'm a coach and NLP trainer. So I, help people to to create the state of flow on command.

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So that's that's what I do. And,

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yeah. And,

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what I wanna address is that,

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quick short background. I started 2009,

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and I have done it full time since 2021.

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so with my business before I was a salesman and all that.

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went very, very, very good. During

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I I,

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sold for

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around $300,000.

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Very cool.

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Yeah.

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Very great. And and and my strategy was, free challenges and then sell my group program.

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So that was my and I also had,

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upselling with other courses and trainings and all that.

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So so and the 2023,

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did not go as well, but, still had money much money left from 2022,

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and payment plans coming in,

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still today coming in payments from that Amazing.

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quite good, but I had, like, yeah,

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financial,

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what to say, financial,

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downfall,

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what to say.

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Mhmm. It the because,

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I I got,

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I got,

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tricked. What is I I don't Oh. Try to find English one. You're tricked about the money.

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Yeah. So so,

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and all that. You get slammed. 2525,

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like, sold kinda well, not as near as 2022,

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but kinda well. But then 2026,

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barely sold anything.

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I sold for, like,

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New Year's Eve. So it doesn't go that

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probably probably. 8,000.

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well at all now. Mhmm.

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And and a few months two months ago, I got stress symptoms, so I needed to calm, cool down.

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I had a lot of projects at the same time. And the stress symptoms are gone.

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Right. But I started to re reevaluate

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reevaluate a lot in my life, in my business, and all that,

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because of that.

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Right. I get it. That's yeah. That's that's a rough that's a very rough spot to be in. Yeah.

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So what are you doing for for are you doing something to supplement your income?

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No. I'm I'm looking for y'all to supplement my income, but,

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not right now.

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Okay. Alright.

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So, yeah, tell me what what were you doing that was working, and

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have you what have you tried?

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so when it was working,

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I I tried the same strategy afterwards. It does have best

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But but the The strategy was challenges to what was it exactly?

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You did free challenge, a paid challenge?

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Yeah. Yeah. Free challenge. So so I did, like,

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2022 and 2021. I did Facebook posts

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four four days a week and and,

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both videos and, written content and then on that.

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And I had a Facebook group that I Mhmm. And then then I had

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every two months. Mhmm.

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And and, by then, it was really easy to fill the challenges and was kinda easy to sell it as well.

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So from the selling them, were you using paid ads to fill them or just organic content?

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Organic organic. Okay.

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Cool.

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And then, What kind of person would you attract and what was their like, NLP flow, I get it.

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But is it are they

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athletes? Are they business owners? Are they professionals? Like, what are they?

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In the terms of niche, I've been very broad.

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if I look at my clients, 70%

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of women and,

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employed.

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And often, like, academics, not only, but mostly academic people,

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and social scientists,

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and and, work. And what is the specific pain that most of them have when they when they hire you?

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to to care too much for the other people think. I would say it's one big thing.

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Mhmm. For, like, 80%.

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Mhmm. Maybe not the biggest for eighty percent, but eight percent has that.

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Mind I thought think you would call it mind bug. Yes. Yeah.

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Yeah. That's right.

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So I would say that. And

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in general, to to hand

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to get rid of mind bugs in general, I would say that's my special specialty

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to to help people to really go through the inner work and and go up the other side. Totally.

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And And so what is what the the caring what other people think, what is that costing them, or what is it preventing them from doing?

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Oh, it could prevent them for for example, starting a business or or to

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it could be small choices as well to, put boundaries,

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get rid of some people in their lives that's not good for them. Right. Getting new people.

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What I'm trying what I'm what I'm fishing for here is

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and and, I know I asked it, like, what what you've tried and and since then, but what I'm just fishing for is, like, it's always when you go broad,

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it's just harder to make to get value

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from people. It just has less value and especially

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like, it's always been the case that information is free to some extent. Right?

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We had public libraries, and then we got Google, and, like, books have always been pretty cheap and and whatnot.

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Now there's AI. So people like,

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even more is just people can get the information.

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What they're really looking for is a is a guide, as a trusted guide

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that has lived the transformation that they're looking for.

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And the more that we're clear on who it is and we have a high value target, a high value avatar

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that has money

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and and acute pain

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and is willing to invest money to solve that,

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to get rid of that pain or achieve a specific outcome that they want.

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The more we can speak to something very specific, the easier it is to sell,

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and the easier it is to sell at a high price.

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Yeah. My prices, I have sold for, like,

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approximately $4,000

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for the group program. So so I have

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have high tickets, but,

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I I because I know know the stuff is not here at least. But when

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like, every time when I try to

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it tends to get even worse in my in my experience.

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For me, personally, I'm not talking about other people.

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But but but I still still know that I should do it more specific.

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Uh-huh. And worse in what way?

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Mhmm. I don't tend to sell anything. It's, like, harder to track them.

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Maybe my my message has has been too unclear or something. But

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it has gone easy until now then. So Mhmm. So Yeah. Of course. So okay. So yeah.

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Tell me what you what have you you've been doing this year?

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and one of them is on one program.

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The other one, I didn't sell anyone. And but,

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oh, man, it wasn't, like, twenty, twenty five distance. And

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I I with that amount, I I sold approximately seven or eight per

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With how many people in the challenge? With how many people in the challenge?

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Like, yeah, 20 to 30 people. Okay. And selling 70? That's that's really good.

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That's, like, a high how long is the challenge?

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before I did it because it was harder to get people to the challenges with ten days, so I shortened it

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to six days. But there's still,

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still five meetings, five Zoom meetings.

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So it's the same amount of content, but just compacted over a short amount of time? Exactly. Yeah.

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Got it. And when you made that change, did you see the your conversion go up or down?

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Or on January? The conversion was already down

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by down that was 2023.

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so I didn't notice any difference, but it was easier to get people to the challenge when I shortened it.

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Because that was a huge problem then.

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Now you get, like, most 10 people or something at the through the challenges.

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And and I also tried paid marketing, and I I feel ripped. 100 people

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sold one. It was like a lot of work and money. I I I think I went plus, like, $200

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in one Yeah. For all that work.

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Yeah. I I had a company who who who helped me.

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So what do you think what do you think the issue is?

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I think it's both strategy and and person personal.

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I tried for so long time to switch strategies, and I hired a business coach,

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in the beginning of the year. Or,

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and and she helped me, and I fixed my message. And I

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became more congruent, but still

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not not

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even not good results.

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And I tried to do a lot of inner work, but still

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same. So but when I got my stress symptoms, I just realized I can't run these challenges anymore,

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because it was too so much work, so much time and energy

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went into that for very little results. So so I I I

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I'm trying to find another strategy right now

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For it's not the challenges because

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So if you were to say just like

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yeah, what it what do you think is so you said the issue is both strategy and personal.

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Like, what would you say the issue is? What do you think the issue is?

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So hard to say.

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One answer would say I'm incongruent.

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I've been incongruent. Now I'm more congruent, but

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That's cool.

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I don't know,

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actually.

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If I'm yes. To be honest, I don't know.

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I

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should try to guess, but I tried to guess that for, like, since 2023

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on this stage. No. You're good.

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Trying a lot of things, both in the in the in the external and the internal

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on a lot of inner work and out. So Mhmm. It's Totally.

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So I feel like I'm not a stalemate or something. Yeah.

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Yeah. I hear you.

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Excuse me. Just got down

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to

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It's a good celery juice here.

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So you're saying you were incongruent, and now you're more congruent in in what way?

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Yeah. But but

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I so it's more like I'm more congruent with myself, but now I'm

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putting out less content because I get this stress stress symptoms.

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So I'll be focusing on finding a job.

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But I know that's just temporary. I I'm in my soul, I need to be

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an entrepreneur. It's like, I I can be employed for for a while.

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It's at the works I've been there before,

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But I know that

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and I want to contribute

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with my knowledge and with my

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So yeah. So the incongruencies, it was like is it a messaging incongruency?

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It's a one thing here and another thing there? Or is it I think the biggest incongruence

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that I found is, like, I'm chasing money. I'm chasing money. Chasing. Chasing. Yeah.

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And the big incongruence is that

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when I had the coaching sessions, I had the group meetings, and my and my LFP trainings, I felt alive.

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It was like, it's like I'm on on my game. And when I was in between, I felt like

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life is just flat.

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I that that was one of the

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one of my

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illuminations. Like,

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I can't live like this. It's like I hear about,

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I hear about,

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like,

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artists when they're out and they're singing and doing that.

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I've done life school, and when they're home, it feels like so I I experienced that.

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Now I feel like life is good again, personally. Financially, it's very bad.

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Personally,

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it's

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much better.

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But,

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the chasing of the money

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became incongruent.

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Chasing, chasing, say, chasing and do

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just more strategy and and try to upsell to my current clients and

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getting new clients and all that. It's like Yeah.

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And

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I I hear you. I get that.

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So if you're

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if you don't

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if the money doesn't change,

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if you don't make more money,

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what would that,

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yeah, what would that mean?

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You you mean the effects? Or how about I think about it? Okay. Both.

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So, of course, I would get a job, so that's fine. But

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I would probably

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I'm already in lots of depths depths.

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I have, like,

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almost,

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almost $75,000

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in debts Yeah. Right now. So it's pretty bad.

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So if I don't make,

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well, eventually, I I will get out of it because I've been in a worse situation strong, long time ago.

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But,

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that effects

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It's hard. I get, like, a feeling here right now and

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here in my throat and feeling my

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let's say solar plexus.

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Mhmm.

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But how to put words of it

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If I don't make money,

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one month, then I failed.

331
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Mhmm.

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You failed.

333
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Mhmm. Yeah.

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When did you learn that you could fail?

335
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When did I learn I could fail?

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In my business,

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I learned it first. I'm gonna start my business

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2009,

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and a year later, I was bankrupt.

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And I did not have any experience of settling, marketing, or anything by then.

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I did not hire an hire a mentor or anything.

342
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Mhmm. I just quit my job, and

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I was young and stupid.

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Then I really learned that I could really massively fail in my business,

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I would say.

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And when did you

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like, just, like, what was it like for peer

348
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to grow up? What was it like for you as a kid? What was your family like?

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Oh,

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okay. So long story short, my my mother was alcoholic, so Mhmm. Was mostly with my father.

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And, he was a hardworking man, construction worker,

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very loving,

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and he met a new woman after he and my mother,

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divorced.

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And, And how old were you when they separated?

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I think I was two or three years old.

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I barely remember they them being together.

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And,

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and and the new woman he he met was probably a narcissist.

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She was,

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horrible, horrible

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woman,

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to put in my leg. But,

364
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grew up with that.

365
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Didn't have anyone who who ran a business except my grandpa, my mother's side.

366
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Mhmm.

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But yeah. And and I got taught a lot of things, mind boggs about money.

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It was very

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leftist and, like, rich people are bad and they're evil and all that.

370
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I I I worked a lot with that to clear out those. But,

371
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yeah, so that's my

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And so what was it?

373
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Lot of chaos when growing up, but also a lot of great things. So it's both. Yeah.

374
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So what was it like,

375
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being around this narcissistic

376
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stepmom?

377
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Always needed to be alert,

378
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to to

379
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I think that's why I developed some of my coaching skills, my listening skills, because I will need I I I listened for her voice.

380
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What's her state right now? What's her state?

381
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Okay. K. She seems to be a good okay. I I can relax a bit. And she And if you Yeah. Yeah.

382
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If she was in bad state, then what?

383
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She didn't physically harm us, but, she

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verbally

385
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lot of

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to say

387
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a lot of, nasty comments and and,

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comments and put down me and my brother,

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and my and our father as well. So she was very

390
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and controlling,

391
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manipulative.

392
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Started

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to to

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put people against the child in the family and the bigger family.

395
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Mhmm.

396
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Yeah.

397
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Yeah. So should you know So what I'm what I'm sensing for you, Per,

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is,

399
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like,

400
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you

401
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the sense I get is that you you had

402
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to do things right

403
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or,

404
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like, you're like, if you

405
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is this right?

406
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Like, if you fucked up, if you did something wrong, then she would you like, her wrath would come over you.

407
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Is that was that kinda what it was like? Yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah.

408
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And she wouldn't forget it for a long time either. So it's not just in the moment.

409
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Right.

410
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And so if she has a good mood, you can, like, okay, kinda relax. No. Okay.

411
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But if she was in a bad mood, you're, like, hyper villager vigilant. You're like, fuck.

412
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Like, I gotta watch every move, every sound, everything I do here to not get in trouble.

413
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Is that kinda the vibe?

414
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Yeah.

415
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Yeah. Not everyday, but,

416
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probably

417
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yeah.

418
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Often

419
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enough. When she was in that mood. Right?

420
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Oh, yeah. That was yeah. And also being alert to listen what what mood is it is she? Yeah. Yeah.

421
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Yeah. Yeah.

422
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Yeah. Yeah.

423
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Yeah. And what I'm getting at is because if she was a in a bad mood, then what? Right?

424
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Then she would

425
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she would, like,

426
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verbally

427
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yell at you, like,

428
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all of that.

429
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She she could yell or just say nasty comments, but she could do do that in a good mood as well.

430
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But then it was more like passive aggressively.

431
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Okay. But but, so it was more like, okay. I will stay in my room.

432
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I would do as make the noise as possible. Yeah. Or maybe go out and and and meet some friends.

433
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And because I had a lot of friends, so that's one thing that was really good in my That's great.

434
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Yeah.

435
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So when so can you think of, like, one particular moment when she was, like, when she was, like, just jumping on you or, like, yelling at you or whatever she would do?

436
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Oh, there's so many.

437
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One particular moment.

438
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No. Not that comes to mind. I I can

439
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pick up many moments, but not one who stands out right now. Okay.

440
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How old were you when this all was going on? From, like, two, three years old till how long?

441
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Well, she she she came into my life when I was almost seven years old. Okay. Got it. Yeah. Okay.

442
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So what was it like between two and seven?

443
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So say that my mom's

444
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first, but she met a new guy who was hitting her and and, it was really, really nasty.

445
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So we Oh, man. This is intense.

446
00:24:11.465 --> 00:24:16.365
Yeah. Yeah. Thank you. So but so then me and my brother moved to our father.

447
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He he was had his life in order. He was working. He was, not an alcoholic or anything.

448
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He was very loving. I would say the years in between,

449
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the the when we moved our father and he met the new woman was great.

450
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Only fond memories from that time. Mhmm. And

451
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also sometime after he met her, he was she was really nice in the beginning.

452
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So

453
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so yeah.

454
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Yeah. Until

455
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until she moved in. Yeah. I thought yeah. We just yeah.

456
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Yeah. It seems like your dad was very, very loving, very nice, but also a pushover.

457
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Oh, yeah. He was a really

458
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big pushover. Until they got really angry, then he was screaming like,

459
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help him. Otherwise,

460
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he he was a pushover. Yeah.

461
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Yeah. Have you have you taken on some of those traits yourself?

462
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Yes. But I think I cleared most of them in my relationships, I would say.

463
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I've worked a lot with that.

464
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I bet you have. I bet you have. Yeah.

465
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Yeah. So

466
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so the sense I get was like and the sense I'm still getting from you is like

467
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you're it's like you're still

468
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monitoring

469
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yourself

470
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to get it

471
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right. Well, that's.

472
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Yeah. Yeah.

473
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Yeah.

474
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Yeah. That was a good sign. Alright.

475
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It's a lot of emotions can bring up right now. Oh, yeah.

476
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Not a bit.

477
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Yeah.

478
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Lot of controlling. Yeah.

479
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I thought I wasn't going to cry, but yeah.

480
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So

481
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yes. I am.

482
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What are you feeling?

483
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It's a mix.

484
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One way feels good to to to,

485
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to say,

486
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to acknowledge

487
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it. But it feels like

488
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So how to put virtual emotions by feel

489
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here,

490
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feeling my stomach.

491
00:27:01.565 --> 00:27:03.985
Mhmm. Feel it, like, behind the eyes,

492
00:27:04.285 --> 00:27:06.145
except, like, something to

493
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tearing up.

494
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Like here, I feel

495
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I noticed my breathing became more shallow.

496
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Yeah.

497
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Feel lost,

498
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I would say.

499
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Without it,

500
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what would I

501
00:27:31.045 --> 00:27:32.265
do without it?

502
00:27:35.045 --> 00:27:35.545
Yeah.

503
00:27:36.405 --> 00:27:37.465
It's very familiar.

504
00:27:38.530 --> 00:27:40.309
Yes. I feel like

505
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unknown ground.

506
00:27:44.130 --> 00:27:44.630
Yeah.

507
00:27:45.250 --> 00:27:46.550
It's pretty cool, actually.

508
00:27:49.010 --> 00:27:54.145
You're the first one. I've I've been coached so many times. I have no great coaches.

509
00:27:54.145 --> 00:27:56.245
You're the first who pointed that out,

510
00:27:56.705 --> 00:27:57.205
actually.

511
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I'm I'm yeah.

512
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I'm honored.

513
00:28:03.025 --> 00:28:03.525
Yeah.

514
00:28:05.230 --> 00:28:05.970
Yeah, man.

515
00:28:06.429 --> 00:28:09.009
He's such a sweet, innocent boy.

516
00:28:11.549 --> 00:28:12.929
He's so fucking sweet.

517
00:28:20.155 --> 00:28:21.695
Oh, fuck. Oh. Oh,

518
00:28:22.475 --> 00:28:24.175
okay, man. Just let it.

519
00:28:25.115 --> 00:28:27.375
You're you're so you're amazing, man.

520
00:28:28.555 --> 00:28:29.375
Thank you.

521
00:28:29.755 --> 00:28:30.255
Yeah.

522
00:28:32.330 --> 00:28:36.250
It's like feel like I'm going to start to cry, but doesn't come in a tear.

523
00:28:36.250 --> 00:28:38.110
It was a very weird feeling.

524
00:28:38.890 --> 00:28:41.150
Yeah. You can't fuck it up.

525
00:28:41.610 --> 00:28:42.830
You can't do it wrong.

526
00:28:44.685 --> 00:28:45.185
Yeah.

527
00:28:47.085 --> 00:28:49.585
It's a lot of fucking pressure for a little boy.

528
00:28:50.925 --> 00:28:51.425
Right?

529
00:28:51.805 --> 00:28:53.425
His mom was, like,

530
00:28:54.285 --> 00:28:59.585
an alcoholic mom. She's completely unpredictable. Right? And as a kid, you make it about you.

531
00:28:59.640 --> 00:29:03.923
Of course you do. And so, like, oh, shit. I gotta do it right.

532
00:29:03.923 --> 00:29:06.370
And then there's your dad and, like, whatever.

533
00:29:06.370 --> 00:29:12.183
Some good years, but then stepmom moves in and she's like, shit. Like, what are you gonna do here?

534
00:29:12.183 --> 00:29:14.415
Right? Like, the fucking pressure

535
00:29:14.795 --> 00:29:15.775
for that boy.

536
00:29:23.995 --> 00:29:27.455
Yeah. Oh, yeah. I feel soft emotions here.

537
00:29:28.210 --> 00:29:28.710
Yeah.

538
00:29:29.170 --> 00:29:29.670
Cool.

539
00:29:30.850 --> 00:29:32.490
Yeah. Haven't thought about it.

540
00:29:32.490 --> 00:29:37.990
I I hear a lot of the memories and traumas, but haven't thought about it like that.

541
00:29:38.690 --> 00:29:40.550
Yeah. Got used to the pressure.

542
00:29:41.625 --> 00:29:42.125
Yeah.

543
00:29:44.665 --> 00:29:45.485
So used.

544
00:29:54.025 --> 00:29:54.525
Yeah.

545
00:30:10.855 --> 00:30:14.315
Got it stiff in my back. It's a lot of emotions here.

546
00:30:14.695 --> 00:30:15.195
Yeah.

547
00:30:16.375 --> 00:30:17.495
Can you picture him?

548
00:30:17.495 --> 00:30:23.275
Like, pair whether it was, like, three year old or five year old or eight year old or whatever comes to mind.

549
00:30:24.160 --> 00:30:26.260
Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

550
00:30:26.960 --> 00:30:29.220
Can you see how precious he is? How innocent?

551
00:30:30.160 --> 00:30:31.060
How sweet.

552
00:30:33.200 --> 00:30:35.940
Such a caring, loving boy. Huge heart.

553
00:30:40.985 --> 00:30:42.684
Trying so fucking hard

554
00:30:44.024 --> 00:30:45.325
to get everything right.

555
00:30:55.220 --> 00:30:56.840
Can also see the pleasing,

556
00:30:57.540 --> 00:30:58.280
like, mentality

557
00:31:00.020 --> 00:31:00.920
came from that.

558
00:31:02.206 --> 00:31:02.706
That's

559
00:31:03.100 --> 00:31:03.600
a

560
00:31:03.993 --> 00:31:04.493
that's

561
00:31:04.886 --> 00:31:05.386
a

562
00:31:05.780 --> 00:31:06.280
codependency.

563
00:31:06.980 --> 00:31:12.015
We're a lot above with that. Still, pleasing part, I think is still there

564
00:31:12.395 --> 00:31:13.215
to some extent.

565
00:31:14.075 --> 00:31:16.175
Yeah. Especially in my business.

566
00:31:19.435 --> 00:31:19.935
Oh,

567
00:31:33.170 --> 00:31:36.215
Yeah. Didn't expect it to feel so much this session.

568
00:31:37.715 --> 00:31:39.655
It happens. It happens sometimes.

569
00:31:41.315 --> 00:31:43.174
What what it feel like

570
00:31:43.475 --> 00:31:44.535
if, like, if

571
00:31:46.115 --> 00:31:48.375
if there is if you couldn't fuck it up?

572
00:31:50.540 --> 00:31:50.780
Like

573
00:31:51.420 --> 00:31:52.880
I couldn't fuck it up.

574
00:31:53.340 --> 00:31:55.200
Whatever you do, you can't get it wrong.

575
00:32:03.775 --> 00:32:06.915
Again, I'm confused, so that's a good sign. Yeah.

576
00:32:09.535 --> 00:32:12.595
I think I couldn't fuck it up. I couldn't do a call.

577
00:32:16.730 --> 00:32:18.830
Then I would probably listen more

578
00:32:19.289 --> 00:32:21.230
inside in my business.

579
00:32:22.250 --> 00:32:24.990
Still still, of course, to to taking,

580
00:32:26.169 --> 00:32:28.190
great knowledge from experts, but still

581
00:32:29.044 --> 00:32:30.905
listen even more inside, go

582
00:32:31.365 --> 00:32:32.345
with my intuition.

583
00:32:33.365 --> 00:32:33.865
Mhmm.

584
00:32:35.605 --> 00:32:39.544
And if you when the times I've done that, it usually

585
00:32:40.245 --> 00:32:40.745
goes

586
00:32:41.285 --> 00:32:42.905
kinda well, kinda good

587
00:32:43.560 --> 00:32:44.460
in my

588
00:32:45.400 --> 00:32:45.900
business.

589
00:32:46.840 --> 00:32:47.340
Well,

590
00:32:50.920 --> 00:32:52.140
I just it's so

591
00:32:53.400 --> 00:32:56.780
new concept, I think. I think that way.

592
00:32:57.320 --> 00:32:59.765
I was not aware of this for

593
00:33:11.185 --> 00:33:12.405
so it's if I couldn't

594
00:33:13.105 --> 00:33:14.085
check it out.

595
00:33:25.240 --> 00:33:31.544
One way feels impossible, but still another part of me is think think it like, could I do that?

596
00:33:32.325 --> 00:33:32.825
So

597
00:33:33.445 --> 00:33:33.945
it's

598
00:33:34.565 --> 00:33:36.105
it's both at the same time.

599
00:33:43.500 --> 00:33:46.159
So when you look if you look back at your history,

600
00:33:47.179 --> 00:33:48.559
have you made any mistakes?

601
00:33:50.140 --> 00:33:50.640
Yeah.

602
00:33:51.340 --> 00:33:52.320
Lots of mistakes.

603
00:33:52.779 --> 00:33:53.840
What's an example?

604
00:33:54.555 --> 00:33:55.055
My

605
00:33:56.155 --> 00:33:58.575
business or in general? I'm Whatever.

606
00:33:59.035 --> 00:33:59.535
Anything.

607
00:34:00.315 --> 00:34:05.615
Okay. So so I've done the mistakes as a father to to my daughters. A lot of mistakes there.

608
00:34:05.995 --> 00:34:08.255
Like what? To the point Just one example.

609
00:34:09.099 --> 00:34:10.619
I I became I was

610
00:34:11.260 --> 00:34:12.639
one one example.

611
00:34:13.020 --> 00:34:18.719
Well, the biggest one is that my ex wife left me because I was too aggressive verbally, not physically.

612
00:34:18.859 --> 00:34:21.520
Verbally aggressive to her and my children.

613
00:34:21.885 --> 00:34:26.385
I worked with that, so that's not that pattern is gone. Long gone. Yeah. But

614
00:34:26.685 --> 00:34:29.105
eleven years ago, I broke the pattern. So

615
00:34:29.645 --> 00:34:35.105
so when you think it think to think to one of those moments where you were too aggressive verbally.

616
00:34:36.250 --> 00:34:38.270
Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

617
00:34:38.650 --> 00:34:41.230
In that moment, what was going on for you?

618
00:34:43.290 --> 00:34:43.790
Control.

619
00:34:44.650 --> 00:34:45.150
Right.

620
00:34:46.650 --> 00:34:47.710
I I couldn't control

621
00:34:48.295 --> 00:34:49.594
the situation myself

622
00:34:49.975 --> 00:34:53.835
Right. I would say. And and also anger issues, but but, yeah, control.

623
00:34:54.534 --> 00:34:59.115
So I would argue that if you're if you feel the need to control, it's because you're scared.

624
00:34:59.415 --> 00:35:00.555
Would that be alright?

625
00:35:01.020 --> 00:35:04.480
Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Right. Yeah. That's right.

626
00:35:07.900 --> 00:35:08.400
So

627
00:35:08.780 --> 00:35:09.280
so

628
00:35:09.820 --> 00:35:13.200
that version of you eleven years ago was just scared

629
00:35:15.745 --> 00:35:21.025
And trying to control and lashing out and being angry was the best way he knew how to deal with it.

630
00:35:21.025 --> 00:35:23.765
Because who the fuck taught him how to deal with being scared?

631
00:35:25.745 --> 00:35:26.725
Do you see that?

632
00:35:28.950 --> 00:35:31.690
So he was just doing the best he knew how to do.

633
00:35:37.030 --> 00:35:38.330
So was that a mistake?

634
00:35:41.685 --> 00:35:42.425
But the

635
00:35:44.165 --> 00:35:46.085
what what do you mean? Was it yeah.

636
00:35:46.085 --> 00:35:50.505
I mean, was it wrong of him to do the best that he knew how to do in the moment?

637
00:35:57.180 --> 00:35:59.280
Well, one one way I could say, yeah, I did

638
00:35:59.980 --> 00:36:02.460
he or I didn't know any better by now.

639
00:36:02.460 --> 00:36:05.440
I could say I could see I could see that I'm not forgiving myself.

640
00:36:05.980 --> 00:36:06.480
Yeah.

641
00:36:07.180 --> 00:36:08.000
And also,

642
00:36:08.540 --> 00:36:13.805
at the same time, see that that was not okay behavior. So so that's why I I broke the pattern.

643
00:36:13.865 --> 00:36:18.525
But, Yeah. Right. The I went to therapy and all the did all the stuff. Yeah.

644
00:36:19.145 --> 00:36:19.645
Yeah.

645
00:36:20.105 --> 00:36:22.125
What I what I argue what I what

646
00:36:23.980 --> 00:36:25.760
I in my you consider is, like,

647
00:36:26.620 --> 00:36:28.720
maybe it wasn't I know that the

648
00:36:29.420 --> 00:36:31.440
the behavior wasn't desirable.

649
00:36:31.820 --> 00:36:34.000
It's not who you want to be.

650
00:36:34.460 --> 00:36:35.440
And the consequences,

651
00:36:35.820 --> 00:36:40.925
the hurt that you caused for your your former wife and your and your daughter or your two children

652
00:36:41.464 --> 00:36:47.325
was not what you wanted for them. Right? Okay. Yeah. But that doesn't mean that it was

653
00:36:47.625 --> 00:36:48.125
wrong

654
00:36:49.780 --> 00:36:51.320
or even not okay.

655
00:36:51.780 --> 00:36:52.600
Do you get

656
00:36:53.140 --> 00:36:56.680
that? That's like a moral judgment that we put on it

657
00:36:58.340 --> 00:36:58.840
after.

658
00:37:01.220 --> 00:37:03.560
But in the moment, you didn't have a fucking choice

659
00:37:04.734 --> 00:37:08.595
because you didn't have the resources to have a choice in that moment. You just didn't.

660
00:37:16.850 --> 00:37:20.710
If you had had the resources to do something else, you would have, but you didn't.

661
00:37:26.130 --> 00:37:30.310
Agree. And, also, comes an objection in my mind says, but I shouldn't.

662
00:37:31.434 --> 00:37:33.214
But that's You feel what?

663
00:37:34.474 --> 00:37:39.454
I I I I see I agree. One part we agree and one part feel like but I should have.

664
00:37:39.994 --> 00:37:40.494
Yeah.

665
00:37:40.875 --> 00:37:44.395
But do you see how that's just the same? Right? You just you should is like

666
00:37:45.020 --> 00:37:46.800
you're applying some, like,

667
00:37:47.420 --> 00:37:49.839
like, you know better than God what should have happened.

668
00:37:50.619 --> 00:37:51.119
You

669
00:37:51.940 --> 00:37:52.440
know?

670
00:37:53.260 --> 00:37:54.000
You couldn't.

671
00:37:54.380 --> 00:37:56.240
You couldn't have done anything different.

672
00:37:57.315 --> 00:37:59.015
You couldn't because you didn't.

673
00:38:00.835 --> 00:38:02.055
Do you get this is like

674
00:38:02.755 --> 00:38:06.135
forgiveness is like I did something wrong, but I'll forgive. Right?

675
00:38:06.355 --> 00:38:08.535
What I'm saying, you didn't do anything wrong.

676
00:38:09.170 --> 00:38:13.110
And that doesn't mean I'm condoning the behavior. I'm not suggesting you do it again.

677
00:38:13.490 --> 00:38:15.350
Mhmm. But it wasn't wrong.

678
00:38:20.930 --> 00:38:21.430
Yeah.

679
00:38:25.125 --> 00:38:25.625
Yeah.

680
00:38:28.805 --> 00:38:29.305
Yeah.

681
00:38:57.615 --> 00:38:58.515
Certain seeking

682
00:38:58.975 --> 00:38:59.715
was hard

683
00:39:00.015 --> 00:39:02.275
to sink it to my body with that

684
00:39:02.850 --> 00:39:05.670
insight. I get it. You've got years. You've got decades

685
00:39:06.370 --> 00:39:07.190
of of training.

686
00:39:09.650 --> 00:39:13.850
It's okay. But I yeah. It's a lot of emotions, so I can feel Yeah.

687
00:39:14.050 --> 00:39:17.190
My solar plexus, my stomach a little bit, and the throat.

688
00:39:18.015 --> 00:39:18.515
Yeah.

689
00:39:19.255 --> 00:39:19.755
Yeah.

690
00:39:20.494 --> 00:39:20.994
Yeah.

691
00:39:24.015 --> 00:39:26.835
Man, you've never you've never done anything wrong.

692
00:39:27.855 --> 00:39:31.234
Oh, what the fuck? I'm just so fear to come.

693
00:39:41.610 --> 00:39:42.750
Okay. I can't

694
00:39:43.370 --> 00:39:44.510
more part of me

695
00:39:44.810 --> 00:39:48.405
is feel feel like yeah. Okay. From now on, I can't do it.

696
00:39:48.405 --> 00:39:51.865
I I can look at the results and learn from it, and I can do other things.

697
00:39:52.325 --> 00:39:54.745
Yeah. Something shifted now because I feel

698
00:39:55.045 --> 00:40:00.905
it's still hard a little bit to see from about my behaviors as a further bite back then. But

699
00:40:01.605 --> 00:40:03.145
I think I'm starting to

700
00:40:07.020 --> 00:40:07.520
okay.

701
00:40:08.700 --> 00:40:14.480
So it's self control more like trying things out and learn from them. And okay. So so it's

702
00:40:15.180 --> 00:40:18.000
hard to put virtue of everything, but something's happening.

703
00:40:18.865 --> 00:40:23.585
Yeah. Getting more energy in my body. It feels like Yeah. I feel it. You know what I mean? Yeah.

704
00:40:23.585 --> 00:40:24.485
It comes across.

705
00:40:25.105 --> 00:40:28.405
Yeah. I can hear my own voice. It's like yeah. Yeah. So,

706
00:40:29.755 --> 00:40:30.255
something

707
00:40:33.619 --> 00:40:39.559
it's a little bit new world to look upon, and that's Yeah. It's a completely new world. Yeah. Yeah.

708
00:40:39.700 --> 00:40:40.760
It feels like

709
00:40:41.700 --> 00:40:42.520
what is

710
00:40:44.660 --> 00:40:45.160
I

711
00:40:48.215 --> 00:40:49.035
feel like

712
00:40:50.055 --> 00:40:51.835
more more things are possible.

713
00:40:52.455 --> 00:40:52.955
Uh-huh.

714
00:40:53.735 --> 00:40:55.275
Hell, yeah. Feel like

715
00:40:57.015 --> 00:40:58.155
it can be more unconventional

716
00:40:58.615 --> 00:40:59.435
in some way.

717
00:40:59.735 --> 00:41:00.235
Yeah.

718
00:41:04.579 --> 00:41:05.880
Test things out.

719
00:41:06.980 --> 00:41:07.480
Yeah.

720
00:41:08.660 --> 00:41:09.160
Of

721
00:41:10.339 --> 00:41:11.559
course, not the liberty

722
00:41:11.940 --> 00:41:13.160
to but just

723
00:41:14.019 --> 00:41:16.039
in others of me. But or like

724
00:41:18.674 --> 00:41:20.214
k. Let's try it on

725
00:41:21.035 --> 00:41:21.974
I don't know.

726
00:41:22.515 --> 00:41:25.255
If it doesn't work, then I need to change it.

727
00:41:25.875 --> 00:41:28.214
Yeah. But but it's so Kevin,

728
00:41:28.914 --> 00:41:32.694
it's just a very new way of thinking. If you're like like,

729
00:41:34.330 --> 00:41:36.990
ah, if I in my head. And then what?

730
00:41:38.770 --> 00:41:39.270
So

731
00:41:41.050 --> 00:41:43.470
so this is like shifting philosophy

732
00:41:43.850 --> 00:41:45.790
of life. Very weird.

733
00:41:47.375 --> 00:41:47.875
Exactly.

734
00:41:48.255 --> 00:41:49.715
You're getting it. Yeah.

735
00:41:51.775 --> 00:41:53.155
I'm looking at you now. I mean,

736
00:41:54.015 --> 00:41:54.515
brothers,

737
00:41:57.135 --> 00:42:06.250
when you get when you get the recording of this at some point, like, go back and look at the difference between when we got on this call and, like, now is, like, a whole different version of you.

738
00:42:06.250 --> 00:42:07.069
It's so beautiful.

739
00:42:08.089 --> 00:42:08.589
Yeah.

740
00:42:09.690 --> 00:42:10.190
Yeah.

741
00:42:15.305 --> 00:42:16.924
You never did anything wrong.

742
00:42:18.105 --> 00:42:18.605
It's

743
00:42:19.785 --> 00:42:20.525
so weird.

744
00:42:21.785 --> 00:42:22.605
It's so weird.

745
00:42:26.664 --> 00:42:29.244
And none of what you're gonna do

746
00:42:29.625 --> 00:42:31.460
in in the future is gonna be wrong.

747
00:42:32.640 --> 00:42:34.020
You can't do anything wrong.

748
00:42:36.400 --> 00:42:40.880
Like you're saying before there was at least, of course, I'm not gonna intentionally cause harm.

749
00:42:40.880 --> 00:42:42.660
I would argue nobody intentionally

750
00:42:42.960 --> 00:42:44.180
causes harm.

751
00:42:45.545 --> 00:42:47.965
Like, you never intentionally caused harm to anyone.

752
00:42:49.545 --> 00:42:51.485
Even someone who's, like, sick enough,

753
00:42:51.785 --> 00:42:52.285
like,

754
00:42:52.825 --> 00:43:00.720
in their wiring that they get a kick out of intentionally causing harm to other people only do it because they don't know any better way to be.

755
00:43:01.280 --> 00:43:05.380
Do you know what I'm saying? No. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Like, it's it's like,

756
00:43:05.760 --> 00:43:11.780
nobody does that on purpose just for for that if it wasn't because they were already wired to, like,

757
00:43:12.880 --> 00:43:14.900
be rewarded for that or something. You know?

758
00:43:15.845 --> 00:43:17.065
It it helped me because

759
00:43:18.164 --> 00:43:22.505
it's easy when I think about other people. That's very easy to to apply that.

760
00:43:22.885 --> 00:43:24.964
Yeah. It's very new to apply to my

761
00:43:25.924 --> 00:43:27.785
I thought I applied it to myself.

762
00:43:28.420 --> 00:43:30.360
But Right. Now I realize that I haven't.

763
00:43:31.140 --> 00:43:35.880
Well, that's the thing, man. It's you can't see ourselves from outside. Yeah? Right.

764
00:43:36.580 --> 00:43:38.920
You can't read the label from inside the bottle.

765
00:43:40.100 --> 00:43:41.720
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Good metaphor.

766
00:43:42.580 --> 00:43:43.080
Yeah.

767
00:43:44.715 --> 00:43:45.215
Yeah.

768
00:43:46.075 --> 00:43:46.575
Jesus.

769
00:43:47.275 --> 00:43:47.775
What?

770
00:43:51.355 --> 00:43:54.255
I feel like this is gonna be processing for days.

771
00:43:54.955 --> 00:43:55.455
Yeah.

772
00:43:56.075 --> 00:44:00.060
Maybe even for years. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Dude, like, I

773
00:44:00.440 --> 00:44:01.420
I got this,

774
00:44:02.440 --> 00:44:03.340
little over

775
00:44:03.800 --> 00:44:04.940
two years ago.

776
00:44:05.320 --> 00:44:07.820
Literally, the day before my fiftieth birthday,

777
00:44:08.520 --> 00:44:12.040
I had a session with someone who helped me see this for me because I've done the same.

778
00:44:12.040 --> 00:44:13.455
I've been writing the same fucking

779
00:44:14.415 --> 00:44:14.915
script.

780
00:44:15.375 --> 00:44:16.435
And it was, like,

781
00:44:16.895 --> 00:44:18.355
similar to you just like,

782
00:44:18.815 --> 00:44:19.315
woah.

783
00:44:20.015 --> 00:44:24.835
What is this world? Like, this is a whole other reality that I didn't know existed.

784
00:44:25.215 --> 00:44:25.615
And so

785
00:44:26.815 --> 00:44:27.475
and then

786
00:44:28.040 --> 00:44:28.859
I just kinda went

787
00:44:29.800 --> 00:44:30.300
like,

788
00:44:30.839 --> 00:44:32.060
it kinda just, like,

789
00:44:32.440 --> 00:44:35.660
gradually went back to my old ways. And then it was, like,

790
00:44:36.200 --> 00:44:37.740
literally a year later,

791
00:44:38.760 --> 00:44:43.580
it just all came back to me in one day where I just saw a whole shit. I'm still, like,

792
00:44:43.955 --> 00:44:46.915
30 times in a day, I'm, like, catching myself.

793
00:44:46.915 --> 00:44:55.155
Oh, I walked the dog wrong or I woke up wrong or I got out of the bed wrong or I ate wrong or, like, it was, like, everything was wrong.

794
00:44:55.155 --> 00:44:58.835
Like, in a day, it was, like, thirty, forty instances of something. I was, like, finally saw that.

795
00:44:58.835 --> 00:45:00.170
I was, like, woah. Shit.

796
00:45:00.869 --> 00:45:01.849
And and then

797
00:45:02.150 --> 00:45:04.490
on Sunday night, I was at an event,

798
00:45:05.910 --> 00:45:07.670
with a coach, and he was coaching someone.

799
00:45:07.670 --> 00:45:11.930
And, like, this pattern came up again for the person in the audience. And I was like,

800
00:45:12.495 --> 00:45:15.795
I could just feel where am I still playing a version of this?

801
00:45:16.495 --> 00:45:20.115
Where's this because, like, what I noticed for me was, like, I was like,

802
00:45:20.735 --> 00:45:23.955
well, I gotta do things right so that I

803
00:45:24.415 --> 00:45:24.915
get

804
00:45:25.400 --> 00:45:31.820
my business to where I want it to go, but that's still coming from that story that I could possibly fuck up.

805
00:45:32.760 --> 00:45:33.660
Mhmm. Right.

806
00:45:34.120 --> 00:45:38.300
I need to be careful with what I do so I do it right. Like, fuck no.

807
00:45:39.400 --> 00:45:40.460
Mhmm. I don't.

808
00:45:40.895 --> 00:45:41.635
I'm gonna

809
00:45:42.095 --> 00:45:47.075
do whatever I do, and it was the only thing I could do. And we'll see what happens.

810
00:45:47.454 --> 00:45:49.315
And you know what the cool thing is?

811
00:45:50.575 --> 00:45:52.994
The worst thing that can ever happen

812
00:45:53.615 --> 00:45:54.675
is a story.

813
00:46:00.890 --> 00:46:04.670
The worst thing that can ever happen is a story or

814
00:46:05.690 --> 00:46:06.190
words

815
00:46:07.050 --> 00:46:10.605
or even sound if you really wanna get it down. So what I mean is, like,

816
00:46:11.165 --> 00:46:12.945
say you go bankrupt again.

817
00:46:13.725 --> 00:46:19.185
Say you don't make any money and you can't find a job and suddenly you find yourself on the street,

818
00:46:20.045 --> 00:46:20.545
homeless.

819
00:46:21.965 --> 00:46:24.145
Is that a problem? Is that wrong?

820
00:46:24.810 --> 00:46:28.910
It just is what it is except for the story you tell yourself about

821
00:46:29.290 --> 00:46:31.390
it. Yeah. Do you get that?

822
00:46:32.090 --> 00:46:34.490
Oh, yeah. Yeah. Baron Katie has this quote.

823
00:46:34.490 --> 00:46:38.270
She's like That that that wouldn't happen, but I I get the idea still.

824
00:46:38.795 --> 00:46:41.935
What's the worst again? Baron Kenny has a sense. She she says, like,

825
00:46:42.235 --> 00:46:42.735
aside

826
00:46:43.755 --> 00:46:46.575
aside from what you're thinking and believing, are you okay?

827
00:46:47.755 --> 00:46:48.255
I

828
00:46:49.435 --> 00:46:50.175
was like,

829
00:46:52.955 --> 00:46:53.455
yeah.

830
00:46:55.859 --> 00:46:56.760
The only thing

831
00:46:57.299 --> 00:46:58.920
that's a problem is a story.

832
00:46:59.299 --> 00:46:59.799
Yeah.

833
00:47:05.700 --> 00:47:06.200
Yeah.

834
00:47:10.145 --> 00:47:11.525
I can buy into that.

835
00:47:11.905 --> 00:47:12.405
Yeah.

836
00:47:12.865 --> 00:47:15.125
No matter what happens, you'll be fine.

837
00:47:15.825 --> 00:47:20.705
You'll you'll survive until you don't. Right? Yeah. You'll survive until you don't.

838
00:47:20.705 --> 00:47:22.085
And as long as you're alive,

839
00:47:22.480 --> 00:47:26.340
as long as you don't have a story that anything should be different, you're good.

840
00:47:28.000 --> 00:47:28.500
Right?

841
00:47:34.480 --> 00:47:35.460
I made a

842
00:47:36.835 --> 00:47:38.875
big mistake the other day, not in my business.

843
00:47:38.875 --> 00:47:42.115
It wasn't I was dating a woman, and and she she she don't

844
00:47:42.675 --> 00:47:44.855
and and we we ended the dating.

845
00:47:45.235 --> 00:47:46.135
And and I thought,

846
00:47:46.595 --> 00:47:49.480
now I feel like, okay. Yeah. So it was like feel

847
00:47:49.859 --> 00:47:51.400
like that that shifted.

848
00:47:52.660 --> 00:47:53.160
Yeah.

849
00:47:54.260 --> 00:47:54.579
So

850
00:48:08.224 --> 00:48:09.365
So funny because

851
00:48:10.224 --> 00:48:12.085
I went into the this conversation

852
00:48:12.625 --> 00:48:18.645
now in the beginning. I thought it was yeah. Because I I read your emails and I listened to the some

853
00:48:19.350 --> 00:48:24.090
to you and thought this is gonna be really good, but I did not expect this level,

854
00:48:24.390 --> 00:48:24.890
actually.

855
00:48:25.510 --> 00:48:30.650
And and I did not expect it low. I had the high expectation, but this is oh, wow.

856
00:48:31.990 --> 00:48:35.095
I want to apply it as a coach myself. So

857
00:48:35.635 --> 00:48:36.855
Yeah. Of course.

858
00:48:37.315 --> 00:48:39.575
Please do. Yeah. Yeah.

859
00:48:40.755 --> 00:48:41.255
Wow.

860
00:48:42.595 --> 00:48:43.095
Wow.

861
00:48:44.435 --> 00:48:48.855
There's still a lot of emotions. It's like processing still. It's like For sure.

862
00:48:49.980 --> 00:48:52.720
Yeah. Dude, it's a you've been living how old are you?

863
00:48:53.740 --> 00:48:54.480
I'm 40.

864
00:48:54.780 --> 00:48:57.840
40. Yeah. You've been doing this for, you know, three and a half decades.

865
00:49:00.700 --> 00:49:01.760
Give it a minute.

866
00:49:03.174 --> 00:49:03.674
Yeah.

867
00:49:04.055 --> 00:49:05.515
Yeah. Good point.

868
00:49:06.055 --> 00:49:06.555
Yeah.

869
00:49:08.454 --> 00:49:08.954
Yeah.

870
00:49:09.575 --> 00:49:10.075
Wow.

871
00:49:13.494 --> 00:49:13.994
Yeah.

872
00:49:15.700 --> 00:49:19.700
It's like, you have a lot of energy in my body right now. I feel like Fuck. Yeah.

873
00:49:20.100 --> 00:49:22.440
Almost just how to sit down.

874
00:49:25.140 --> 00:49:25.960
Yeah, man.

875
00:49:26.660 --> 00:49:29.400
So you think this is gonna make you show up differently online?

876
00:49:30.395 --> 00:49:31.935
Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Definitely.

877
00:49:32.315 --> 00:49:34.974
And I got new ideas now. Yeah.

878
00:49:35.435 --> 00:49:36.895
I could niche myself

879
00:49:37.515 --> 00:49:41.035
and and and build that app that I wanted to build. And I can Oh.

880
00:49:41.035 --> 00:49:46.470
Or I can I can build it in simpler first, and I can build an app of it later or something? Mhmm.

881
00:49:46.470 --> 00:49:47.450
Because Yeah.

882
00:49:48.390 --> 00:49:53.610
That would be great to how to stop worrying about what what other people think. Yeah.

883
00:49:54.230 --> 00:49:58.970
I could just do that. I I Yeah. I could just do some recordings. I can

884
00:49:59.825 --> 00:50:02.085
use AI to to to to

885
00:50:02.944 --> 00:50:05.924
to what would you say? To to edit it and and all that.

886
00:50:06.305 --> 00:50:08.325
Yeah. Could could just do it.

887
00:50:08.625 --> 00:50:10.805
Tell me. Put this on action.

888
00:50:11.360 --> 00:50:15.060
Awesome. I could do that parallel to looking for a job because

889
00:50:15.600 --> 00:50:16.500
it's just not

890
00:50:17.040 --> 00:50:17.860
either or.

891
00:50:18.320 --> 00:50:18.820
Yeah.

892
00:50:21.440 --> 00:50:24.880
I all all already have a lot of material materials to use.

893
00:50:24.880 --> 00:50:27.255
I could just that already owns the player of platform.

894
00:50:28.454 --> 00:50:34.315
So I could just put that together and record what I need and write write what I need to write. Mhmm.

895
00:50:34.694 --> 00:50:36.555
I could probably make that work

896
00:50:37.015 --> 00:50:39.674
in one or two weeks, have it have have it up and going.

897
00:50:40.134 --> 00:50:40.634
Cool.

898
00:50:41.170 --> 00:50:45.110
Yeah. I don't need to sell high tickets all the time. I could do that.

899
00:50:45.170 --> 00:50:48.070
Then I don't need to do I don't need to do challenges.

900
00:50:48.450 --> 00:50:49.750
I could do with my,

901
00:50:50.770 --> 00:50:51.670
right, newsletter,

902
00:50:51.970 --> 00:50:53.830
some with the followers. And

903
00:50:54.130 --> 00:50:54.370
could

904
00:50:55.515 --> 00:50:56.015
Yeah.

905
00:50:56.555 --> 00:50:57.055
Yeah.

906
00:50:59.035 --> 00:50:59.535
Because

907
00:50:59.835 --> 00:51:02.174
I've been doing that for so long for

908
00:51:03.194 --> 00:51:04.795
four times in 2021,

909
00:51:04.795 --> 00:51:07.135
almost every every client has that problem.

910
00:51:07.680 --> 00:51:11.380
Yeah. Dude, and and you don't have to do a high ticket at all. Right? Like you were saying,

911
00:51:11.839 --> 00:51:15.540
like, some a very broad problem, like, caring what other people think.

912
00:51:16.000 --> 00:51:22.555
Like, sell that at a low ticket, but sell it to a ton of people because it's just something as such broad resonance.

913
00:51:22.615 --> 00:51:23.755
Everybody has that.

914
00:51:24.055 --> 00:51:25.994
Everybody has a version of that. Right? So

915
00:51:26.375 --> 00:51:28.295
so that's a perfectly great way to go.

916
00:51:28.295 --> 00:51:32.395
And then I don't know if you played with the bots and some player, but you can have the bot,

917
00:51:33.069 --> 00:51:33.569
like,

918
00:51:34.510 --> 00:51:36.930
basically train on all your existing content.

919
00:51:37.549 --> 00:51:41.329
And then that's another way, another thing that you can sell people.

920
00:51:42.910 --> 00:51:46.609
Come again? I didn't get that. Yeah. The bot the bots in some player,

921
00:51:47.045 --> 00:51:52.265
you can give it all your courses or all your content, whatever you have, PDFs, whatever you have

922
00:51:52.725 --> 00:51:58.265
as content that it can use to then and you can give it an approach, and then that can

923
00:51:58.805 --> 00:52:04.390
coach people for you. Right? So now they can use the bot to to figure out what's going on

924
00:52:04.849 --> 00:52:05.990
for them to

925
00:52:06.609 --> 00:52:10.390
where like, what's going on when they are concerned, what other people think about them.

926
00:52:10.530 --> 00:52:12.369
And then they can order themselves. Idea that

927
00:52:13.205 --> 00:52:16.185
Oh, totally. Yeah. You could do that in Zippero. I have no idea.

928
00:52:16.485 --> 00:52:19.964
You can't. Yeah. And you can use Zippero. You can sell it.

929
00:52:20.005 --> 00:52:25.625
What they want, but I did not know about that feature. Fuck yeah. That sounds great. Yeah. Do it.

930
00:52:26.325 --> 00:52:28.829
Okay. I'm gonna write that up. Yeah.

931
00:52:29.690 --> 00:52:33.930
Yeah. I and I can connect you with the team or just reach out to the team and say we talk then.

932
00:52:33.930 --> 00:52:36.190
And and, they can totally help you

933
00:52:36.490 --> 00:52:41.175
help you get that done. Thank you. I appreciate it. Yeah. Yeah. What that's that's great.

934
00:52:41.335 --> 00:52:46.075
That's very It's amazing. Yeah. I I love Sinclair, but now I love it even more.

935
00:52:47.175 --> 00:52:47.835
That's awesome.

936
00:52:48.615 --> 00:52:49.115
Yeah.

937
00:52:50.055 --> 00:52:50.555
Yeah.

938
00:52:55.650 --> 00:52:57.510
Oh, oh, oh, it's still processing

939
00:52:57.970 --> 00:52:59.349
motion, but I'm

940
00:52:59.650 --> 00:53:02.470
feeling lots of more energy. It's like coming back.

941
00:53:02.770 --> 00:53:07.830
Now it's the feeling here is gone, but now it's solar plexus is but but still feel

942
00:53:08.934 --> 00:53:11.994
energy is coming back for real. What you're feeling

943
00:53:12.535 --> 00:53:13.994
what you're feeling is you.

944
00:53:16.694 --> 00:53:17.194
Yeah.

945
00:53:17.974 --> 00:53:18.474
Yeah.

946
00:53:21.815 --> 00:53:22.315
Oh,

947
00:53:27.570 --> 00:53:29.350
You, my friend, are pure possibility.

948
00:53:31.650 --> 00:53:33.350
Thank you. Thank you. Yeah.

949
00:53:33.810 --> 00:53:34.950
It feels like

950
00:53:35.570 --> 00:53:37.270
many things are possible now.

951
00:53:37.835 --> 00:53:38.335
Yeah.

952
00:53:42.315 --> 00:53:42.815
Yeah.

953
00:53:44.954 --> 00:53:46.174
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

954
00:53:50.154 --> 00:53:51.855
Yeah. Oh, wow.

955
00:53:55.090 --> 00:54:00.790
I I I my old mindset went in. Okay. Now then I need to do everything right in a sec. Okay.

956
00:54:01.730 --> 00:54:07.030
Right. That's that's a joke for now. But I just realized that. It's like that now there it's like

957
00:54:07.755 --> 00:54:10.255
Call it the performer part and not a good performer.

958
00:54:10.875 --> 00:54:12.015
Everyone performs. So

959
00:54:12.474 --> 00:54:13.295
it's Yeah.

960
00:54:13.755 --> 00:54:18.575
I just do it. Yeah. Just do it and try it out. Yeah. I can do that.

961
00:54:19.595 --> 00:54:20.255
I can

962
00:54:22.829 --> 00:54:25.410
look at my content I already have.

963
00:54:25.710 --> 00:54:26.450
I could

964
00:54:27.069 --> 00:54:27.569
just

965
00:54:28.029 --> 00:54:29.970
add content that that's needed,

966
00:54:30.750 --> 00:54:31.569
and I could

967
00:54:32.990 --> 00:54:34.930
could figure out a way to

968
00:54:35.765 --> 00:54:38.665
market it and and sell it. And Mhmm.

969
00:54:40.165 --> 00:54:42.105
And and just find out the pain points.

970
00:54:42.565 --> 00:54:47.800
What's what what's the effect if you don't if you still care too much what other people think and all that.

971
00:54:47.800 --> 00:54:48.645
Yeah. I could

972
00:54:52.220 --> 00:54:54.619
and allow myself to push on the pain points.

973
00:54:54.619 --> 00:54:59.339
I I'm more of when I'm selling more to the and this is when you're gonna get.

974
00:54:59.339 --> 00:55:01.119
And and that's all also good, but

975
00:55:01.500 --> 00:55:04.640
I I know if I can find the pain point, it's better.

976
00:55:05.115 --> 00:55:11.295
Now I feel like I can allow myself to do that more. I don't think I fully have done that.

977
00:55:12.075 --> 00:55:14.655
I have been marketing a little bit about that, but

978
00:55:14.955 --> 00:55:15.775
but not

979
00:55:16.075 --> 00:55:19.295
close to what I can, actually. Yeah. Yeah.

980
00:55:19.539 --> 00:55:25.240
And I know that most people are motivated more what they wanna get away from. So

981
00:55:27.460 --> 00:55:28.279
I can reach

982
00:55:28.740 --> 00:55:29.480
more people.

983
00:55:30.500 --> 00:55:33.625
So put that up, put the price on it, test

984
00:55:34.005 --> 00:55:35.224
it out. Yeah.

985
00:55:36.484 --> 00:55:37.865
You can't fuck it up.

986
00:55:38.565 --> 00:55:42.345
Yeah. Exactly. That's really I really like that. I can't fuck it up.

987
00:55:42.724 --> 00:55:43.224
Yeah.

988
00:55:44.964 --> 00:55:49.890
Instead of Facebook community, I would do you wanna do the community in Simplero this time?

989
00:55:50.510 --> 00:55:53.410
Because I think that's better if I can have everything there.

990
00:55:53.870 --> 00:55:54.370
Mhmm.

991
00:55:54.750 --> 00:55:55.250
Yeah.

992
00:55:56.110 --> 00:55:56.610
Yeah.

993
00:55:57.390 --> 00:55:57.890
Oh.

994
00:55:58.670 --> 00:55:59.970
Oh, so good, my man.

995
00:56:00.670 --> 00:56:01.810
Yeah. What do you

996
00:56:02.195 --> 00:56:05.015
what do you know to be true now? What do you take with you today?

997
00:56:11.475 --> 00:56:12.375
A new reality?

998
00:56:15.475 --> 00:56:15.955
It's not

999
00:56:16.675 --> 00:56:17.415
so so

1000
00:56:18.410 --> 00:56:19.550
take with me that

1001
00:56:22.010 --> 00:56:23.470
it feels more easy.

1002
00:56:23.850 --> 00:56:26.650
No? Or or may maybe or may seem

1003
00:56:27.370 --> 00:56:28.190
what what is

1004
00:56:28.570 --> 00:56:31.150
the word? Maybe not ease, but it's more simple.

1005
00:56:31.610 --> 00:56:32.110
Simpfulness.

1006
00:56:34.405 --> 00:56:34.905
Yeah.

1007
00:56:35.285 --> 00:56:35.785
Simpiro.

1008
00:56:36.244 --> 00:56:36.905
I'm fantastic.

1009
00:56:38.345 --> 00:56:38.845
And

1010
00:56:40.285 --> 00:56:40.785
and,

1011
00:56:44.165 --> 00:56:48.869
and and also personally, both in business and personally, like, let me go

1012
00:56:49.170 --> 00:56:50.230
of this. What did you

1013
00:56:50.609 --> 00:56:51.810
moderate myself? And that's

1014
00:56:52.490 --> 00:56:55.330
Mhmm. Yeah. Cool. Alright. Yeah. That's

1015
00:56:58.290 --> 00:57:03.830
they just try that out in what in whatever I do. Just Yeah. Experience life in this

1016
00:57:05.065 --> 00:57:05.785
in this,

1017
00:57:06.985 --> 00:57:07.645
new perspective,

1018
00:57:08.345 --> 00:57:09.245
I would say.

1019
00:57:09.785 --> 00:57:10.285
Yeah.

1020
00:57:10.825 --> 00:57:11.325
So

1021
00:57:11.625 --> 00:57:12.125
yeah.

1022
00:57:14.585 --> 00:57:16.365
Amazing, man. Thank you so much.

1023
00:57:16.960 --> 00:57:21.220
Thank you, Calvin. I really, really appreciate this. Thank you so much.

1024
00:57:21.760 --> 00:57:25.540
My pleasure, man. Awesome. It's wonderful to see and to witness.

1025
00:57:25.840 --> 00:57:30.660
Yeah. Keep me posted. Send me an email. Let me know what's transpires over the next week or so.

1026
00:57:30.954 --> 00:57:32.255
Yeah. Yeah. I will. I

1027
00:57:32.635 --> 00:57:36.255
will. Okay. Oh, my. Oh, my. My god. This was amazing.

1028
00:57:38.555 --> 00:57:39.375
Alright. You're

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you're you're you're really good at this.

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Yeah. And and that is

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chilling. I'm underselling you by saying that so that's

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thank you my friend my my brother. Thank you so much. Yeah. Yeah. Thank you.

