WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.839 --> 00:00:06.137 Hello, everybody. My name is Calvin. And with me here today, I have the wonderful, inimitable, 2 00:00:07.036 --> 00:00:08.016 my Disney 3 00:00:08.574 --> 00:00:09.954 - Hello, Mike. - Hello. 4 00:00:10.333 --> 00:00:15.211 - Hello, Kevin. Alright. - Hi. This is so so great. I've been looking forward to this. 5 00:00:15.211 --> 00:00:20.088 Actually, we we've been trying to set this up for for how long now 6 months at least, I think. 6 00:00:20.788 --> 00:00:24.966 - Yeah. At least. Yes. - And then finally, you were like, okay. I'm ready to 7 00:00:25.804 --> 00:00:30.142 take the next step in my business and and give up the clinic and give up the live sessions 8 00:00:30.522 --> 00:00:36.509 and and only do online stuff, and I'm ready to do this webinar now. So I'm very grateful for that. 9 00:00:36.509 --> 00:00:38.728 Thank you so much, Mike, for doing this. 10 00:00:39.747 --> 00:00:42.646 - Thank you for letting me be in on this first. 11 00:00:43.145 --> 00:00:43.645 It's 12 00:00:44.204 --> 00:00:47.623 - It's really big for me. So - Awesome. - This is 1 blinking. 13 00:00:48.043 --> 00:00:52.860 - Alright. Well, thank you. It's a huge scoop for everybody here to hear my my signed up 14 00:00:53.459 --> 00:00:54.559 for Zen Billing. 15 00:00:55.578 --> 00:00:56.518 When was it? 16 00:00:56.937 --> 00:00:58.237 2 years ago, at least? 17 00:00:59.176 --> 00:01:02.275 - 2 years from about 4 months ago or something like that. Yeah. 18 00:01:02.344 --> 00:01:08.442 - And I remember I remember you just bursting onto the onto my support inbox and with a a ton of questions. 19 00:01:09.021 --> 00:01:11.080 And it was awesome. But 20 00:01:11.929 --> 00:01:19.746 my second question will just ask all the questions and it's great because then she gets all the answers and she gets shit done and and and the result you can see here. 21 00:01:20.384 --> 00:01:20.884 Today 22 00:01:21.624 --> 00:01:22.363 an impressive 23 00:01:23.183 --> 00:01:24.322 feat that she has accomplished 24 00:01:24.942 --> 00:01:26.242 and a real trailblazer 25 00:01:26.741 --> 00:01:31.058 in in the field in Denmark. And I'm sure soon in the wide world. 26 00:01:31.918 --> 00:01:32.197 So 27 00:01:32.877 --> 00:01:34.057 - Well, I hope so. 28 00:01:35.494 --> 00:01:40.432 - What I'd like everybody here on the call tonight to do is first to go into my's 29 00:01:40.932 --> 00:01:47.088 website, which is myvismann dot com, I'm gonna put it in the chat room if I can figure out how to do that like that. 30 00:01:47.228 --> 00:01:48.727 So that's the link to my 31 00:01:49.387 --> 00:01:50.566 website in English. 32 00:01:51.044 --> 00:01:54.882 And I highly encourage you to check that out and sign up for for her list. 33 00:01:54.882 --> 00:01:58.369 She's got like good advice for everybody who's in a relationship, which is 34 00:01:59.049 --> 00:02:04.946 most of us, and I suppose, to people who would like to be in a relationship to or have had have been in a relationship. 35 00:02:05.126 --> 00:02:09.413 So I think pretty much everybody can appreciate and benefit from her advice advice. 36 00:02:09.472 --> 00:02:14.170 So go in there and and check out her site, and you can see what she looks like. 37 00:02:15.739 --> 00:02:16.479 And then 38 00:02:16.819 --> 00:02:17.319 also, 39 00:02:17.658 --> 00:02:19.677 I highly recommend that you 40 00:02:20.896 --> 00:02:25.044 go to zen billing dot com. I'm gonna post that link for you as well. 41 00:02:25.304 --> 00:02:29.042 And then go and sign up for an account right away. If you click 42 00:02:29.382 --> 00:02:31.201 the big button that says see pricing, 43 00:02:32.049 --> 00:02:35.428 free sign up. It also says no credit card required. 44 00:02:35.808 --> 00:02:38.626 So you can click the button that says start your free trial 45 00:02:39.006 --> 00:02:39.506 and 46 00:02:39.925 --> 00:02:45.712 and doesn't really matter which when you click, just click any 1 of them and then enter your 47 00:02:46.572 --> 00:02:48.290 name and email and 48 00:02:48.929 --> 00:02:54.147 the country you're in and what 9 plus 9 is? I can tell you right now the answer is [CVV_1]. 49 00:02:55.166 --> 00:03:03.592 If just if I don't have that there, then there's gonna like, all there are all kinds of bots that create accounts, but this seems to scare them away away just enough. 50 00:03:05.490 --> 00:03:09.858 And and So there's no you don't sign up for anything. You don't like, are you're not 51 00:03:10.477 --> 00:03:13.955 on the hook for anything. You don't need any credit card. You don't owe me any money. 52 00:03:13.955 --> 00:03:16.604 You don't have to do anything with this account. Ever. 53 00:03:17.064 --> 00:03:18.124 But it's a great 54 00:03:19.183 --> 00:03:25.120 tool for you to have tonight to be able to look at your own account on Zen Billing because Emma is gonna show you 55 00:03:25.609 --> 00:03:34.874 because in building the interface, how it looks, what she's doing with it, and being able to just, like, click around a little bit and see what it is for yourself, as she's doing that is gonna be hugely beneficial. 56 00:03:35.174 --> 00:03:36.594 So go and do that 57 00:03:36.933 --> 00:03:37.713 right now. 58 00:03:38.892 --> 00:03:39.392 Yes. 59 00:03:39.732 --> 00:03:40.411 Click the link. 60 00:03:40.411 --> 00:03:45.489 Click the button to pricing and sign up, and then create your very own Zoom billing account. 61 00:03:46.228 --> 00:03:49.786 Alright. And it doesn't there is a let me just get this out of the way. 62 00:03:49.786 --> 00:03:51.726 In terms of Zoom billing Zoom billing, it's 63 00:03:52.334 --> 00:03:53.234 free forever 64 00:03:53.574 --> 00:03:58.511 as long as you don't actually, you know, use it for your business, which means specifically 65 00:03:59.251 --> 00:04:00.830 that that you can do 66 00:04:01.889 --> 00:04:05.707 you can kick the tires and create your course and set everything up. 67 00:04:05.807 --> 00:04:11.384 And you can take as long as you want, like 10 years if you wanted to. And not pay a single cent. 68 00:04:11.603 --> 00:04:16.681 The moment you wanna start to actually send emails or take orders, those 2 things. 69 00:04:16.681 --> 00:04:20.799 Send out emails to your lists or take orders from your customers, then 70 00:04:21.218 --> 00:04:22.678 I need your credit card 71 00:04:23.777 --> 00:04:26.916 frozen billing and then the charging starts. So there is nothing 72 00:04:27.294 --> 00:04:28.814 lost by creating your account today. 73 00:04:28.814 --> 00:04:36.910 And then even if you know you're not gonna use it for the next 6 months, it doesn't cost you anything just that you're gonna get a little bit more familiar with it today. 74 00:04:36.999 --> 00:04:38.699 And get more value out of 75 00:04:39.678 --> 00:04:40.738 this evening together. 76 00:04:41.717 --> 00:04:42.937 So I think that's 77 00:04:43.516 --> 00:04:44.296 the formalities 78 00:04:44.636 --> 00:04:45.374 out of the way. 79 00:04:46.774 --> 00:04:47.794 High again, my. 80 00:04:48.293 --> 00:04:49.713 And welcome. Thank you. 81 00:04:52.251 --> 00:04:54.550 So why don't you tell us a little bit about 82 00:04:55.399 --> 00:04:57.579 where you're at today and and 83 00:04:57.918 --> 00:05:03.216 and this big milestone that I just attended at that that you've crossed, and and what it took to get here? 84 00:05:03.924 --> 00:05:08.862 - Yeah. Well, actually, I just closed down my clinic, my physical clinic and 85 00:05:09.561 --> 00:05:12.220 and going hundred percent online. 86 00:05:13.829 --> 00:05:15.248 It has really, really 87 00:05:16.108 --> 00:05:17.767 taken a lot of thoughts because 88 00:05:18.866 --> 00:05:21.045 I love my inspiration and get from our clients. 89 00:05:21.524 --> 00:05:22.024 But 90 00:05:22.404 --> 00:05:25.383 last year, about a 10 months ago, 91 00:05:27.641 --> 00:05:28.901 I looked at my notebook 92 00:05:29.989 --> 00:05:32.568 I could see that I had about a hundred and 50 93 00:05:33.587 --> 00:05:37.485 work titles for articles and blogs and newsletters. 94 00:05:37.974 --> 00:05:39.914 And I was just like, okay, 95 00:05:40.453 --> 00:05:42.832 I'm sitting here every week doing 96 00:05:43.212 --> 00:05:44.551 what I'm best at. 97 00:05:46.010 --> 00:05:46.630 And I'm 98 00:05:47.239 --> 00:05:48.619 actually only giving 99 00:05:49.118 --> 00:05:53.417 those people here what I can do. And I have all these amazing ideas. 100 00:05:53.436 --> 00:05:59.302 I have all these I have all this content in my head from my newsletters and my blogs and and and new 101 00:05:59.722 --> 00:06:03.190 online workshops, but I can't get the time. Mhmm. So 102 00:06:04.339 --> 00:06:08.118 about September last year of again thinking about closing down the clinic, 103 00:06:08.777 --> 00:06:09.917 at least for a period. 104 00:06:12.104 --> 00:06:12.604 Because 105 00:06:13.064 --> 00:06:18.361 I really need to to focus online. And the Saturday I actually did and it was 106 00:06:19.379 --> 00:06:22.598 as it always is when I make big big leaps, 107 00:06:23.257 --> 00:06:23.897 it's very 108 00:06:24.817 --> 00:06:30.013 you know, I'm I'm getting a been out of my comfort zone. That would be the nice way to to put it. 109 00:06:32.231 --> 00:06:34.611 So actually, I've had now a treat 110 00:06:35.009 --> 00:06:35.829 whole workdays 111 00:06:36.289 --> 00:06:41.766 without plans and just working online and working on articles soon and blog posts and like that. 112 00:06:41.766 --> 00:06:42.586 And it is 113 00:06:42.924 --> 00:06:44.944 It's really great. Sure. It's really, 114 00:06:45.563 --> 00:06:51.420 - really great. Yeah. - Cool. So in, like, just to get people an idea of of your business, so your 115 00:06:51.959 --> 00:07:01.974 your work kind of your 1 on 1 work, the kind of work that you've given up has primarily been relationship counseling with with couples in a room together talking through their issues. 116 00:07:01.974 --> 00:07:02.794 Is that it? 117 00:07:03.653 --> 00:07:04.393 - Yeah. Actually, 118 00:07:05.052 --> 00:07:07.911 - and individual coaching also - -- - Okay. -- about 119 00:07:08.970 --> 00:07:11.779 6 times last and all that 120 00:07:12.159 --> 00:07:14.778 - and all that. - All that's the relationship stuff. Yeah. 121 00:07:16.037 --> 00:07:20.173 - Cool. - Yeah. - Yes. And so you started you started a while ago. 122 00:07:20.173 --> 00:07:24.471 I remember you telling me that, like, your first products, the first product you you made were 123 00:07:24.899 --> 00:07:25.399 were 124 00:07:26.219 --> 00:07:30.197 interviews. Right? You had someone interview you and and then you recorded that? 125 00:07:31.376 --> 00:07:35.693 - Yeah. And and actually, these days, it's about 4 years ago now. 126 00:07:37.232 --> 00:07:41.530 Yeah. And I was also, like, what's 4 years ago? But it's 127 00:07:41.869 --> 00:07:44.728 it's it's first, I got the idea and 128 00:07:45.947 --> 00:07:47.167 I got all these 129 00:07:47.667 --> 00:07:53.772 small signs, you know, I had some couples on Skype from Danish people living around the world. 130 00:07:53.772 --> 00:07:58.219 They, of course, couldn't find a relationship coach speaking Danish when they live. 131 00:07:58.259 --> 00:08:03.317 So they asked me if I could I could Skype with them. Mhmm. And then I had a a colleague, 132 00:08:04.616 --> 00:08:13.361 a a man therapist told me that he was thinking about recording some of the sessions and, you know, and I read a book in them called the 133 00:08:14.059 --> 00:08:18.437 million now thinking. Million million now thinking I think translated. 134 00:08:19.377 --> 00:08:24.734 And they also talked to the 2 girls writing this book and also talked about this 135 00:08:26.233 --> 00:08:27.252 digital products. 136 00:08:27.512 --> 00:08:33.938 And I have never heard about it before, and I tried searching and Google and Danish and nothing came up. 137 00:08:33.998 --> 00:08:37.836 So I just had, you know, what to do? Well, III 138 00:08:37.836 --> 00:08:43.392 had that as some contact at a radio, I had the given someone's reviews, and I just asked the 139 00:08:44.132 --> 00:08:49.149 the guy there. If I if I come up with the with the theme, And I give you some question. 140 00:08:49.329 --> 00:08:54.067 Could you could you ask me then? And then we could have a talk and then we could record it. 141 00:08:54.326 --> 00:08:59.093 And he was just yes, of course. And we did that. And actually, these interviews, 142 00:08:59.433 --> 00:09:00.652 they were quite long. 143 00:09:01.392 --> 00:09:03.331 So so I split them up and 144 00:09:03.671 --> 00:09:10.226 then And 3 of them are the first 3 models in my my big online workshop, but I love you, but I hate to to ask you. 145 00:09:10.226 --> 00:09:13.664 Mhmm. So it's actually quite it is still silly. Wow. 146 00:09:14.363 --> 00:09:16.802 - So it's it's kinda fun. Yeah. - Yeah. 147 00:09:16.802 --> 00:09:20.429 Interview is actually a great way to make a product because also it gives, like, 148 00:09:20.789 --> 00:09:24.148 some some some, like, musicality, if you will, some rhythm to it. 149 00:09:24.148 --> 00:09:31.613 It gets, like, it's not just your month you know, your voice, there are 2 voices, there's some dialogue, there's can add some nice dynamics to a product. 150 00:09:31.613 --> 00:09:33.473 And it's an easy way to do it. Right? 151 00:09:33.972 --> 00:09:37.650 - Yeah. Exactly. And I'm I'm I'm I'm doing it with with some of the girls. 152 00:09:37.650 --> 00:09:40.589 I'm I'm I'm mentoring about out with this online 153 00:09:40.969 --> 00:09:43.727 business, online digital product thing. 154 00:09:43.727 --> 00:09:49.454 I mean and I'm actually interviewing them because a lot of people are they they don't know when it's a start. 155 00:09:49.593 --> 00:09:50.653 It's like, you know, 156 00:09:51.113 --> 00:09:54.911 it's like thinking I wanna I wanna write a book, but we'll help you a start. Yeah. 157 00:09:54.911 --> 00:10:00.708 So so so when I tell them this, it's just like, Oh, 0, can you do that? And and can you sell it? 158 00:10:00.708 --> 00:10:05.006 There's a there's a lot you can and I actually, I prefer listening to introduce. 159 00:10:05.066 --> 00:10:08.484 I I love listening to introduce. Because it's it's so much easier. 160 00:10:08.664 --> 00:10:13.212 And and and 1 of the best things about it is that that you can you can 161 00:10:13.879 --> 00:10:17.678 you can set the scene and you can set some some some questions you like to be asked. 162 00:10:17.678 --> 00:10:22.376 But but when the person interviewing you doesn't know anything about the subject, 163 00:10:23.474 --> 00:10:24.854 he or she will automatically 164 00:10:26.353 --> 00:10:27.772 ask you the questions 165 00:10:28.112 --> 00:10:32.690 - that you take for rest of yourself. - Exactly. And and that you're And that's very cool. 166 00:10:32.939 --> 00:10:38.597 - Your customer is gonna want to answer it. Yes. - Exactly. - That's genius. Sure genius. 167 00:10:38.617 --> 00:10:43.483 That's a great tip to take to take home today. So what did you do to to 168 00:10:44.222 --> 00:10:46.141 actually sell these interviews when you started? 169 00:10:46.141 --> 00:10:49.200 What what did you do to to build an audience in the list? 170 00:10:50.409 --> 00:10:54.028 - I didn't I didn't do anything because I didn't know what to do. 171 00:10:54.727 --> 00:10:55.227 Seriously, 172 00:10:55.607 --> 00:10:59.573 when I I was product when I when I I had this interview made. 173 00:10:59.573 --> 00:11:05.511 And and and I was just like, I was standing there with the seating. I I also made them as a seating. 174 00:11:05.559 --> 00:11:06.619 And I was just like, 175 00:11:07.239 --> 00:11:09.258 okay. I've done this 1 now. 176 00:11:10.037 --> 00:11:18.203 - And then at that point, there wasn't - So let me guess, you you you took your copies of the CD and you stood in front of the supermarket and tried to sell it to people 177 00:11:18.583 --> 00:11:19.962 walking by. Is that correct? 178 00:11:20.702 --> 00:11:22.201 - No. But no. 179 00:11:22.541 --> 00:11:26.988 And I hadn't had the courage to do that. But IIII 180 00:11:26.988 --> 00:11:30.966 when I was out speaking from people, some you know, I was tired of speaking. 181 00:11:31.546 --> 00:11:33.105 I I had III 182 00:11:33.105 --> 00:11:34.094 had them with me. 183 00:11:34.974 --> 00:11:40.032 And some people bought them and and emailed me back and say, hey, this is really good stuff. 184 00:11:40.091 --> 00:11:40.751 You know? 185 00:11:41.171 --> 00:11:41.671 And 186 00:11:42.129 --> 00:11:47.227 but I couldn't give them online. There was no technology in the mic at that time. So 187 00:11:47.567 --> 00:11:48.506 when Alfred, 188 00:11:48.886 --> 00:11:49.826 the little baby, 189 00:11:50.324 --> 00:11:59.140 when he was about a half years old, I I started looking around and and I made my the the the whip man I had this time, he actually 190 00:12:00.179 --> 00:12:02.458 he he built something for me and it costs 191 00:12:03.018 --> 00:12:08.514 oh, 0 my god. I can't even begin to talk about it. It was very expensive and it didn't work 192 00:12:08.954 --> 00:12:10.334 it it really didn't work. 193 00:12:11.593 --> 00:12:14.132 And about a half years later, I 194 00:12:16.519 --> 00:12:17.979 I found second billing, 195 00:12:18.318 --> 00:12:20.377 and then I was just, oh my god. Oh 196 00:12:21.117 --> 00:12:22.976 my god. This is 197 00:12:23.675 --> 00:12:25.295 this is the answer to my question. 198 00:12:25.524 --> 00:12:34.100 And and and and that was actually the first time also when I began thinking about building a list, when I entered some building about a temporary 199 00:12:35.729 --> 00:12:38.408 2010. 200 00:12:38.408 --> 00:12:39.707 It must have been yeah. 201 00:12:40.647 --> 00:12:43.204 I had hundred and 25 people on my list. 202 00:12:43.644 --> 00:12:45.983 I had really not done anything. 203 00:12:46.123 --> 00:12:50.941 You know, it was when I was out speaking or something, I say, well, I have a newsletter that, you know, 204 00:12:51.249 --> 00:12:55.468 people say, do you have in your sleeves? Yes, I have, but I I didn't do anything with the list. 205 00:12:55.567 --> 00:13:00.125 But but now in simple, like, when I signed up for that, I could actually do something about it. 206 00:13:00.125 --> 00:13:01.914 - Right. - And that was quite interesting. 207 00:13:03.093 --> 00:13:04.572 So over the last 208 00:13:05.332 --> 00:13:05.832 yeah. 209 00:13:06.252 --> 00:13:10.528 2 years and 3, 4 months, I have built a list of over 5000 people. 210 00:13:11.947 --> 00:13:14.367 - I think that is quite good. - Yeah. Absolutely. 211 00:13:16.454 --> 00:13:21.392 - And and I'm I'm I'm using it every month now. Yeah. - Alright. 212 00:13:22.252 --> 00:13:27.708 - Very cool. Can we see your your Zimbilling account? And are you going to show us? - Yeah. You can. 213 00:13:27.708 --> 00:13:28.208 Awesome. 214 00:13:29.787 --> 00:13:30.287 - Awesome. 215 00:13:31.506 --> 00:13:32.006 Great. 216 00:13:33.814 --> 00:13:39.111 - I just see it. Yeah. This is my sibling account. - Yeah. - And this is 217 00:13:39.691 --> 00:13:42.190 actually the money I I earned this month. 218 00:13:42.599 --> 00:13:43.859 Yeah. Until now? 219 00:13:44.718 --> 00:13:45.698 - For half a month. 220 00:13:48.117 --> 00:13:52.044 - Yeah. That's pretty good. I had a I had sales going on. 221 00:13:52.484 --> 00:13:56.023 And half of the money from the sale came in this month. So that's quite good. 222 00:13:56.042 --> 00:13:58.302 And over here, I'd like to see my 223 00:13:58.721 --> 00:14:01.660 - subscriptions for the last past months. - Wow. 224 00:14:02.209 --> 00:14:02.769 That you can 225 00:14:03.409 --> 00:14:03.909 yeah. 226 00:14:04.848 --> 00:14:07.447 - And I will say this month, I have I haven't done 227 00:14:08.166 --> 00:14:09.626 I haven't actually done 228 00:14:11.184 --> 00:14:12.764 I I hadn't worked in strategies 229 00:14:13.303 --> 00:14:16.262 because I've really been focusing about closing down my clinic. 230 00:14:16.262 --> 00:14:19.120 But but as you can see, there's also a lot of unsubscribes 231 00:14:19.629 --> 00:14:21.969 - Right. - And at first, I panicked totally 232 00:14:22.908 --> 00:14:24.007 when people unsubscribe. 233 00:14:24.627 --> 00:14:29.813 But now it's just it's about 1 third that comes in, they goes out of the door, and that's okay. 234 00:14:29.913 --> 00:14:34.271 - Yeah. And and I can see some of them are coming back. So so it's quite okay. - Right. - It's 235 00:14:35.031 --> 00:14:39.149 yeah. And you can see this here. You're this is this is when 236 00:14:39.608 --> 00:14:41.188 this is when the sale -- 237 00:14:41.687 --> 00:14:42.987 - Alright. - -- - sales mail? 238 00:14:43.526 --> 00:14:44.546 - Yeah. - Yeah. 239 00:14:44.886 --> 00:14:46.804 - A lot of people - more people unsubscribe. 240 00:14:46.904 --> 00:14:51.542 - I actually saw there were some of the these not with Zendesk, - but when when you make 241 00:14:52.581 --> 00:14:53.401 - Yes. Word. 242 00:14:53.739 --> 00:14:54.999 There's some lag here. 243 00:14:56.378 --> 00:15:01.476 With other software, you actually pay per recipient you emailed to, but not with Zenbilling. 244 00:15:01.496 --> 00:15:04.383 The Zenbilling 1 price, and you can email as much as you want. 245 00:15:04.383 --> 00:15:07.982 But I remember there is 1 guy I was reading who who would everyone's in a row. 246 00:15:07.982 --> 00:15:14.267 He would write to his list and say, dude, if you're still on my list and you haven't bought anything, get the hell off. 247 00:15:14.267 --> 00:15:14.887 You know? 248 00:15:16.546 --> 00:15:17.046 - Yeah. 249 00:15:17.586 --> 00:15:19.245 Maybe I should try that too. 250 00:15:20.124 --> 00:15:24.602 - And what he said what happened, what happened was that people wouldn't unsubscribe what they would buy. 251 00:15:24.602 --> 00:15:26.062 They would start buying his stuff. 252 00:15:26.779 --> 00:15:28.079 - Yeah. That's right. 253 00:15:28.738 --> 00:15:31.677 Yeah. Actually, sometimes I do that in the in the 254 00:15:32.137 --> 00:15:36.334 the bottom note of my my broadcast and my mails. III 255 00:15:36.334 --> 00:15:40.273 say, if you don't wanna be on my list, you can unsubscribe to it because 256 00:15:40.892 --> 00:15:43.471 sometimes people don't know even though it's 257 00:15:44.029 --> 00:15:48.207 quite quite obvious. Same same billing when you get a meal from there where you can unsubscribe. 258 00:15:48.227 --> 00:15:52.324 - And I I really don't wanna have people on my list that don't want to be there. - No. No. - My 259 00:15:53.224 --> 00:15:56.942 my my my my membership club, my my big VIP membership club. 260 00:15:56.942 --> 00:15:59.761 It's when they have been there for a year, it's a year payment. 261 00:16:00.429 --> 00:16:05.167 After 11 months, they get a mail saying, hey, you know, in about 3 or 4 weeks, 262 00:16:05.707 --> 00:16:06.207 your 263 00:16:06.546 --> 00:16:08.166 your payment is going to 264 00:16:08.604 --> 00:16:13.022 to chat to him again. And if you're not going to 265 00:16:13.802 --> 00:16:17.199 to you what do you call it? You you you have to unsubscribe 266 00:16:17.938 --> 00:16:19.718 because it will charge you automatically. 267 00:16:19.817 --> 00:16:22.576 Because I don't want anyone there that that doesn't wanna be there. 268 00:16:22.576 --> 00:16:27.483 I remember what it was like to be in a club or something like that. I forgot to. 269 00:16:27.543 --> 00:16:29.522 And they were sending me a quote too. 270 00:16:30.302 --> 00:16:32.829 - Yeah. But I don't wanna do - that. Right. 271 00:16:32.829 --> 00:16:38.946 - So I only want people in buying more products that that and and being in my membership with clubs that wants free. 272 00:16:38.946 --> 00:16:39.794 Right? Yeah. 273 00:16:40.834 --> 00:16:49.668 - But this guy's point, the the 1 the story I just told, the point was he was, like, if you're if you subscribe to my list, it's because there's something that you want it to get out of it. 274 00:16:49.668 --> 00:16:54.466 And if you're not buying my stuff, then I can't really help you achieve what you want. 275 00:16:54.466 --> 00:17:00.153 - So why are you wasting your time? You know? - Yeah. Get - over the list or buy. Anyway, 276 00:17:01.092 --> 00:17:03.151 yeah, I'd like to buy that 1 day. 277 00:17:03.771 --> 00:17:04.271 Yeah. 278 00:17:05.809 --> 00:17:10.587 - Alright. - And you have to block a block about it afterwards. - Yes. Yeah. How it worked? Mhmm. 279 00:17:11.327 --> 00:17:12.505 So Yeah. 280 00:17:12.904 --> 00:17:14.284 Yeah. Can you show us, 281 00:17:15.823 --> 00:17:20.041 like, what what does the day look like for you? What do you do in here? What kind of 282 00:17:22.179 --> 00:17:25.518 campaigns or your your products? What do they look like? 283 00:17:26.737 --> 00:17:31.784 - Well, actually, the first thing I do in the morning right now and I don't wanna show you that because 284 00:17:32.324 --> 00:17:33.903 it's it's a list. 285 00:17:34.323 --> 00:17:35.663 But I am checking 286 00:17:36.322 --> 00:17:42.169 the waiting list for the next get your 6 driver bag and keep it full life. That is open up in Danish 287 00:17:42.588 --> 00:17:44.208 in the fifth of August. 288 00:17:44.388 --> 00:17:52.033 And I'm going III don't wanna click on the the link now because then you can see what who the people have assigned that and or that's pretty private. 289 00:17:52.133 --> 00:17:56.431 Okay. But but that that's actually 1 of the first thing I do in the morning. And I'm just 290 00:17:57.439 --> 00:18:00.458 So to ping out, you know, over to the right, how many subscribers 291 00:18:01.437 --> 00:18:05.355 has come and how many subscribers. It's just I'm just curious about that. 292 00:18:05.355 --> 00:18:11.192 You can see today, from yesterday and today, it's about a loan. That's that's an okay day. Yeah. 293 00:18:11.192 --> 00:18:12.092 I would say that. 294 00:18:14.089 --> 00:18:14.689 And then 295 00:18:15.888 --> 00:18:17.668 well, if I'm sending out a broadcast, 296 00:18:21.574 --> 00:18:22.794 I will go in there. 297 00:18:24.613 --> 00:18:27.272 It's a pretty slow computer I have here. I can see. 298 00:18:29.399 --> 00:18:29.899 Yeah. 299 00:18:31.278 --> 00:18:32.218 And here is 300 00:18:33.357 --> 00:18:34.417 the next newsletter. 301 00:18:35.636 --> 00:18:36.036 I have 302 00:18:36.875 --> 00:18:39.334 I wanna send out to. I have always 303 00:18:39.674 --> 00:18:45.651 so this is this is draft. The draft. So so I can always go out and see here. 304 00:18:45.820 --> 00:18:48.918 Next time I send out new letters, how many people would that be? 305 00:18:49.218 --> 00:18:53.596 - And it's just funny for me to know how many it is. - Yeah. - And 306 00:18:54.394 --> 00:18:57.213 The only you can see I have for the queue, a broadcast. 307 00:18:57.872 --> 00:19:00.919 It's the broadcast for the 2 membership clubs I have. 308 00:19:01.559 --> 00:19:02.619 VIP and 309 00:19:04.238 --> 00:19:08.516 - what you call a translated club. - Club love. Club love? - Club love. Or something like that? 310 00:19:08.516 --> 00:19:10.184 Relationship club. Yeah. 311 00:19:10.764 --> 00:19:12.743 And VIP relationships are. 312 00:19:13.962 --> 00:19:18.820 And this is the broadcast with with me. That is a Danish expert in 313 00:19:20.439 --> 00:19:21.898 aware parenting actually 314 00:19:23.158 --> 00:19:23.658 conscious 315 00:19:24.717 --> 00:19:30.403 parenting. Mhmm. And she is she is really an expert in talking about difficult 316 00:19:30.862 --> 00:19:31.362 feelings. 317 00:19:31.982 --> 00:19:38.218 So I've made a really, really good interview with her. And that is coming out the the first of July. 318 00:19:39.957 --> 00:19:40.457 - Awesome. 319 00:19:43.244 --> 00:19:45.263 - And then when I click on that, the 320 00:19:45.763 --> 00:19:46.982 body of the broadcast, 321 00:19:47.642 --> 00:19:52.100 and it says, dear first name. Welcome to July month theme. 322 00:19:52.409 --> 00:19:55.628 To cope with the difficult emotions, where I'm interviewing 323 00:19:55.968 --> 00:19:56.468 a 324 00:19:57.327 --> 00:19:58.826 med that is a psychologist. 325 00:19:59.934 --> 00:20:01.314 Working with a web parenting 326 00:20:01.653 --> 00:20:02.153 and 327 00:20:02.653 --> 00:20:03.233 a little 328 00:20:03.972 --> 00:20:05.232 chit chat for me. 329 00:20:13.557 --> 00:20:16.176 And so I'm going to the membership club I have. 330 00:20:16.934 --> 00:20:18.434 So and then again, 331 00:20:19.293 --> 00:20:20.713 I see you first of August. 332 00:20:21.812 --> 00:20:23.391 They get mail every month. 333 00:20:23.749 --> 00:20:28.747 And then they get a mail so they can download and they also get a mail that says it's it's in the the space. 334 00:20:28.747 --> 00:20:34.093 It's in the the closed online forum. And as you can see right now, I have about 211 335 00:20:34.093 --> 00:20:37.831 people in my membership club. Lots of people ask me that. And 336 00:20:39.799 --> 00:20:41.579 It's quite a mess. That membership 337 00:20:41.918 --> 00:20:42.418 club's 338 00:20:43.757 --> 00:20:46.256 money rolling down from heaven. 339 00:20:47.036 --> 00:20:47.656 It isn't 340 00:20:48.274 --> 00:20:49.854 It's it's tough work. 341 00:20:51.073 --> 00:20:58.879 And in the this is the what do you call silver version? It's slash 33 people. And this is a special 342 00:20:59.418 --> 00:21:00.438 1 I made 343 00:21:01.138 --> 00:21:02.797 where there are 2 people at 344 00:21:04.016 --> 00:21:05.654 where they can get 1 month for free. 345 00:21:05.654 --> 00:21:08.793 I don't use it anymore, but there's still 2 people that are hanging on. 346 00:21:09.013 --> 00:21:13.351 And then I have the this is from my VIP. I have 178 347 00:21:13.411 --> 00:21:14.550 members of that. 348 00:21:14.769 --> 00:21:21.506 - And - that's going to be interesting because the French of July, actually, I am going into the second year of VIP. 349 00:21:22.794 --> 00:21:27.852 Yeah. So so so now it's it's going to be fun. A little more fun. Yeah. 350 00:21:30.149 --> 00:21:34.967 - Cool. I think you're gonna like I I think I'm ready to launch tomorrow 351 00:21:35.667 --> 00:21:39.325 the the new pricing features, which would let you do things like 352 00:21:39.704 --> 00:21:40.604 make the price 353 00:21:41.144 --> 00:21:45.682 go lower year after year, for example, as a way to encourage people to stay on board. 354 00:21:46.769 --> 00:21:50.548 - Yeah. That's totally cool. I read about it. And and then I was just yes. And 355 00:21:50.967 --> 00:21:54.546 I have to say that this is 1 of the thing I love about same billing. It is that 356 00:21:54.854 --> 00:21:58.953 we can contact you, Caren, and we can we can come up with these ideas. 357 00:21:59.132 --> 00:22:03.539 And you can say, oh, well, that sounds That sounds pretty cool. I 358 00:22:03.919 --> 00:22:04.758 I work on it. 359 00:22:04.758 --> 00:22:12.614 And actually, if you work on it and then something like this come up and it's it's getting better all the 2 years happening in the same family. 360 00:22:12.913 --> 00:22:13.653 It's like 361 00:22:14.312 --> 00:22:15.292 always developing. 362 00:22:15.672 --> 00:22:20.979 Always and it's so cool. It's so cool because I feel like a part of it. I feel like 363 00:22:21.398 --> 00:22:23.178 like the things I need 364 00:22:23.557 --> 00:22:27.734 being my needs have been listening to and and and taken care of. 365 00:22:27.894 --> 00:22:34.032 And and and that is why when people say, oh, it's not quite expensive and I'm just oh, hell no. 366 00:22:34.091 --> 00:22:38.949 Let's say it's not please. It's it's really not because when I hear just about 367 00:22:39.628 --> 00:22:42.767 when I hear other people talk about their main programs 368 00:22:43.586 --> 00:22:53.131 and how much they pay and and when when they talk about the custom service and the things they want different or something like that, they can't get it. 369 00:22:53.131 --> 00:23:00.007 And I'm just like, well, I'm just I'm just going into the forum and just ask Helen and maybe he says yes, no, maybe he says no, but let's just ask. 370 00:23:00.007 --> 00:23:00.507 So 371 00:23:01.865 --> 00:23:06.203 - That that's 1 of the thing a real love person to film. - Well, I'm so glad to hear that. 372 00:23:07.102 --> 00:23:08.122 - Yeah. - Yeah. 373 00:23:10.169 --> 00:23:14.227 I I'm I'm blessed with such amazing customers, and 374 00:23:15.247 --> 00:23:16.586 I just love love 375 00:23:17.094 --> 00:23:19.194 what you are doing and and 376 00:23:19.533 --> 00:23:23.371 and my other customers and like, so I just get inspired by by the things you're doing. 377 00:23:23.371 --> 00:23:27.349 Like, as long as I understand what you're trying to achieve and why, it's like, 378 00:23:27.729 --> 00:23:30.068 awesome. Yeah. Let's see if we can make that happen. 379 00:23:30.847 --> 00:23:31.347 - Yeah. 380 00:23:33.766 --> 00:23:35.674 Mhmm. Do you wanna see a 381 00:23:37.173 --> 00:23:41.391 - a space? - Yeah. What does your whole thought look like? Yeah. That looks as you have. - Yeah. 382 00:23:41.851 --> 00:23:42.351 Yeah. 383 00:23:43.309 --> 00:23:44.489 The the VIP 384 00:23:45.028 --> 00:23:46.888 membership club is here. Mhmm. 385 00:23:47.227 --> 00:23:51.325 And and when they enter and and this is it it looks 386 00:23:51.964 --> 00:23:54.343 it looks difficult to to 387 00:23:56.922 --> 00:23:57.941 managing, but 388 00:23:58.281 --> 00:23:59.261 it really is 389 00:24:01.389 --> 00:24:03.728 This 1 they insert, they can see this little video 390 00:24:04.067 --> 00:24:06.846 with me. Well, I'm saying welcome, and I have 391 00:24:07.426 --> 00:24:08.965 written something down here. 392 00:24:09.464 --> 00:24:14.562 So they can change the username if they wanna use the the forum that is up here 393 00:24:15.381 --> 00:24:19.189 where they can talk to each other. And then here, it's possible 394 00:24:19.888 --> 00:24:21.347 means in a relationship. 395 00:24:21.967 --> 00:24:22.667 I have 396 00:24:23.126 --> 00:24:26.985 I've listed all my my products, and as you can see, it's 397 00:24:27.594 --> 00:24:28.894 It's a it's a lot. 398 00:24:29.233 --> 00:24:33.891 - Quite a list here. - Yeah. So if you wanna listen to something about yeah. Quite a list. 399 00:24:34.071 --> 00:24:37.199 A relationship, and this is where I love you, but I'm so 400 00:24:37.739 --> 00:24:39.198 freaking tired of acne. 401 00:24:40.218 --> 00:24:41.637 Quick guide for better communication. 402 00:24:42.336 --> 00:24:43.516 There are 3 transformational 403 00:24:44.136 --> 00:24:45.555 tools that would stop 404 00:24:45.935 --> 00:24:46.435 discussion, 405 00:24:47.004 --> 00:24:52.122 And, you know, I'm sorry how to say sorry, the truth about how you you 406 00:24:53.401 --> 00:24:55.020 how can how to say that, Colin, 407 00:24:55.400 --> 00:24:56.420 the truth about 408 00:24:58.468 --> 00:25:03.106 getting the relationship in in good shape again when you have hurt your your girlfriend or your boyfriend. 409 00:25:03.106 --> 00:25:04.686 Mhmm. There's something about 410 00:25:05.714 --> 00:25:07.374 families and, you know, 411 00:25:07.993 --> 00:25:10.892 there's a specific clause here that I know 412 00:25:11.581 --> 00:25:12.531 a lot of 413 00:25:14.039 --> 00:25:19.316 - What do you I don't know the name, but in when you give birth, Chachaz - -- Mhmm. 414 00:25:19.316 --> 00:25:23.284 - -- - the the lady helping you out with that. - What's the the midway 415 00:25:24.044 --> 00:25:24.544 - And 416 00:25:25.003 --> 00:25:31.141 the yes. The mid web a lot of midwives has asked me if they could use this specific course when they 417 00:25:31.689 --> 00:25:33.509 they teach parenting about 418 00:25:34.648 --> 00:25:37.127 going into this new phase of the life with a little baby. 419 00:25:37.127 --> 00:25:42.273 And I know that it's been used over hospitals and then back, let's That's awesome. Right? That cool. 420 00:25:42.273 --> 00:25:47.291 - Yeah. - Yeah. - And then there is lots awesome. So actually, people can just go in and 421 00:25:47.671 --> 00:25:50.010 hear hear about the sex life. 422 00:25:53.348 --> 00:25:53.848 There's 423 00:25:54.867 --> 00:25:55.367 interviews 424 00:25:55.827 --> 00:25:58.566 and all that stuff. And then there is 425 00:25:58.934 --> 00:26:04.192 about you. And this is more about how you feel about yourself and that's of course about 426 00:26:04.811 --> 00:26:05.311 jealousy 427 00:26:05.731 --> 00:26:06.991 and if you're single. 428 00:26:07.399 --> 00:26:13.157 And I have something about masculinity, which in the in Denmark, actually, is kind of a kind of a problem. 429 00:26:13.157 --> 00:26:13.657 Girls 430 00:26:14.454 --> 00:26:18.772 and ladies are very masculine and a lot of guys aren't. And that can 431 00:26:19.492 --> 00:26:22.591 that's that can give some problem in relationships. Mhmm. 432 00:26:23.909 --> 00:26:27.968 And then there there there's also a lot here. So if I 433 00:26:28.347 --> 00:26:30.926 show you I could show you I let you put up 434 00:26:35.893 --> 00:26:37.632 charter and content. And 435 00:26:38.931 --> 00:26:41.750 as you can see, the modules are here. 436 00:26:42.269 --> 00:26:44.289 Come let's talk to Gilles, we have. 437 00:26:44.828 --> 00:26:46.088 Hey, what's that problem? 438 00:26:46.787 --> 00:26:47.767 I love you. Let's 439 00:26:48.386 --> 00:26:49.246 stop again. 440 00:26:50.594 --> 00:26:53.413 Expect for me if I have to be a girlfriend forever. 441 00:26:54.153 --> 00:26:54.653 And 442 00:26:56.551 --> 00:26:58.331 this is this is audio modules. 443 00:26:58.490 --> 00:27:01.948 And then there is the workbook down here that they can move they can download. 444 00:27:02.288 --> 00:27:06.066 So over here, it can manage. So actually, I just push the button, 445 00:27:06.565 --> 00:27:07.305 and then 446 00:27:07.645 --> 00:27:11.873 this little something comes up. And I'm just you know, I can 447 00:27:12.492 --> 00:27:13.672 add a media file. 448 00:27:14.731 --> 00:27:19.378 This is the latest file, the 1 the interview with Meta, and I can add that. 449 00:27:19.997 --> 00:27:21.696 That just comes to cut up there, 450 00:27:22.236 --> 00:27:24.215 and I can delete it again. 451 00:27:27.223 --> 00:27:30.002 So it's it's really easy to use, I think. 452 00:27:30.262 --> 00:27:34.720 And when it when it is there and and people have access, they can go in here, Erin, 453 00:27:36.019 --> 00:27:37.758 if yeah. 24 7. 454 00:27:38.258 --> 00:27:41.776 They just have their log in and, you know, it's just it's working. 455 00:27:41.776 --> 00:27:44.275 And it's it's really good for my customers because 456 00:27:44.754 --> 00:27:46.454 lot of them like just, you know, 457 00:27:47.193 --> 00:27:52.211 locking in on their iPhone, driving to work, or maybe they have a work where they don't 458 00:27:52.590 --> 00:27:56.738 have to be on all the time. And then they can just log in and listen. 459 00:27:56.738 --> 00:28:01.436 And if you listen to the same thing twice, if you need that, then, you know, 460 00:28:02.534 --> 00:28:05.153 - Yes. - So this is what it looks like. 461 00:28:10.389 --> 00:28:14.807 That's a space. And I'm very, very easy for me to use. And and and people always 462 00:28:15.427 --> 00:28:16.526 ask me and say, 463 00:28:17.026 --> 00:28:17.766 may you just 464 00:28:18.094 --> 00:28:26.689 very technical, and I'm just, no, I'm not really I'm I'm not I've I've I've just taken some small steps, you know, I I I've learned it. 465 00:28:26.809 --> 00:28:28.029 But but but just 466 00:28:28.369 --> 00:28:31.028 1 1 step at the time, you know, kind 467 00:28:32.207 --> 00:28:34.386 of learning by fooling around and thinking 468 00:28:35.005 --> 00:28:40.092 - it's That's a - great question. - Yeah. Because I learned something and yeah. Wonderful. Right? Yeah. 469 00:28:40.092 --> 00:28:48.067 Because I learned something and and and when it's actually and and mentoring people, it's just like, But, wait, how how can we come up and and be on your level? 470 00:28:48.067 --> 00:28:51.026 And I'm just, like, well, just take the first first step. Yeah. 471 00:28:51.026 --> 00:28:56.752 You really just have to take you you the the 1 thing I always tell them is 472 00:28:57.292 --> 00:28:58.032 keep walking. 473 00:28:58.531 --> 00:29:00.990 You know, you you just have to keep walking 474 00:29:01.459 --> 00:29:07.676 - Right. - What is the next step you have to do? Then do it. And then there there is very big difference 475 00:29:08.296 --> 00:29:09.076 in being 476 00:29:09.495 --> 00:29:09.995 stressed 477 00:29:10.314 --> 00:29:11.294 and being productive. 478 00:29:12.833 --> 00:29:13.693 - Yes. - And 479 00:29:14.232 --> 00:29:15.332 actually yeah. 480 00:29:15.672 --> 00:29:19.279 But lots of people are stressed. And they are not producing anything. 481 00:29:19.618 --> 00:29:27.044 - So I had this - I had this realization just recently because I was here as you know, I live in India right now, but we're leaving India at the end of this month. 482 00:29:27.044 --> 00:29:28.744 And and so I have this wonderful 483 00:29:29.283 --> 00:29:31.082 motorcycle. I'm a complete cliche. 484 00:29:31.082 --> 00:29:36.148 I'm like 39 recently divorced and remarried, and I of course, I have a motorcycle. Right? It's yeah. 485 00:29:36.148 --> 00:29:38.887 You gotta have 1, like, almost 40. So 486 00:29:40.066 --> 00:29:44.463 so I wanted to go on a bike trip here in India on the on the motorcycle before we leave. 487 00:29:44.463 --> 00:29:47.501 And so it I, like, thought I was so stressed out. 488 00:29:47.501 --> 00:29:51.919 I had all these things going on and, like, a launch in the, like, this and all all kinds of things. 489 00:29:52.339 --> 00:29:54.018 And I was like, alright screw it. 490 00:29:54.018 --> 00:29:59.155 I'm just gonna go for 3 days and I organized my calendar so I have 3 days free. And I was like, 491 00:30:00.074 --> 00:30:02.253 there wasn't a thing that didn't 492 00:30:02.593 --> 00:30:06.211 get done that needed to get done. I got everything everything done. 493 00:30:06.351 --> 00:30:09.010 And I took 3 days completely out of the calendar. 494 00:30:10.319 --> 00:30:15.336 And had I been home working? I would have been stressing over all the things I had to do. Right? 495 00:30:15.356 --> 00:30:20.644 But you realize, well, it's not much, really. It's just Sometimes, it's a lot of stress. 496 00:30:21.063 --> 00:30:22.883 So, yes, I feel comfortable. 497 00:30:24.462 --> 00:30:28.198 - Exactly. And and and And the life IIII 498 00:30:28.198 --> 00:30:35.455 live today, and and what I actually tried to do, III am very proud to say that I'm actually living my dream life right now. 499 00:30:35.984 --> 00:30:42.421 - I I have decided I won't work more than 3 hours a day these days, these first weeks. - Congrats. Yeah. 500 00:30:42.421 --> 00:30:46.719 - And everything. Awesome. Thank you. Yeah. It's because I'm productive. 501 00:30:47.058 --> 00:30:49.837 So so every every day when I'm finished, 502 00:30:50.297 --> 00:30:53.064 I write a list, what do I have to do the next day? 503 00:30:53.424 --> 00:30:57.482 What is who do I have to call? What do I have to produce 504 00:30:57.862 --> 00:30:59.361 today around 2 505 00:30:59.781 --> 00:31:01.720 2 applicants to blacks for 506 00:31:02.199 --> 00:31:02.859 a big 507 00:31:03.558 --> 00:31:05.058 baby block in Denmark. 508 00:31:05.597 --> 00:31:06.097 And 509 00:31:07.157 --> 00:31:09.824 I know exactly what to do. And I have 510 00:31:10.423 --> 00:31:11.163 it's very 511 00:31:11.583 --> 00:31:13.722 very small list, but I'm being productive. 512 00:31:14.182 --> 00:31:15.281 And and that's the 513 00:31:16.679 --> 00:31:19.058 I I would I would actually say that's the the 514 00:31:19.597 --> 00:31:25.774 the most important thing in in in my success is that that I'm doing something that that 515 00:31:26.334 --> 00:31:29.313 maybe give results or maybe not, but I'm doing something. 516 00:31:29.692 --> 00:31:30.892 I'm producing something. 517 00:31:30.892 --> 00:31:39.906 That could be newsletter, that could be article, that could be for for other blocks, that could be for my own blocks, that could be I'm giving a x and j, give a radio interview also. 518 00:31:39.906 --> 00:31:41.206 It could be a radio interview. 519 00:31:41.825 --> 00:31:42.805 I'm doing my 520 00:31:43.224 --> 00:31:46.083 q and a on my my side, I'm doing something 521 00:31:46.902 --> 00:31:48.781 always taking 123 522 00:31:48.781 --> 00:31:53.208 - steps every day. - Right. - Because you will get there. You will get there. 523 00:31:53.348 --> 00:31:56.286 But but but 1 of the things I think that is very problematic 524 00:31:57.234 --> 00:32:01.292 and then my and actually, I have this feeling that is kinda worldwide. 525 00:32:01.752 --> 00:32:04.171 There are there are many myths about this online. 526 00:32:04.869 --> 00:32:05.929 Online life, 527 00:32:06.309 --> 00:32:07.688 if you could say an online 528 00:32:08.188 --> 00:32:08.587 product. 529 00:32:08.587 --> 00:32:13.925 So talking with 1 of my very, very good friends the other day, and and and she's actually in a mentor. 530 00:32:14.684 --> 00:32:18.303 Group right now with 1 of the the world's famous 531 00:32:20.801 --> 00:32:22.940 men doing online products. 532 00:32:23.499 --> 00:32:23.999 And 533 00:32:24.658 --> 00:32:27.717 and he he told her that not many are living 534 00:32:28.097 --> 00:32:29.756 of online pro products. 535 00:32:30.784 --> 00:32:34.083 - Right. - And and and that is that is kind of interesting because 536 00:32:35.702 --> 00:32:37.961 because that is what we all dream about. Mhmm. 537 00:32:38.460 --> 00:32:39.169 If you 538 00:32:39.769 --> 00:32:40.869 and and and 539 00:32:41.368 --> 00:32:43.308 and and it it it really sounds 540 00:32:43.807 --> 00:32:48.734 easy to do, you know. It really sounds easy and it's an easy way. It's 541 00:32:49.814 --> 00:32:55.711 and and it isn't. And and and I I when I when I went to to do my research for this 542 00:32:56.569 --> 00:33:01.927 international side. I was just like, I told my boyfriend mess, I said, oh, you know, oh my god. 543 00:33:01.927 --> 00:33:02.627 I'm going 544 00:33:03.126 --> 00:33:07.054 I'm going to look for this tomorrow. And, you know, I really 545 00:33:07.594 --> 00:33:11.052 I really think I'm going to meet lots of people doing what I'm doing, 546 00:33:11.552 --> 00:33:12.231 but I'm not 547 00:33:13.471 --> 00:33:16.939 III really can't find anyone doing what I'm doing 548 00:33:17.558 --> 00:33:19.018 the way I do it, international. 549 00:33:20.077 --> 00:33:21.936 - Right. - They can't. - You know? - So 550 00:33:22.276 --> 00:33:26.852 so So I think that that that that that that this myth about that it is easy. 551 00:33:26.852 --> 00:33:31.670 I know a lot of people starting up and, you know, making 1 digital product 552 00:33:32.359 --> 00:33:38.137 making an ebook or and and they think that that that when they've done that, it would sell itself. 553 00:33:38.596 --> 00:33:44.223 - Yeah. - And that is not correct. So so there's this myth about if you just make this product, 554 00:33:44.602 --> 00:33:45.422 you will earn 555 00:33:45.882 --> 00:33:47.529 billions and billions of dollars 556 00:33:48.089 --> 00:33:50.668 Yeah. But but but you want 557 00:33:51.048 --> 00:33:52.387 because the product 558 00:33:53.206 --> 00:33:54.904 - doesn't sell itself. - Right. 559 00:33:55.024 --> 00:33:59.562 - You have to have lots of traffic to your side, and and that you can do something about. 560 00:33:59.702 --> 00:34:04.358 But but but there there are some things And and what I see is that people 561 00:34:05.238 --> 00:34:08.976 when they first when they when they have done the digital products, they 562 00:34:09.974 --> 00:34:10.914 they are 563 00:34:11.253 --> 00:34:13.432 they are very disappointing in how 564 00:34:13.892 --> 00:34:16.151 how long time it takes for them to sell. 565 00:34:16.569 --> 00:34:24.786 And how difficult it could be to sell if you haven't haven't got a big list or you haven't got massive traffic to your side or, you know, so 566 00:34:25.364 --> 00:34:26.524 So IIIII 567 00:34:26.524 --> 00:34:30.382 - think it's about time that that that someone actually that's the truth - -- Yeah. 568 00:34:30.382 --> 00:34:32.621 - -- - to say that that that this is a lifestyle 569 00:34:33.150 --> 00:34:35.449 this is this is a way of working. 570 00:34:36.428 --> 00:34:37.687 It's it's not just 571 00:34:38.227 --> 00:34:43.784 it's not just, you know, make a little e book and sell it for a hundred crowns and 572 00:34:44.443 --> 00:34:49.181 and then you you can lean back and book a a trial to say Thailand. 573 00:34:49.601 --> 00:34:54.388 - Right. - It's not. But you have to do there are some strategies you can use and and and 574 00:34:55.407 --> 00:34:58.846 and you have to use them. You have to get traffic, and you have to make it easy for yourself. 575 00:34:58.846 --> 00:35:03.633 And that's where same building comes in. But but I get you see the dash. Now this myth about it. 576 00:35:03.732 --> 00:35:06.032 Did you know have have you met them? Kelsey? 577 00:35:06.451 --> 00:35:07.231 - Yeah. Absolutely. 578 00:35:07.690 --> 00:35:15.066 Well, I mean, there are many there are many people who profit from trying to make it sound like it's just like so easy and and almost automatic. 579 00:35:15.126 --> 00:35:19.523 No. It's it it takes there's a lot of skill set team that you need to master. Right? 580 00:35:19.523 --> 00:35:23.502 You need to know your your stuff, obviously, but you also need to understand 581 00:35:24.001 --> 00:35:25.661 how to, like, how to define 582 00:35:26.359 --> 00:35:34.336 an audience, a niche, how to reach them, how to, like, write how to write sales copy, how to write relation you know, the the stuff that you write in your newsletters. 583 00:35:35.074 --> 00:35:38.013 And how to record, how to put it up. All these things 584 00:35:38.433 --> 00:35:43.211 that you need to understand. But I think this the biggest thing and the reason I chose this 585 00:35:43.640 --> 00:35:46.139 kind of title or phrase for this 586 00:35:46.638 --> 00:35:49.177 conversation that we're having here tonight is 587 00:35:50.356 --> 00:35:52.695 what Steven Pressfield calls TurningPro. 588 00:35:53.535 --> 00:35:59.392 That you wake up your mind that you're gonna do this and you're you're you're in it as a professional, 589 00:36:00.011 --> 00:36:02.230 not as someone who's just dabbling it. 590 00:36:02.230 --> 00:36:06.128 And I think that's what has so impressed me with you that from the beginning, 591 00:36:06.787 --> 00:36:13.414 you've been like, you've you've been, you know you know, learning by fooling around but you've stuck stuck with it. 592 00:36:13.414 --> 00:36:14.653 Right? You've -- Yeah. 593 00:36:14.653 --> 00:36:21.709 -- you've written your stuff, you've you've just kept writing, kept doing interviews, kept going out there, putting yourself out there, 594 00:36:22.488 --> 00:36:24.208 putting yourself in front of an audience. 595 00:36:24.208 --> 00:36:32.622 And and I know for a fact that there have been, you know, from you that you there's been many times where it's not been so fun and where, you know, 596 00:36:33.162 --> 00:36:36.859 people have been upset with you for various reasons and and things like that. 597 00:36:36.859 --> 00:36:43.156 And you've been like, okay, that hurt a hell of a lot, but you get up the next morning and you and you chucked along. 598 00:36:43.576 --> 00:36:44.675 You continue. Right? 599 00:36:45.404 --> 00:36:45.904 - Yeah. 600 00:36:46.564 --> 00:36:50.562 Exactly. And and and and and I it it took me about 601 00:36:51.401 --> 00:36:52.981 I would say last 602 00:36:53.729 --> 00:36:56.748 Last summer, I I had enough of all these experts. 603 00:36:57.288 --> 00:36:57.788 Really, 604 00:36:58.127 --> 00:37:00.386 I was sick and tired of paying 605 00:37:01.784 --> 00:37:05.862 lots of money for people telling me what to do. And I didn't 606 00:37:06.421 --> 00:37:12.548 I I at that time, I was really working hard you know, I had my clinic. I had this workshop. 607 00:37:12.568 --> 00:37:17.386 I had to arrive every every month for for my membership tops, and and I had to 608 00:37:17.774 --> 00:37:22.272 I was really I was working my butt off, and I'm a mom too, you know. 609 00:37:22.372 --> 00:37:24.151 And I'm actually someone's girlfriend. 610 00:37:25.050 --> 00:37:25.830 So I I 611 00:37:26.649 --> 00:37:31.667 - My question - is about relationship. You're relationship - with folks. Relationship. Yes. 612 00:37:32.286 --> 00:37:35.945 And I have a little boy, and I have a big a teenager too. And, you know, 613 00:37:36.324 --> 00:37:38.244 I'm a mom, and and I was just 614 00:37:39.003 --> 00:37:41.302 I was working so hard, and I was really, 615 00:37:42.281 --> 00:37:43.301 as you call it, 616 00:37:43.699 --> 00:37:44.579 work and grow. 617 00:37:44.579 --> 00:37:51.495 I was I was I wanted to do this because I at that time, III got some mails from people, but it was not that awesome. 618 00:37:51.495 --> 00:37:51.995 And 619 00:37:52.644 --> 00:37:53.144 and 620 00:37:53.764 --> 00:37:55.883 thanking me for my online calls, you know. 621 00:37:55.883 --> 00:38:03.079 And I was just I I was sick and tired of doing all these things that people told me to do and and with very little results, 622 00:38:03.578 --> 00:38:05.598 and I got very, very upset. 623 00:38:06.137 --> 00:38:10.036 I was I I remembered so clearly, I went up and my gun 624 00:38:10.694 --> 00:38:13.913 Luckily, I live very far out on the countryside. 625 00:38:14.892 --> 00:38:16.472 And I was just screaming 626 00:38:17.051 --> 00:38:18.111 like assholes. 627 00:38:20.289 --> 00:38:22.069 I was crying and it was just 628 00:38:22.408 --> 00:38:22.908 enough. 629 00:38:23.328 --> 00:38:26.827 Enough is enough. And I remember I called my boyfriend and he's working 630 00:38:27.184 --> 00:38:31.662 in the Danish Air Force, and I was just, you know, I need to talk to you and I need to talk to you right now. 631 00:38:31.662 --> 00:38:34.881 And I was just saying, you know, I have to do this my only. 632 00:38:35.729 --> 00:38:41.906 - No more experts telling me what to do. - Yeah. - III need to do this my own way. And then I did. 633 00:38:42.595 --> 00:38:47.312 - And the funny thing is it worked. - Yeah. I think that - is so cool. 634 00:38:47.312 --> 00:38:52.419 - 1 of the 1 of the things that we tend to forget is that all of us are also customers. Right? 635 00:38:52.419 --> 00:38:59.285 We we can ask ourselves how do I wanna be spoken to? How do I wanna be marketed to? Right? Yeah. 636 00:38:59.304 --> 00:39:01.723 And and we can find a lot of answers there. 637 00:39:02.503 --> 00:39:03.402 - Yeah. Exactly. 638 00:39:03.782 --> 00:39:08.759 And and and I I was seeing myself in a position where actually had more 639 00:39:09.538 --> 00:39:13.796 knowledge about online marketing and I actually had more experience about 640 00:39:14.256 --> 00:39:17.944 - making online courses than the people trying to teach me. - Right. 641 00:39:18.284 --> 00:39:20.623 - Yes. - And and and I was just 642 00:39:21.083 --> 00:39:23.122 fuck you all. I'm sorry my language. 643 00:39:23.122 --> 00:39:29.728 But but really, I was so angry And and and our sister, I'm I'm now now I'm doing this my own way. 644 00:39:29.728 --> 00:39:34.575 And I did and I did what's so right for me and I wrote new newsletters my way. 645 00:39:34.615 --> 00:39:39.713 1 of the the big Danish guys in Denmark that has probably exported an email marketing. 646 00:39:40.252 --> 00:39:46.008 Phone phone me and and read my stuff and and and he's I I love him. He's a great guy. 647 00:39:46.008 --> 00:39:48.148 And every time I I wrote my mails 648 00:39:49.327 --> 00:39:51.066 to people, he wrote them danks. 649 00:39:52.015 --> 00:39:56.212 Maybe this is just too long. You know, people I'm gonna read this. It's too long. 650 00:39:56.212 --> 00:40:01.449 That's just well, if they don't like my style, they can just go over my list. Yes. You know, 651 00:40:01.869 --> 00:40:06.887 and and the funny thing is that it actually for about a month ago or 2III saw some 652 00:40:07.405 --> 00:40:07.905 some 653 00:40:08.604 --> 00:40:09.504 sort of block 654 00:40:10.483 --> 00:40:15.911 with some expert in the in email marketing talking about that. Now long emails are 655 00:40:16.510 --> 00:40:22.327 - that stuff. So - Oh, cool. I'm glad you guys are right very long too. - Yeah. You're right long too. 656 00:40:22.507 --> 00:40:26.653 But it's just like, you know, IIII really had I I had this 657 00:40:27.213 --> 00:40:32.870 - I had to take the power back to me - -- - Yes. - -- - and really stand in in in in in my own 658 00:40:33.250 --> 00:40:37.108 knowledge and say, this is me, and I wanna do it this way. 659 00:40:37.208 --> 00:40:43.514 - And if people wanna follow me, I would love to - Yeah. - But I have to do this in my way. 660 00:40:43.853 --> 00:40:49.510 - Yeah. - And maybe it's long emails. Maybe it's short the email. Maybe it's email where I'm cursing and 661 00:40:49.880 --> 00:40:50.899 I am. Sorry. 662 00:40:51.798 --> 00:40:58.525 And and maybe, you know, maybe, you know, when I'm joking and and but but but I need to do this my way. 663 00:40:58.724 --> 00:40:59.904 - Right. - Period. 664 00:41:00.404 --> 00:41:01.283 And that made 665 00:41:01.843 --> 00:41:06.741 - so made a change. Yeah. - That's so cool. That's so important. Thank you for sharing that. 666 00:41:08.339 --> 00:41:09.879 I just wanna ask you 667 00:41:10.298 --> 00:41:12.118 to the to the listeners here, 668 00:41:13.297 --> 00:41:14.277 if you have questions, 669 00:41:14.936 --> 00:41:22.472 type something in the box with your question and and and I can bring it up or we can bring you online and you can ask the question directly. 670 00:41:22.851 --> 00:41:25.180 But start to put your name in that box right now. 671 00:41:26.179 --> 00:41:27.298 I wanted to ask you my 672 00:41:27.938 --> 00:41:35.444 I know you can't show us the forum here because you you're not gonna you don't wanna show you know, the actual people who are in your course. 673 00:41:35.503 --> 00:41:38.102 But how do you find that the form here works? 674 00:41:38.102 --> 00:41:44.999 And and you've chosen other people many people these days put their, like, kind of, forum on Facebook and things like that. 675 00:41:45.818 --> 00:41:47.917 Can you tell us about how that works for you? 676 00:41:49.856 --> 00:41:52.195 - What kind of forum do you mean? - The forum 677 00:41:53.114 --> 00:41:55.893 The discussion forum on the as part of your club. 678 00:41:57.952 --> 00:42:00.931 - Oh, but I can show you in the I think that 679 00:42:03.499 --> 00:42:03.999 Here, 680 00:42:04.379 --> 00:42:05.318 people use 681 00:42:08.337 --> 00:42:08.837 people 682 00:42:10.176 --> 00:42:14.043 - use other names. You know, they can change their username. - Oh, okay. 683 00:42:14.043 --> 00:42:18.701 - So they're they're called in VIP. Alright. This year? - You have a lot of the discussion? 684 00:42:19.001 --> 00:42:21.580 - It's cool because you can't recognize them. - Alright. 685 00:42:22.159 --> 00:42:25.018 - Yeah. Something is happening here. - Right. 686 00:42:29.564 --> 00:42:31.784 Cool. It works as, like, you know, a private. 687 00:42:35.481 --> 00:42:38.340 Alright. Anything else that you'd like to share and show? 688 00:42:47.634 --> 00:42:50.652 I'm not hearing anything my maybe you are. 689 00:43:02.136 --> 00:43:04.435 Am I the only 1 who can't hear anything? 690 00:43:11.311 --> 00:43:13.011 Nothing. Maya, are you there? 691 00:43:13.749 --> 00:43:14.969 We're not hearing anything. 692 00:43:19.946 --> 00:43:20.886 We lost her. 693 00:43:27.333 --> 00:43:28.872 My you're gone 694 00:43:29.812 --> 00:43:32.220 offline, it says. My is offline. Damn it. 695 00:43:32.699 --> 00:43:33.199 Alright. 696 00:43:34.938 --> 00:43:35.438 Palmer, 697 00:43:36.218 --> 00:43:38.477 let's see if if she comes back online. 698 00:43:41.314 --> 00:43:42.774 Oh, there she, there she is. 699 00:43:45.592 --> 00:43:46.092 So 700 00:43:46.591 --> 00:43:47.531 while we're waiting 701 00:43:48.750 --> 00:43:50.250 for my to come back, 702 00:43:50.599 --> 00:43:53.718 - Like I said, you have questions. - Can you hear me now? - Yes. We can hear you now. 703 00:43:53.718 --> 00:43:55.537 Thanks for we missed you a lot. 704 00:43:56.357 --> 00:43:57.696 - Yeah. I missed you too. 705 00:43:59.005 --> 00:44:02.103 But I don't think you you can't see my screen now, Tanya? 706 00:44:02.723 --> 00:44:06.549 - I see I think you I see, like, from your old account or something. I don't know. 707 00:44:06.630 --> 00:44:09.208 Well, maybe I can make the new you presenter. 708 00:44:10.667 --> 00:44:11.167 - Okay. 709 00:44:12.107 --> 00:44:13.834 - I think I can. There we go. 710 00:44:14.154 --> 00:44:16.014 Now new new my is presenter. 711 00:44:19.751 --> 00:44:22.709 - Robin is asking - I think I can see my step. 712 00:44:22.949 --> 00:44:29.126 - Can you tell us some of the unique ways you've put together your courses, memberships, or content that goes against the industry standard? 713 00:44:31.203 --> 00:44:33.122 - Did you get that person? - Yeah. I would say 714 00:44:33.722 --> 00:44:35.062 yeah. I I use 715 00:44:35.681 --> 00:44:36.621 expert interviews 716 00:44:37.440 --> 00:44:38.340 very much. 717 00:44:39.069 --> 00:44:39.569 - Mhmm. 718 00:44:39.828 --> 00:44:43.727 - I would say I would I have 3 months with the experience of you, so I'm gonna make a house myself. 719 00:44:46.014 --> 00:44:51.112 And I am I am I when when I say interview and meetings of you, I I'm not 720 00:44:52.611 --> 00:44:54.910 I'm not cutting something out. 721 00:44:55.319 --> 00:44:59.057 I I like the the flow that comes to a minute to you, and it's just, 722 00:44:59.717 --> 00:45:00.377 you know, 723 00:45:01.316 --> 00:45:06.653 I I always tell the people I answered you just just talk and, you know, don't don't 724 00:45:07.672 --> 00:45:10.011 don't imagine someone's listening. And 725 00:45:10.550 --> 00:45:13.398 and and and and and it's working quite well. 726 00:45:13.398 --> 00:45:18.296 And it's it's also an easy easy way to create really, really good content. 727 00:45:18.716 --> 00:45:20.095 It's really easy because 728 00:45:20.654 --> 00:45:22.193 you you the the 729 00:45:23.812 --> 00:45:27.469 - the most people love to talk about their passion. - Right. 730 00:45:28.149 --> 00:45:29.988 - And then III 731 00:45:29.988 --> 00:45:32.726 used to ask I I asked them, 732 00:45:33.346 --> 00:45:36.724 what 10 questions shall I ask you about this concept? 733 00:45:37.334 --> 00:45:39.633 So they they actually make the concept themselves. 734 00:45:40.212 --> 00:45:41.132 Yes. And then we 735 00:45:41.731 --> 00:45:44.919 - they provide - the questions. - Because they know what they want. Yeah. 736 00:45:44.919 --> 00:45:47.778 They they know what what they wanna talk about. Specific. 737 00:45:48.117 --> 00:45:53.013 - And what they experience is the problem specific, and I'm learning really much about it. - Right. 738 00:45:53.013 --> 00:45:59.910 - So I'm interviewing them over Skype and recording it and, you know, and and I would say that when I do the expert interviews, it's 739 00:46:00.538 --> 00:46:01.678 it takes me about 740 00:46:02.697 --> 00:46:03.197 maximum 741 00:46:03.697 --> 00:46:04.597 5 hours 742 00:46:05.256 --> 00:46:06.276 to to have 743 00:46:06.695 --> 00:46:10.143 - 1 theme, 1 month. Attraction. - That was very cool. 744 00:46:10.143 --> 00:46:13.641 Robin has a follow-up, which is, do you pay your experts for the interview? 745 00:46:14.661 --> 00:46:15.411 No. No. 746 00:46:16.729 --> 00:46:20.747 - No. Mhmm. - I have III have asked them some some of them 747 00:46:21.606 --> 00:46:25.373 when I started out, I didn't quite see myself as an expert. 748 00:46:27.632 --> 00:46:36.518 So I was just like, oh, can I I want I I would like to pay you and put people they they didn't want money would just they were so happy that I would use them 749 00:46:37.337 --> 00:46:41.276 and use their knowledge and spread their knowledge? So so now I'm not no. 750 00:46:41.474 --> 00:46:45.532 - And it's part of marketing it's marketing for them as well as well. Right? 751 00:46:46.392 --> 00:46:49.211 - I - mean Yeah. Really much. And and and lots of them 752 00:46:50.359 --> 00:46:52.538 you know, in the VIP membership club, 753 00:46:54.357 --> 00:46:54.857 the 754 00:46:55.197 --> 00:46:59.215 theme of the month, it's it's it's it's staying there. So if they have 755 00:46:59.974 --> 00:47:02.513 if they have an online course, they wanna give some 756 00:47:03.172 --> 00:47:08.350 coupon code or a special offer at a book. It it it it is there all the time. 757 00:47:08.679 --> 00:47:10.578 So they they get traffic 758 00:47:11.078 --> 00:47:11.877 from there to 759 00:47:13.037 --> 00:47:13.537 - Yes. 760 00:47:13.956 --> 00:47:18.444 And then Robin says, do I and then you sell these interviews as part of your product? Yes. Exactly. 761 00:47:18.444 --> 00:47:19.703 That's what you do. Right? 762 00:47:20.243 --> 00:47:21.322 - Yeah. Exactly. I 763 00:47:23.002 --> 00:47:27.300 my little membership club I have, where you only get the team, you don't give all 764 00:47:27.709 --> 00:47:33.426 the stuff I made. But you only get the the theme of the month. 1 of the first months, I have this 765 00:47:34.266 --> 00:47:39.433 it's about it's 2 years ago now. I made an online course about 766 00:47:39.973 --> 00:47:42.512 a theme about jealousy. Mhmm. And afterwards, 767 00:47:43.931 --> 00:47:45.630 and and there were lots of members 768 00:47:46.509 --> 00:47:51.167 I think I got a third year of order. I mean, it was because I had this theme of that, Jelis. 769 00:47:51.387 --> 00:47:56.214 And afterwards, a checklist theme, and I was thinking if I want to make make it even better. 770 00:47:56.214 --> 00:48:00.672 If I want to make this product even better, what can I do? So I interviewed a psychologist. 771 00:48:02.709 --> 00:48:05.128 About self esteem and jealousy, and I interviewed 772 00:48:06.267 --> 00:48:07.067 my colleague here. 773 00:48:07.067 --> 00:48:12.894 I mentioned before the manager appears about men and jealousy, and I interviewed a a couple of his therapist about 774 00:48:14.673 --> 00:48:15.533 the the classical 775 00:48:16.272 --> 00:48:18.531 thoughts you have when when you're jealous. 776 00:48:18.951 --> 00:48:21.050 So that's 3 expert interviews 777 00:48:22.319 --> 00:48:24.098 and an online course. 778 00:48:24.438 --> 00:48:24.938 And 779 00:48:25.597 --> 00:48:29.176 - so so there there lots of value for the money. - Right. 780 00:48:29.484 --> 00:48:34.862 - And and and and what I always think is when when this is done, it is going to be there all the time. 781 00:48:35.081 --> 00:48:35.701 You know? 782 00:48:35.921 --> 00:48:44.936 And and actually, afterwards, I have also made a a webinar where they couldn't the people that have bought this course and people on my list, they could ask me question about jealousy. 783 00:48:44.956 --> 00:48:50.293 - And I, of course, recorded it and now it's also a part of the the product. - Alright. 784 00:48:51.752 --> 00:48:55.090 Very cool. And so are you available for interviews as well? 785 00:48:57.848 --> 00:48:58.748 - If I am. 786 00:49:00.287 --> 00:49:01.706 Yeah. Yeah. Of course. 787 00:49:02.566 --> 00:49:03.066 Yeah. 788 00:49:04.005 --> 00:49:04.705 Yeah. Always. 789 00:49:05.204 --> 00:49:07.483 - Love talking about my my passion. - Yeah. 790 00:49:07.483 --> 00:49:11.241 I'm I'm just gonna go go in the record and say that I'm available for interviews as well. 791 00:49:11.241 --> 00:49:13.220 If anybody anybody that wants to do interviews. 792 00:49:14.918 --> 00:49:15.418 Yeah. 793 00:49:16.997 --> 00:49:21.994 So, like, say say that I'm like, I'm hoping this, and I have like, okay. 794 00:49:21.994 --> 00:49:26.651 I wanna I wanna do what you're doing. I wanna, like, have this build my list and I wanna 795 00:49:27.391 --> 00:49:32.097 create a club and start to sign up members. How would I do that with them? Is that billing? 796 00:49:32.097 --> 00:49:35.156 Just can you, like, give us the the super short? 797 00:49:37.524 --> 00:49:39.623 - What should I start? Let's filling 798 00:49:40.362 --> 00:49:44.140 - Oh, yeah. - Yeah. Let's, like, let's look at, you know, 799 00:49:46.069 --> 00:49:50.746 a list and you you need the list and you need the product and you need the space. Right? That's 800 00:49:51.546 --> 00:49:52.766 - Well, actually, I 801 00:49:54.284 --> 00:49:59.781 Recently, I found a a quick wait to to get a a list quick, actually. I'm I'm doing a lot of webinars 802 00:50:00.241 --> 00:50:04.748 these days. Mhmm. And free webinars And that's a really, really good way to 803 00:50:05.407 --> 00:50:07.446 - to get people on your list. - Mhmm. 804 00:50:07.446 --> 00:50:13.722 - And it's a good way to spread your knowledge and say, hey, I'm so cool and what I'm doing -- Right. 805 00:50:13.722 --> 00:50:15.401 - -- - and you can always record it. 806 00:50:15.401 --> 00:50:21.187 So so that's a way But but, yes, I would I would I would make a list and I would 807 00:50:21.806 --> 00:50:25.904 put put the link on my website and I would make a cool freebie 808 00:50:26.254 --> 00:50:27.833 - Right. - Get a pop up and 809 00:50:28.333 --> 00:50:30.752 - get people to sign up. Yeah. - Nice. 810 00:50:31.131 --> 00:50:33.031 And so the when you do the webinars, 811 00:50:33.650 --> 00:50:39.716 - you you do this screen share or you just do the voice alone and and - I only do the voice. Right. 812 00:50:39.776 --> 00:50:43.395 I am I'm I'm I'm really not good at multitasking. 813 00:50:44.004 --> 00:50:48.062 - And where do I can learn? - And where do you tell people about your webinar? 814 00:50:49.121 --> 00:50:50.261 Facebook. Facebook. 815 00:50:50.680 --> 00:50:51.740 - Okay. - Yeah. 816 00:50:52.259 --> 00:50:59.314 And and and the good thing is that even if only 10 people sign up for the webinar, I recall it. 817 00:50:59.554 --> 00:51:05.471 - Right. - And I have it. Yeah. And I can use it as a bonus from a freebie. I can use it as a freebie. 818 00:51:05.471 --> 00:51:08.689 Oh, you you 1 of the things I think that also 819 00:51:09.379 --> 00:51:15.196 a part of me being successful at what I'm doing here is that that I'm I'm I'm thinking long term strategies 820 00:51:15.536 --> 00:51:16.494 and not short term. 821 00:51:16.774 --> 00:51:24.350 I I have met lots of people, as I've told before, like membership clubs, and they're just like, well, I have to this is an easy way to make money. 822 00:51:24.899 --> 00:51:26.318 Well, it it depends 823 00:51:26.738 --> 00:51:27.957 if you if you think 824 00:51:28.537 --> 00:51:33.923 - long term, maybe it could be easy, but but not a short term. - Right. Do you - know what I mean? 825 00:51:33.923 --> 00:51:34.903 You know, it's like 826 00:51:36.402 --> 00:51:40.220 think how can I use this again? How can I do this? What can I use it for afterwards? 827 00:51:40.320 --> 00:51:42.398 What can I who can I offer it to 828 00:51:43.717 --> 00:51:44.977 reuse reuse reuse? 829 00:51:45.317 --> 00:51:46.816 - Right. Yes. Absolutely. 830 00:51:47.196 --> 00:51:48.655 And, like, yeah, like, 831 00:51:49.624 --> 00:51:57.620 it's part of the turning pro, again, is is like deciding that you're in it for the long haul, that you're you have a longer time frame. 832 00:51:57.620 --> 00:51:58.359 You're not 833 00:51:58.699 --> 00:52:00.878 You're not doing this for a quick win. 834 00:52:00.938 --> 00:52:06.275 You're doing it because this is the business you wanna do and you're willing to invest time and effort to put it together. 835 00:52:07.054 --> 00:52:08.613 - You have a Yeah. - IIII 836 00:52:08.613 --> 00:52:12.071 get I'm sure I get something because 1 of my my big products 837 00:52:24.113 --> 00:52:24.933 ask you. 838 00:52:25.473 --> 00:52:25.973 Like, 839 00:52:28.671 --> 00:52:31.530 it was like I was just thinking that I would still 840 00:52:31.879 --> 00:52:34.738 really, really much. And actually, I was crying the first 841 00:52:35.077 --> 00:52:40.215 lots of months when when it when it went to when III made a new lunch to 842 00:52:40.524 --> 00:52:44.382 2 years ago, it would be now. Yeah. But but if you look at the sale now, 843 00:52:45.561 --> 00:52:49.679 if you look at the sale and if you look at at at how much actually paid for this course, 844 00:52:51.238 --> 00:52:52.598 The first launch wasn't 845 00:52:53.197 --> 00:52:56.696 I sold 8 or 10 or something like that. But but now, 846 00:52:57.324 --> 00:52:59.183 You know? And and that's 847 00:52:59.803 --> 00:53:03.501 that's because I was so frustrated back then because I was thinking 848 00:53:03.881 --> 00:53:05.900 - short term. - Yes. - I was thinking 849 00:53:06.409 --> 00:53:10.547 I need I need money now. I was I was actually acting out of fear, 850 00:53:11.007 --> 00:53:14.665 and I was acting out of what people have just told me see that I could 851 00:53:16.034 --> 00:53:16.873 IIII 852 00:53:16.873 --> 00:53:19.732 would get and and that was that was not quite quite 853 00:53:20.231 --> 00:53:20.731 right. 854 00:53:21.031 --> 00:53:31.456 You know, people told me I would have I don't have a higher sale, but but looking back now and and selling 8 or 10 or to the the little list I actually had at that time was amazing. 855 00:53:31.675 --> 00:53:32.215 It was 856 00:53:32.684 --> 00:53:37.942 It was really amazing looking back, but back then because my expectations were so high. 857 00:53:38.121 --> 00:53:40.060 I was just I was so disappointed 858 00:53:40.449 --> 00:53:43.987 But looking now, 2 2 years later, I have I've sold 859 00:53:44.447 --> 00:53:48.785 - over 400 -- Right. - -- from work that you did 2 years ago. Right? Basically. 860 00:53:50.174 --> 00:53:54.032 - The only thing I have done with this is that I have put in some bonuses. 861 00:53:54.452 --> 00:53:54.952 - Right. 862 00:53:55.411 --> 00:53:55.611 Yeah. 863 00:53:55.611 --> 00:54:00.617 And you've You know when and you mentioned it every couple every once in a while in an email or something like that. 864 00:54:00.617 --> 00:54:01.117 Right? 865 00:54:02.736 --> 00:54:08.523 - Yeah. I I it it go you can see up here. I have sales like here. 866 00:54:09.782 --> 00:54:11.282 In May, I have sales 867 00:54:13.021 --> 00:54:15.560 and there was something here. I have some sales. 868 00:54:19.617 --> 00:54:20.957 No. This was 869 00:54:21.296 --> 00:54:24.035 this was not this was from another block. I remember 870 00:54:24.734 --> 00:54:28.952 metal blocks sold it for me. And this is for the sale, I just made 871 00:54:30.091 --> 00:54:33.939 some of pretty some sale. I just made it. So so 872 00:54:34.598 --> 00:54:38.516 so I also put it on seconds or 3 times a year, and that's that's really good, you know. 873 00:54:38.516 --> 00:54:41.335 And I make other people sell it for me as you can see. 874 00:54:42.064 --> 00:54:43.483 Get pro present affiliates. 875 00:54:43.863 --> 00:54:44.363 - Cool. 876 00:54:44.902 --> 00:54:45.922 Steve was asking, 877 00:54:46.262 --> 00:54:48.919 - is it possible to - But it is the long term. Yeah. 878 00:54:49.079 --> 00:54:53.297 - Is it possible to create a q and a session slash area for members with 879 00:54:53.836 --> 00:54:54.336 Zoomspaces? 880 00:54:54.836 --> 00:54:57.934 And I'm just gonna answer that. Yes. That is 881 00:54:58.414 --> 00:55:01.632 the forum tab that we just saw briefly before, 882 00:55:02.452 --> 00:55:05.031 that would be the q and a session area. Right? 883 00:55:06.210 --> 00:55:06.710 - Yeah. 884 00:55:07.419 --> 00:55:10.198 And also, I do in my in my in my membership. 885 00:55:12.576 --> 00:55:15.915 As you can see here, if I go under the last 886 00:55:18.273 --> 00:55:18.933 I have 887 00:55:19.632 --> 00:55:20.652 a live call 888 00:55:21.831 --> 00:55:25.130 with them, and I just used to go to webinar. And, of course, 889 00:55:25.670 --> 00:55:27.399 I recorded it. And 890 00:55:30.657 --> 00:55:33.636 you can go in here, LLC, on fidelity, 891 00:55:36.183 --> 00:55:39.842 Something about the I'm not sure if I'm homosexual. Mhmm. 892 00:55:41.061 --> 00:55:46.057 About 2 hours? And I recorded it, and then you can remembers can listen to it afterwards. 893 00:55:46.057 --> 00:55:49.415 But I used to go to go to go to webinar. Mhmm. 894 00:55:49.415 --> 00:55:54.053 - And they were just signing up from from inside the space. Yeah. - Right. Cool. 895 00:55:55.712 --> 00:55:57.291 I got a a few questions 896 00:55:58.031 --> 00:55:59.610 by email before we started. 897 00:56:00.819 --> 00:56:01.319 Yeah. 898 00:56:01.658 --> 00:56:02.718 And that is asking, 899 00:56:03.657 --> 00:56:04.677 how do you prioritize 900 00:56:05.337 --> 00:56:06.716 what you spend money 901 00:56:07.255 --> 00:56:09.043 on when you when you're starting out. 902 00:56:09.043 --> 00:56:14.101 Like, there are so many people who are who are offering, like, marketing and graphics and homepages 903 00:56:14.681 --> 00:56:19.987 - and - courses of all kinds of things. And and, like, how do you choose what to what to invest in? 904 00:56:21.526 --> 00:56:22.286 - Well, I'll 905 00:56:23.246 --> 00:56:24.145 looking back, 906 00:56:24.525 --> 00:56:25.984 I I would rather say because 907 00:56:26.494 --> 00:56:28.653 I'm I'm kinda thrilled that that when I 908 00:56:29.572 --> 00:56:31.991 I want something I want something and I buy Experian 909 00:56:32.531 --> 00:56:34.030 as I told you before. 910 00:56:35.218 --> 00:56:40.236 But but when I'm entering people now, I'm just I'm about about this online business. 911 00:56:40.416 --> 00:56:43.635 I'm just saying to them, get a simple breakfast 912 00:56:45.113 --> 00:56:46.293 Single single WordPress 913 00:56:46.633 --> 00:56:47.133 site, 914 00:56:47.632 --> 00:56:51.691 web and your content, get a q and a or broadcast access to call in Danish, 915 00:56:53.178 --> 00:56:54.358 make some good articles, 916 00:56:54.937 --> 00:56:55.437 blogs, 917 00:56:57.256 --> 00:56:58.036 and and 918 00:56:58.855 --> 00:56:59.755 and and get 919 00:57:00.814 --> 00:57:02.074 a news newsletter. 920 00:57:02.413 --> 00:57:08.671 And the easy way to make a newsletter is actually just to to say, hey, I wrote this new article on the new block. 921 00:57:08.899 --> 00:57:18.504 And then put the third a third of the the the black post in the newsletter and then link to the blog because you want people to go to your blog because that's when they can buy something. 922 00:57:18.544 --> 00:57:22.262 And they can read even more and Google love when you have people on your blog. 923 00:57:22.262 --> 00:57:28.279 So please don't put the whole blog post in your newsletter. But but I would I would work on that. 924 00:57:28.319 --> 00:57:32.497 - And I would work on the strategies of getting people on my list. - Mhmm. 925 00:57:32.637 --> 00:57:39.963 - This is really when she asked for me, it was when I really started to working on getting traffic to my side, and I would 926 00:57:40.702 --> 00:57:45.640 I I would actually say I'm pretty good at getting traffic at my side and getting my list built because 927 00:57:46.689 --> 00:57:49.308 Lots of people make that mistake that they begin producing 928 00:57:50.927 --> 00:57:56.773 - huge digital products before they have a list. - Yeah. - But who are they going to sell it to? - Yeah. 929 00:57:56.913 --> 00:57:57.533 - You know, 930 00:57:58.512 --> 00:57:59.412 and and and 931 00:57:59.951 --> 00:58:07.017 and and lots of people also make this mistake that they make and a big online course and they don't know what people want. 932 00:58:07.197 --> 00:58:10.416 - Mhmm. Yes. - They don't know. They have an idea. 933 00:58:10.634 --> 00:58:14.612 You'd see, I I have the I love you, but I'm so tired of acquiring. 934 00:58:15.152 --> 00:58:15.652 And 935 00:58:16.751 --> 00:58:20.919 people are buying this, but when but But but the symptoms 936 00:58:21.538 --> 00:58:22.318 in the relationship 937 00:58:22.658 --> 00:58:25.796 when you can't talk together is that the sex drive is low. Mhmm. 938 00:58:26.136 --> 00:58:30.723 The the living room is low. So I would say that is 1 of the reason that my 939 00:58:32.102 --> 00:58:36.360 my biggest success get your 6 drive bag and keep it full life is still even more. 940 00:58:36.819 --> 00:58:38.738 Because this is what they 941 00:58:39.378 --> 00:58:44.236 - this is the problem. - This this - is what - they're experiencing. - That's the pain they're experiencing. 942 00:58:44.455 --> 00:58:45.235 Yeah. And 943 00:58:46.504 --> 00:58:50.442 But that's not keeping me away from teaching them to communicate in mutual thought. 944 00:58:50.942 --> 00:58:54.880 - Right. Of - course. Yes. - They have to learn this. But I - would say to, like, 945 00:58:55.329 --> 00:58:58.028 focusing on on on building the list 946 00:58:58.967 --> 00:59:00.067 is is key. 947 00:59:00.567 --> 00:59:04.233 The list once you have the list, you can ask them what they need. 948 00:59:04.233 --> 00:59:08.111 You can you can ask them questions. And you can say, hey, how can I support you? How can I help you? 949 00:59:08.111 --> 00:59:09.889 What do you need from me? What would you like? 950 00:59:10.129 --> 00:59:14.447 What like, tell me exactly the kind of product you would like me to create, and I'll create it for you. 951 00:59:14.447 --> 00:59:15.107 - Right? - Yeah. 952 00:59:15.686 --> 00:59:17.346 What is your biggest problem? 953 00:59:17.784 --> 00:59:21.283 - Yes. - Just ask them. You can make a a survey. 954 00:59:21.382 --> 00:59:25.401 - In terms of I see so many people who when they start out, they, like, 955 00:59:25.739 --> 00:59:29.398 I just made this video series with a metaphor of the mountain of fear. 956 00:59:29.497 --> 00:59:31.637 Like, there's so many things that you invent 957 00:59:32.216 --> 00:59:50.924 in your head that you think you need to do, you need to have this gigantic website, and it needs to be expertly designed, and it needs to have all these pages and all this content, and you need someone to design it, you need someone to build it and someone to write all the stuff for you and like blah blah blah or now, you know, and I now I need to take all these copywriting courses and all that stuff like, No. 958 00:59:50.924 --> 00:59:53.183 You just need basically 1 page 959 00:59:54.123 --> 01:00:00.199 and, you know, a sign up button, sign up box. And you can even actually with Actually, no. Yeah. 960 01:00:00.199 --> 01:00:01.118 Well, no. Anyway 961 01:00:02.238 --> 01:00:10.753 Well, you could theoretically start building your list with the Zenbox, and you can't send them in emails without paying, but you could actually theoretically start building it without paying anything. 962 01:00:11.892 --> 01:00:13.511 Yeah. But then, like, 963 01:00:14.251 --> 01:00:18.818 you don't need all the stuff that you think you do you need. You just need like, 964 01:00:19.478 --> 01:00:24.056 what's the simplest thing you could possibly get away with? I have this tracer bullet metaphor. 965 01:00:24.654 --> 01:00:26.094 That some of you may have seen. 966 01:00:26.094 --> 01:00:30.292 If not, I can send out the the the link to that video again after the call. 967 01:00:30.292 --> 01:00:37.698 But, like, the tracer bullet is is this idea of what's the simplest, smallest thing I can do to get 968 01:00:38.238 --> 01:00:40.976 to through to the other side, which could mean 969 01:00:41.516 --> 01:00:43.615 get people to subscribe to my list. 970 01:00:43.695 --> 01:00:50.891 Or it could mean get them to buy just 1 product from me so that you know that you've you've hit something here. 971 01:00:50.891 --> 01:00:53.600 You've hit something that people need. You've hit something that works. 972 01:00:56.238 --> 01:01:00.017 - Exactly. And and and and III just wanna say that that 973 01:01:01.214 --> 01:01:05.792 that just because there there aren't a lot of people living in the world 974 01:01:07.451 --> 01:01:09.430 great of of online products 975 01:01:09.749 --> 01:01:13.348 for private people. There's a big difference in selling 976 01:01:14.027 --> 01:01:16.246 like, I'm doing this private and selling 977 01:01:17.164 --> 01:01:19.463 for this. It's easier to to learn. 978 01:01:19.523 --> 01:01:23.181 It's easier to make money, learning people how to make money than it is too. 979 01:01:23.679 --> 01:01:27.837 - To to sell to private. - Yeah. - It is my experience and people I talk about it. 980 01:01:27.837 --> 01:01:30.096 It's also their their experience. But but 981 01:01:30.746 --> 01:01:35.313 but but but But what I see is that the people make 1 product or they make a membership club. 982 01:01:35.313 --> 01:01:43.468 And and because they have this myth about, it's going to be very very easy and giving them very, very much money in very short time. 983 01:01:43.528 --> 01:01:47.226 They give up. And it's just, no. Don't give up. 984 01:01:47.574 --> 01:01:49.354 Just keep on going. Yeah. 985 01:01:49.973 --> 01:01:51.033 You know? Ungoing. 986 01:01:51.412 --> 01:01:53.571 It will. And you will get there. 987 01:01:53.571 --> 01:02:01.497 - But but but I see that people give up because they don't because they have this myth about it's going to be set up and I'm going to create money - -- Right. 988 01:02:01.497 --> 01:02:03.097 - -- - quick and all this thing. 989 01:02:03.116 --> 01:02:08.953 And and and and they're panicking also out their website and do do is it because they need another graphic? 990 01:02:08.953 --> 01:02:10.732 Or should a split test? Or should a 991 01:02:11.111 --> 01:02:15.679 and and and and something that they have office phones in the air? And they can just you know, 992 01:02:16.179 --> 01:02:20.357 we can't focus and and I'm just like, just take 1 step at the time. 993 01:02:20.496 --> 01:02:26.563 You you don't need need a fancy fancy website. You can get it when you're a lot of money. You know? 994 01:02:26.563 --> 01:02:28.463 Actually, my American website, 995 01:02:29.042 --> 01:02:33.940 my international website, my wisdom dot com, as you look at, it hasn't been very expensive. 996 01:02:35.089 --> 01:02:39.127 I I think, actually, I bought it for about 6000 Danish krones. 997 01:02:39.127 --> 01:02:44.503 - For about a - I don't see about - a thousand dollars. - Yeah. Yeah. And actually, III paid it in rates. 998 01:02:44.503 --> 01:02:45.003 Yeah. 999 01:02:45.742 --> 01:02:47.141 And that was what the graphic 1000 01:02:47.581 --> 01:02:49.640 it's a it's a brilliant thing ish 1001 01:02:50.340 --> 01:02:53.349 women called Vbikat. That that made that for me. 1002 01:02:53.808 --> 01:02:58.886 And and it's very beautiful. I love it. It's I was crying when I saw it because, oh, yes. It's me. 1003 01:02:58.886 --> 01:03:00.054 It's Oh, yes. 1004 01:03:00.913 --> 01:03:01.833 But it's just like 1005 01:03:02.432 --> 01:03:03.192 just do 1006 01:03:03.792 --> 01:03:08.069 you you have to take the next step and it doesn't have to be perfect. 1007 01:03:08.109 --> 01:03:13.647 - I also find that that, like, people tend to focus a lot on these. Like, then it's like SEO 1008 01:03:13.986 --> 01:03:15.166 or it's, like, 1009 01:03:15.654 --> 01:03:21.432 Oh, we gotta have, like, landing pages or split tests or, like, we've, like, focus on, like, the technology 1010 01:03:21.811 --> 01:03:26.608 and systems and it needs to be Oh, bacon professional and complicated stuff 1011 01:03:27.467 --> 01:03:28.727 as opposed to 1012 01:03:29.786 --> 01:03:32.385 to being like human and being like, oh, you know what? 1013 01:03:32.385 --> 01:03:34.963 I have a list maybe like 30 people, for example. 1014 01:03:35.423 --> 01:03:39.021 But these are actual human beings. I can talk to them. I can relate to them. 1015 01:03:39.021 --> 01:03:42.528 We can just, you know, It's just you and I. Let's figure this out together. 1016 01:03:42.528 --> 01:03:48.265 We don't have to make make it into this whole machinery of of the weird, you know, dehumanized 1017 01:03:48.685 --> 01:03:49.905 stuff that goes on. 1018 01:03:50.934 --> 01:03:54.592 - Yeah. And and it is so important to remember that this 1019 01:03:55.492 --> 01:03:56.511 this is people 1020 01:03:56.931 --> 01:03:57.671 you serve. 1021 01:03:58.309 --> 01:04:02.067 This is people that has signed up because they want to know something. 1022 01:04:02.067 --> 01:04:06.945 They they they they want to learn from you. You are serving them. They are not serving you. 1023 01:04:06.945 --> 01:04:11.233 You are serving them. Correct. You are giving them what you know. 1024 01:04:11.453 --> 01:04:13.812 You are the 1 giving them something. 1025 01:04:13.812 --> 01:04:19.248 And if you are lucky and you're doing your shit good, they will give you money in return at some point. 1026 01:04:19.248 --> 01:04:25.265 But if they aren't giving you money in return, you are still a pack making an impact in their lives. 1027 01:04:25.594 --> 01:04:28.933 They maybe they have used your trade tips for better communication, 1028 01:04:29.392 --> 01:04:30.712 and and they are not having 1029 01:04:31.391 --> 01:04:34.619 - have had an Accu in 3 months. You know - -- - Right. 1030 01:04:35.079 --> 01:04:38.337 - -- - you just you we are serving these people, and that's 1031 01:04:38.677 --> 01:04:40.216 really important to remember. 1032 01:04:40.236 --> 01:04:50.970 - That brings me onto another another topic which is 1 of my favorite which is I I being on the technology side of this, I get a lot of people who are like, how can I make sure nobody nobody steals my car? 1033 01:04:51.010 --> 01:04:55.308 Content, nobody's deal with my product. And my answer is always, like, you can't. 1034 01:04:55.767 --> 01:04:57.827 The only you can make it more difficult 1035 01:04:58.374 --> 01:05:02.992 But the people you're really punishing are your your actual paying customers. 1036 01:05:03.012 --> 01:05:06.471 You're making it more difficult for them to consume your stuff. 1037 01:05:06.820 --> 01:05:08.879 In an attempt to prevent a few, 1038 01:05:09.218 --> 01:05:11.757 you know, rotten apples from stealing your content. 1039 01:05:11.897 --> 01:05:17.483 And the fact is that the people who get your content without paying for it, 1040 01:05:17.862 --> 01:05:19.362 they're they're like 1041 01:05:19.982 --> 01:05:22.600 from Karmic loss and from from like 1042 01:05:22.910 --> 01:05:29.067 scientific laws like the placebo effect and stuff, they're never gonna get as much value from it as if they were paying. 1043 01:05:29.067 --> 01:05:32.445 That's just a fact they don't. But the other thing is that 1044 01:05:32.855 --> 01:05:35.473 they probably weren't gonna pay you anyway. 1045 01:05:35.893 --> 01:05:40.331 So you haven't lost anything. You they're not like, they weren't gonna give you money anyway. 1046 01:05:40.331 --> 01:05:45.238 So the fact that they get your content without paying. It doesn't it doesn't cost you a cent. 1047 01:05:45.238 --> 01:05:47.057 - It doesn't cost you anything. Right. - Right. 1048 01:05:47.397 --> 01:05:56.682 And, Calvin, you can even say, maybe they talk Maybe the few dogs and some that they talk about this because I I have actually experienced this. 1049 01:05:56.682 --> 01:06:03.128 - A lady wrote to me that says, I know I have done something that is not good. - Yes. - I have 1050 01:06:03.787 --> 01:06:05.327 I have listened to it. GLC 1051 01:06:05.826 --> 01:06:06.846 digital product. 1052 01:06:07.405 --> 01:06:08.305 At my girlfriend. 1053 01:06:08.804 --> 01:06:09.304 - Yes. 1054 01:06:09.683 --> 01:06:10.183 - And, 1055 01:06:10.683 --> 01:06:12.522 you know, not they wanna love us. 1056 01:06:12.522 --> 01:06:16.930 But but she's just she she she logged in and I could listen it at her place. 1057 01:06:18.049 --> 01:06:21.987 III would really like to buy it, and I would like to buy sessions. 1058 01:06:22.407 --> 01:06:24.035 - Yes. Mhmm. - There you go. - Yes. 1059 01:06:24.275 --> 01:06:36.338 - So they - will be buying this that product or something else or or they recommended to someone who then buy it and, like, And if nothing else, at least you've served, you've helped someone who wasn't in a position 1060 01:06:36.717 --> 01:06:39.336 either because she's gonna afford to pay you or 1061 01:06:39.815 --> 01:06:44.932 or she wasn't in a mindset position where she that was something that she could do in her life. 1062 01:06:44.932 --> 01:06:47.811 So so there's nothing lost from this. 1063 01:06:47.811 --> 01:06:52.598 Like, You know, people don't generally, people don't like to steal. 1064 01:06:52.598 --> 01:06:58.125 Like, they wanna they wanna pay people, especially when they're real people like like you. Right? So 1065 01:06:58.464 --> 01:07:00.683 it's just not not really an issue. 1066 01:07:03.822 --> 01:07:05.241 We had 1 more question. 1067 01:07:06.169 --> 01:07:06.909 Which was 1068 01:07:08.088 --> 01:07:09.588 also Annette as asking, 1069 01:07:11.567 --> 01:07:19.793 how long time do you think it will take when you from you like, would you say take from you start out till you make around, like, 50 you know, 20000 1070 01:07:19.793 --> 01:07:23.040 dollars a month, for example, 50000 grower. 10000 dollars. 1071 01:07:23.520 --> 01:07:26.198 What what does it take and how long does it take does it take? 1072 01:07:26.198 --> 01:07:29.197 - I know you can't answer like Specifically, but - Yeah. 1073 01:07:29.197 --> 01:07:33.025 Because it it I'll say it depends it depends on how productive you are. 1074 01:07:33.065 --> 01:07:34.884 And if you have 1 on 1 session 1075 01:07:35.224 --> 01:07:36.364 and if you have 1076 01:07:36.743 --> 01:07:37.243 maybe 1077 01:07:38.023 --> 01:07:39.482 membership club and 1078 01:07:39.942 --> 01:07:44.359 some group coaching and you you have an online webinar too. Well, 1079 01:07:45.338 --> 01:07:54.563 III think you could do that in a better idea or something like that, but you need to know what to do and you need to to to to really work hard to create some good content 1080 01:07:55.023 --> 01:07:59.759 to your to your list and get people on your list because that's where you get your customers. 1081 01:08:00.139 --> 01:08:00.639 And 1082 01:08:01.498 --> 01:08:01.998 and 1083 01:08:02.378 --> 01:08:03.877 and and and focusing 1084 01:08:04.257 --> 01:08:09.443 on on making good content through website. So the when people come through website, they think, 1085 01:08:10.102 --> 01:08:12.881 oh, Christ. Why haven't I met her before? 1086 01:08:13.600 --> 01:08:19.057 - This is the this is the 1 this is the 1 where - have you been my whole life. 1087 01:08:19.997 --> 01:08:20.497 - Right? 1088 01:08:21.075 --> 01:08:27.890 Yeah. Yeah. And and and and and and and they can only get that feeling if you have 1089 01:08:28.330 --> 01:08:29.190 good stuff 1090 01:08:29.689 --> 01:08:35.987 on your website. And I'm not talking about hundred blog posts. You can start up with 10 or 15. 1091 01:08:36.046 --> 01:08:37.146 Right? 1 a month. 1092 01:08:37.525 --> 01:08:41.683 You know, and and and and have AAAQ and a on your way. 1093 01:08:41.683 --> 01:08:45.541 They can send you a mail and and you can answer that question. It's also 1094 01:08:46.160 --> 01:08:52.437 huge help for you have a q and a on your website because you you really learn your market, your target market. 1095 01:08:52.437 --> 01:08:53.857 You really know 1096 01:08:54.215 --> 01:08:57.734 what kind of problem they have. So you wanna have a q and a on your website. 1097 01:08:57.734 --> 01:09:00.792 - I don't know if you want to have that. - Yes. That's a good point. 1098 01:09:01.830 --> 01:09:07.367 - And and it's an easy way to create content. So I would I would I would I would say if you 1099 01:09:08.027 --> 01:09:15.772 if you if you are productive and if you focus on making good content to your website, you have a freebie and you have a pop up. 1100 01:09:16.250 --> 01:09:16.750 And 1101 01:09:17.090 --> 01:09:17.949 you you 1102 01:09:18.448 --> 01:09:18.948 make 1103 01:09:19.529 --> 01:09:24.346 maybe 5 or 7 auto responses to your to your path, but good auto response. 1104 01:09:24.745 --> 01:09:28.004 They email, they automatically send out, you know, with good content. 1105 01:09:28.623 --> 01:09:32.301 - So when people send you happiness, like, - a few days later, they get 1 more email. 1106 01:09:32.301 --> 01:09:36.328 - And then if a few days later or a week later they get another, that kind of thing. - Yeah. Exactly. 1107 01:09:36.588 --> 01:09:40.426 Keep educating them. Keep educating them. That's why they are unknowns. 1108 01:09:40.426 --> 01:09:42.725 They want to be educating in Indonesh. 1109 01:09:43.225 --> 01:09:44.125 Right. Exactly. 1110 01:09:45.184 --> 01:09:46.283 So you have to 1111 01:09:46.783 --> 01:09:53.168 you you you have to show people you you you you can do what what you you can help them. Right. 1112 01:09:53.168 --> 01:09:57.027 And you do that by writing on your website and communicating with the audience. 1113 01:09:57.855 --> 01:10:03.272 - I think for if I were to answer the question, I would say, from from me, it took from my start started 1114 01:10:04.870 --> 01:10:09.927 looking into this kind of online teaching online course stuff in the beginning of 2008 1115 01:10:10.027 --> 01:10:15.065 until I actually was able to make a living. It took me pretty close to 9 months 1116 01:10:15.724 --> 01:10:18.543 to a year before I got to that point. But 1117 01:10:19.043 --> 01:10:23.950 with ZenBilling as a as a separate sole business, which is software, obviously, 1118 01:10:24.849 --> 01:10:28.827 that took me 2 years to get to a point where where it's it's making 1119 01:10:29.207 --> 01:10:30.307 a a reasonable income. 1120 01:10:31.526 --> 01:10:34.235 So I think the biggest point is 1121 01:10:34.654 --> 01:10:35.154 is 1122 01:10:35.654 --> 01:10:41.551 to be committed to it, to be like, I This is this is something I really wanna do, and it may take 1123 01:10:42.020 --> 01:10:47.137 3 months and it may take 2 years or 3 years, but I'm committed to making it happen. 1124 01:10:47.137 --> 01:10:51.116 I will find a way to make it make it happen. I mean, for I have been 1125 01:10:52.665 --> 01:10:53.065 I've been 1126 01:10:53.784 --> 01:10:58.162 I've pretty much been self employed by my whole life. And and for the first 1127 01:10:58.651 --> 01:11:01.609 10 years at least. It was a struggle. It was up and down. 1128 01:11:01.609 --> 01:11:04.548 It was, like, I never got traction with it with anything. 1129 01:11:04.607 --> 01:11:11.513 I was just always resorting to to freelance programming for others as a way to survive in between my failure 1130 01:11:12.033 --> 01:11:12.813 failed attempts 1131 01:11:13.352 --> 01:11:14.452 at at at entrepreneurship. 1132 01:11:15.311 --> 01:11:15.811 And 1133 01:11:16.461 --> 01:11:20.698 And so many people have been so busy telling me to just like, why don't you just give up? 1134 01:11:20.698 --> 01:11:21.698 Why don't you just take a job? 1135 01:11:21.698 --> 01:11:26.644 You're such a good, you know, coder in and there are so many people who would be happy to employ you and pay you good pay you good money. 1136 01:11:26.644 --> 01:11:30.142 And I was like, for me, it was always always, I'd rather die. 1137 01:11:30.202 --> 01:11:32.481 I'd rather die than take a job for for someone. 1138 01:11:32.481 --> 01:11:36.129 I this is this is who I this is what I wanna make work. I'm 1139 01:11:36.989 --> 01:11:41.566 so committed to making it work and and, you know, finally succeeded. So 1140 01:11:42.225 --> 01:11:45.464 - commitment. - Yeah. And and calendar vision. Commitment. Yeah. 1141 01:11:45.464 --> 01:11:55.057 And and also it's it's okay to work really hard I'm I'm not III don't have any regrets about working my butt off for the last 2 years really because 1142 01:11:55.397 --> 01:11:56.497 today I have worked 1143 01:11:57.325 --> 01:12:02.963 Actually, I think I only worked 2 hours today because my big teenager had an exam and actually got an a. 1144 01:12:02.963 --> 01:12:06.640 So we were celebrating and I was just like, well, I I can just 1145 01:12:07.060 --> 01:12:08.879 stop now and work on tomorrow. 1146 01:12:09.698 --> 01:12:10.338 You know? 1147 01:12:10.338 --> 01:12:17.124 And and so I'm III only capable of doing that today and celebrating with him when he came home from school because 1148 01:12:18.742 --> 01:12:24.100 I because I worked at half. So so I think it's about a commitment saying, okay, this is what I want. 1149 01:12:24.100 --> 01:12:26.559 And and, you know, the the big online 1150 01:12:27.578 --> 01:12:33.295 gurus, I I say it's about 3 3 years to live very very good at it. And and 1151 01:12:33.875 --> 01:12:34.695 and and 1152 01:12:35.034 --> 01:12:41.371 and I'm only focusing on my digital product now to go online workshop, but but I know a lot of people also benefit 1153 01:12:41.950 --> 01:12:42.731 from the 1154 01:12:43.190 --> 01:12:46.509 the this whole online marketing with with clients. 1155 01:12:46.509 --> 01:12:53.614 1 on 1, 1 on 2 group coaching, you know, there's a lot of stuff you can do live and and and get clients like this. 1156 01:12:53.614 --> 01:12:58.192 It's it's it's I'm I'm just working on the the digital part now, but but 1157 01:12:59.031 --> 01:13:00.230 but it's it's really 1158 01:13:00.830 --> 01:13:07.487 III have 6 I when I when I quit my my my clients, I had 6 month waiting list. Mhmm. 1159 01:13:08.086 --> 01:13:13.403 For relationship therapy. Of course. 6 months, and all people aren't talking about 1160 01:13:14.163 --> 01:13:15.023 talking with 1161 01:13:15.471 --> 01:13:18.170 in in in in, you know, relationship, 1162 01:13:19.149 --> 01:13:24.127 therapist like that, then psychologist, the private psychologist, which is you can't get clients. 1163 01:13:24.296 --> 01:13:26.015 - That's a great thing to - do. 1164 01:13:26.095 --> 01:13:30.273 That that the the the online courses and those info products that you create, 1165 01:13:30.693 --> 01:13:33.481 it's not just the money that they generate in another themselves. 1166 01:13:33.481 --> 01:13:39.138 It's also part of positioning you as an expert as a special unique sought after experts 1167 01:13:39.798 --> 01:13:42.857 that then give you other kinds of customers. Yeah. 1168 01:13:43.546 --> 01:13:46.125 - So so you could say if you have a membership club 1169 01:13:46.464 --> 01:13:48.243 and and making this expert 1170 01:13:48.623 --> 01:13:50.562 interview every month and then it transcribed, 1171 01:13:50.881 --> 01:13:55.958 scrapping transcribing, you know, making a little e guy that can print out with the some of the tools. 1172 01:13:55.958 --> 01:14:00.377 So if I'm, like, maybe that that's not where you're going to get most money 1173 01:14:00.706 --> 01:14:07.083 but it's going to give you consent to your side. It's going to position you in your field as 1174 01:14:07.601 --> 01:14:11.979 an expert. You know, if you're interviewing other experts, then you're the expert expert. 1175 01:14:12.919 --> 01:14:20.895 And and and that would give you more clients too, and it would make you you know, no more your your own knowledge will grow. 1176 01:14:20.994 --> 01:14:26.212 So so so that way you will get if if you focus on these things, you can see an asset 1177 01:14:27.461 --> 01:14:28.281 front door, 1178 01:14:29.020 --> 01:14:34.817 - small products can be a front door for clients to buy big stuff. - Right. You know? Yes. Exactly. 1179 01:14:34.817 --> 01:14:35.317 - Maybe 1180 01:14:36.136 --> 01:14:36.636 Yeah. 1181 01:14:37.456 --> 01:14:40.594 - So Robin is asking if we can see 1 of your landing pages. 1182 01:14:41.973 --> 01:14:43.793 - I'm not sure. - Yeah. You can. 1183 01:14:45.531 --> 01:14:47.790 It's a bit okay if it's 1 of Danish 1184 01:14:48.369 --> 01:14:48.869 because 1185 01:14:49.329 --> 01:14:54.795 - I'm this is my Danish side. - As long as you give us, like, then you can finish to English course 1186 01:14:56.134 --> 01:14:58.313 - at the same time. I'm just - I will. 1187 01:14:58.653 --> 01:15:00.192 Yeah. Actually, right now, 1188 01:15:00.812 --> 01:15:02.131 my translate is working 1189 01:15:02.851 --> 01:15:03.351 translating 1190 01:15:04.090 --> 01:15:04.370 the 1191 01:15:06.289 --> 01:15:07.709 this this is 1192 01:15:09.186 --> 01:15:11.126 This is a little below the belt, but sorry. 1193 01:15:11.345 --> 01:15:15.563 This is awakening sexuality in a t spot and gave more enjoyment in a sex life. 1194 01:15:17.001 --> 01:15:17.861 This is some 1195 01:15:18.561 --> 01:15:20.660 online workshop in 3 modules 1196 01:15:21.079 --> 01:15:22.019 and for 1197 01:15:22.558 --> 01:15:25.577 spoken guides. I think the translation will be. 1198 01:15:26.476 --> 01:15:27.116 And this is 1199 01:15:31.514 --> 01:15:32.614 oh, it looks like 1200 01:15:33.793 --> 01:15:34.293 saying 1201 01:15:36.461 --> 01:15:42.558 you experienced that it is a struggle for you to be turned on when you're about to have sex. 1202 01:15:43.956 --> 01:15:46.135 Do do you feel like you 1203 01:15:46.595 --> 01:15:48.454 you aren't getting enough 1204 01:15:49.114 --> 01:15:50.493 feeling or something 1205 01:15:51.462 --> 01:15:53.921 And I'm I'm I'm actually 1206 01:15:55.260 --> 01:15:58.878 talking to them about the pain, the things they think about, you know. 1207 01:16:01.647 --> 01:16:03.346 And then there is a live out 1208 01:16:04.325 --> 01:16:06.344 kind of facts, you know, 1209 01:16:06.724 --> 01:16:09.463 hundred percent of the women in my survey 1210 01:16:09.852 --> 01:16:12.471 they actually wanted a a lovely and enjoyable 1211 01:16:12.811 --> 01:16:15.310 sex life, and they were frustrated about they 1212 01:16:15.689 --> 01:16:19.348 - they thought they could have something and and they weren't there, you know. - Okay. 1213 01:16:21.556 --> 01:16:24.175 - And then I'm talking a little Still a good translate. 1214 01:16:24.195 --> 01:16:31.021 I've tried that, and I know some of my my English, my American friends have done it, and then actually, it it makes good sense. 1215 01:16:31.021 --> 01:16:31.521 Mhmm. 1216 01:16:31.861 --> 01:16:35.279 - Okay. And - then there's something about your models and what you get. 1217 01:16:39.007 --> 01:16:43.185 You know, when they come when it when it's on and and then when people are very 1218 01:16:43.525 --> 01:16:48.502 still insecure about what is it? This online thing, how is it going to work? 1219 01:16:48.682 --> 01:16:53.270 - So I'm actually this is how it's going to work step by step. - Oh, that's a good point. 1220 01:16:53.270 --> 01:16:57.088 - You know, when you sign up, you get a personal mail, personal login, 1221 01:16:57.927 --> 01:17:05.303 And what I do when I launch something like this is that I people will write me with the questions that I have an asset. 1222 01:17:05.403 --> 01:17:06.742 And when they do that, 1223 01:17:07.212 --> 01:17:08.031 I look. 1224 01:17:14.586 --> 01:17:16.265 In a model. And here, lead the 1225 01:17:17.585 --> 01:17:20.564 what do you call it? And Davis, it's called in house for dinosaur. 1226 01:17:21.082 --> 01:17:25.260 - Yep. Table of content. - This is the the things I I go through. 1227 01:17:25.760 --> 01:17:28.098 Yeah. Table of content exactly much a lot. 1228 01:17:31.346 --> 01:17:33.445 2, module 3. If. 1229 01:17:34.144 --> 01:17:39.002 And then they come so so when I launch and people write to me during the launch, 1230 01:17:40.381 --> 01:17:43.639 What if I wanna have my my husband with me? What? 1231 01:17:44.219 --> 01:17:48.447 I run. I take the type the email and I log in to my web page. 1232 01:17:48.487 --> 01:17:51.865 - And, you know, so it's getting better and better and better and better. - Yeah. 1233 01:17:52.045 --> 01:17:55.983 And so this this particular landing page is on your WordPress website. 1234 01:17:57.581 --> 01:18:03.338 - Yes. - Yes. I keep all in my my own oh, no. Because I've done some split testing. 1235 01:18:03.338 --> 01:18:04.768 I wanna show you this 1236 01:18:07.615 --> 01:18:14.072 This is the this is this is get the no. This is I love you, but I'm so tired of acting. 1237 01:18:14.561 --> 01:18:15.501 This is actually 1238 01:18:16.200 --> 01:18:19.459 the the the beat test and a split testing. 1239 01:18:19.838 --> 01:18:22.677 Mhmm. And this was 37 1240 01:18:22.677 --> 01:18:23.177 percent 1241 01:18:23.786 --> 01:18:27.524 mom, if get a sales with this 1, then be able to. Okay. 1242 01:18:31.551 --> 01:18:32.250 Year old. 1243 01:18:33.669 --> 01:18:38.127 So this is this is 1 I'm tomorrow on my list of what I'm going to do tomorrow. 1244 01:18:39.066 --> 01:18:42.484 People I'm going to call, actually, my split testing guide because we're 1245 01:18:43.783 --> 01:18:46.882 setting up another 1. So the testing this 1, I guess another. 1246 01:18:48.211 --> 01:18:51.709 - So - -- Cool. -- - yes. Maybe he's going to change something about here. 1247 01:18:51.968 --> 01:18:56.167 You know, maybe he's going to change 5 now and give it another color. 1248 01:18:56.167 --> 01:18:59.695 Then we just see what happens in the next 6 months. Cool. 1249 01:19:00.834 --> 01:19:02.614 I would say some of the some of 1250 01:19:03.633 --> 01:19:04.932 the things that I've I've 1251 01:19:05.451 --> 01:19:06.990 that is is getting testimonials. 1252 01:19:07.730 --> 01:19:09.249 Some of the people I I am 1253 01:19:09.929 --> 01:19:11.468 and I wanna mention this because 1254 01:19:12.456 --> 01:19:20.192 when you start out and, you know, you can you can and I was too very be very insecure about am I am I good enough? 1255 01:19:20.381 --> 01:19:21.001 You know, 1256 01:19:21.620 --> 01:19:23.559 can I really help people? And 1257 01:19:25.938 --> 01:19:26.438 and 1258 01:19:27.017 --> 01:19:29.677 and some of the girls that I'm entering right now 1259 01:19:30.356 --> 01:19:35.333 haven't had very much 1 on 1 client, and they haven't got all these great testimonials. 1260 01:19:35.673 --> 01:19:38.492 We can see all the the the big people have. 1261 01:19:39.791 --> 01:19:43.969 So so what I have said to them is why don't you offer 1262 01:19:45.188 --> 01:19:48.886 10 sessions or 3 3 sessions for free? 1263 01:19:49.456 --> 01:19:50.435 Focusing people. 1264 01:19:50.895 --> 01:19:54.114 You can do that for the next the next 3 or 4 months. 1265 01:19:54.493 --> 01:19:56.593 And they told me 1266 01:19:57.001 --> 01:19:59.660 that they have had such good experience 1267 01:20:00.199 --> 01:20:07.045 in teaching people and, you know, coaching them even though it was for free, that they have they've they've gotten the self esteem. 1268 01:20:07.045 --> 01:20:11.822 They've gotten this. I can do this. I can I can really I can really get this 1269 01:20:12.162 --> 01:20:16.070 move people from a to b? And they have gotten the great testimonials. 1270 01:20:17.009 --> 01:20:20.947 - And and that is 2 very important things. - Alright. - And 1271 01:20:21.336 --> 01:20:27.713 And and and people say, but but it's for free. And I yeah. But, you know, long term, this works. 1272 01:20:28.052 --> 01:20:28.552 - Right. 1273 01:20:30.151 --> 01:20:34.968 Awesome. I love that you have in your bookmarks bar, something called the internal clearest 1274 01:20:38.546 --> 01:20:42.894 - Yeah. It's because There was a picture as I just III 1275 01:20:42.894 --> 01:20:50.769 need it to my graphic because you, you know, when you do online courses and digital product, you can just you can just take pictures from Google. 1276 01:20:50.949 --> 01:20:56.466 They don't like that. So when I when I I see stuff and I say, oh, yes, I need this picture. 1277 01:20:56.466 --> 01:21:00.454 I send it to my I have what are you called? She's drawing it. Yeah. 1278 01:21:00.454 --> 01:21:03.013 Because they Can you make something like this? Yeah. 1279 01:21:03.013 --> 01:21:07.151 He'll just try to guess because she's illustrating it there on her own. So Good. 1280 01:21:08.390 --> 01:21:09.570 Yeah. Sorry. 1281 01:21:10.589 --> 01:21:11.848 I'm a I am a psychologist. 1282 01:21:12.468 --> 01:21:15.407 - Oh, yeah. Is your is your line of work? That's alright. 1283 01:21:15.815 --> 01:21:20.313 And then I also wanted to know your graphic designer VPK. What's her last name? 1284 01:21:23.790 --> 01:21:26.928 - She's not my graphic be bigger like, be bigger 1285 01:21:27.388 --> 01:21:29.407 is the 1 who made my America 1286 01:21:32.066 --> 01:21:36.253 - side. Yes. - I posted at the graphics store. - And she her 1287 01:21:37.253 --> 01:21:37.972 yeah. The 1288 01:21:40.490 --> 01:21:41.469 Page is 1289 01:21:42.129 --> 01:21:42.989 much more. 1290 01:21:43.648 --> 01:21:44.828 Much more. People. 1291 01:21:45.927 --> 01:21:46.747 - Alright. - And 1292 01:21:47.305 --> 01:21:53.082 the 1 she the 1 she's she's working let's doing the graphic. That's lean. 1293 01:21:54.062 --> 01:21:56.740 Okay. From quartz dot Conjunctivo. 1294 01:21:57.640 --> 01:22:05.256 And Lena is is right now working actually, Lena, my my graphic the the girl that has made this graphic, made me cry today. 1295 01:22:06.115 --> 01:22:10.853 In a good way. She sent me the the graphic form and your affiliate program, and it was 1296 01:22:11.392 --> 01:22:17.349 - it was so freaking cool and made me cry. - Awesome. - I'm I have very easy, very easy to choose. 1297 01:22:18.529 --> 01:22:19.029 - Good. 1298 01:22:19.408 --> 01:22:19.908 Yeah. 1299 01:22:20.407 --> 01:22:22.307 Alright. My let's let's 1300 01:22:22.646 --> 01:22:24.466 let people off the hook here and 1301 01:22:26.604 --> 01:22:27.104 round 1302 01:22:28.203 --> 01:22:31.151 in this evening together or morning wherever you are. 1303 01:22:32.830 --> 01:22:35.169 Thank you. Yeah. Thank you so much 1304 01:22:35.828 --> 01:22:37.807 for all that you've shared with us today. 1305 01:22:39.705 --> 01:22:43.843 - It's really amazing. - Yeah. Thank you. III love talking about this. Alright. 1306 01:22:45.302 --> 01:22:47.601 If I can say last thing? Yes, ma'am. 1307 01:22:50.249 --> 01:22:52.468 The most important thing is not to give up. 1308 01:22:53.728 --> 01:23:00.283 Really, really, really, really, just keep on going keep on going because if if you do that, you you will have success. 1309 01:23:00.283 --> 01:23:03.022 And and look at people that that made made it work 1310 01:23:03.990 --> 01:23:08.368 don't look at the people who's teaching it and not making it work work for themselves. 1311 01:23:08.588 --> 01:23:10.207 Look at the people who have 1312 01:23:10.707 --> 01:23:12.166 who have done it, you know, 1313 01:23:13.065 --> 01:23:19.442 That that III found I found an Australian girl, and I was thinking she's about a year in front of me. 1314 01:23:20.070 --> 01:23:26.687 And I'm I'm looking at her and and following her and seeing, okay, what kind of problems is she 1315 01:23:27.165 --> 01:23:29.385 working on now. Where is she? 1316 01:23:29.724 --> 01:23:30.224 And 1317 01:23:31.323 --> 01:23:33.222 and she is 1 of the next I wanna 1318 01:23:33.642 --> 01:23:34.142 grab 1319 01:23:34.482 --> 01:23:36.101 grab onto and say, hey, 1320 01:23:37.070 --> 01:23:38.969 how much for your mentoring because 1321 01:23:40.029 --> 01:23:45.126 because she she she's living it. And and like you, Calvin, if if 1322 01:23:45.506 --> 01:23:48.764 if if you're living it and you're doing it, you 1323 01:23:49.343 --> 01:23:51.203 you you can give really good advice 1324 01:23:51.702 --> 01:23:55.980 and and you can learn real real life from from people doing it. And 1325 01:23:56.800 --> 01:23:57.979 and and lots of people 1326 01:23:58.479 --> 01:24:01.897 more than willing to to just ask the simple question on email. 1327 01:24:02.426 --> 01:24:07.004 So yeah. And if and if they're smart, they have a q and a on this side, and you've been always 1328 01:24:07.623 --> 01:24:08.683 always emailing. 1329 01:24:09.571 --> 01:24:13.629 So but don't give up don't give up. But think it think it as a long term business. 1330 01:24:13.809 --> 01:24:17.467 Think it think long terms, really. And and and it would be 1331 01:24:18.856 --> 01:24:23.254 much less can you say much less frustrating that this this is long term? 1332 01:24:23.254 --> 01:24:28.552 In the long term, you win and you will earn a lot of money, but but not short term. Yeah. 1333 01:24:28.651 --> 01:24:31.670 - And would you recommend that people use unbilling for their business? 1334 01:24:33.129 --> 01:24:33.989 - Holy moly. 1335 01:24:34.368 --> 01:24:36.787 They yes. Of course, Edward. I 1336 01:24:37.866 --> 01:24:40.025 I can seriously say that if I hadn't 1337 01:24:41.304 --> 01:24:45.923 if if if I hadn't used Synchrony, I would still be working as a school teacher. 1338 01:24:46.622 --> 01:24:47.121 Wow. 1339 01:24:47.881 --> 01:24:53.498 Well, really because this is where my list is it makes it so easy for me to do list stuff 1340 01:24:54.118 --> 01:24:58.295 so easy. I went on the American market, called me to know because I actually mailed you. 1341 01:24:58.295 --> 01:25:02.673 So if you can remember, IIII went on the American market to find something in American. 1342 01:25:03.700 --> 01:25:07.239 Because I didn't know that that I could use the symbol in American too. 1343 01:25:07.578 --> 01:25:11.677 So so I couldn't find anything that could do, what symboling could do, and 1344 01:25:12.436 --> 01:25:15.255 And and what I found was that it was much more expensive. 1345 01:25:15.314 --> 01:25:19.872 So my email account and they said, why don't you just make another account and just make it an English? 1346 01:25:19.872 --> 01:25:23.469 Oh, help. Can I do that? I'm just going to do that. So 1347 01:25:24.129 --> 01:25:27.747 so really, III couldn't have done my I I couldn't have done my membership. 1348 01:25:28.367 --> 01:25:29.187 No. I get 1349 01:25:30.106 --> 01:25:33.844 Yeah. Yes. I can only reconcile billing. Really. 1350 01:25:34.463 --> 01:25:35.163 It's really 1351 01:25:35.822 --> 01:25:39.041 - great. I'm so glad to hear that, mate. Thank you so much. 1352 01:25:39.501 --> 01:25:41.120 Thanks for everything, and 1353 01:25:41.899 --> 01:25:44.239 thanks to all of you who showed up here today. 1354 01:25:46.137 --> 01:25:47.517 Zenbilling dot com 1355 01:25:48.176 --> 01:25:50.914 Click the button, sign up for your free account. 1356 01:25:51.454 --> 01:25:53.553 Like I said, it doesn't it doesn't 1357 01:25:54.292 --> 01:25:55.152 cost anything. 1358 01:25:55.631 --> 01:25:59.209 Oh, Robin has 1 more question, which is do you have a mastermind group? 1359 01:26:01.347 --> 01:26:01.847 - Who 1360 01:26:02.227 --> 01:26:04.646 - who who's she asking? We? - I think you. Yes. 1361 01:26:05.275 --> 01:26:05.775 - Oh. 1362 01:26:06.474 --> 01:26:12.172 - Yeah. I'm asking mine to about online marketing. - Yeah. Are you running 1? Are you a member of 1? 1363 01:26:13.420 --> 01:26:16.759 - No. I'm not running. I'm I'm I am going to have 1364 01:26:17.138 --> 01:26:19.157 1 here in the phone. Mhmm. 1365 01:26:19.937 --> 01:26:25.683 In in in in Denmark, but I'm actually thinking about doing 1 international too. So 1366 01:26:27.622 --> 01:26:33.697 just Yeah. Send send me an email and and and really if if you're listening here, you you're you're 1367 01:26:34.277 --> 01:26:35.985 welcome to to send me an email. 1368 01:26:36.824 --> 01:26:42.722 Just don't write me 10 pages, but I would would would be glad to to answer some question if you have if you have some No 1369 01:26:43.302 --> 01:26:47.438 worries. Thank you. Yeah. That's right. Right now, I'm just focusing on 1370 01:26:48.238 --> 01:26:51.976 yes. But in the fall, it will come from mastermind groups. Yes. 1371 01:26:52.285 --> 01:26:52.785 - Great. 1372 01:26:53.485 --> 01:26:57.063 Thank you. Let me just extend that as well and say, I'm always there. 1373 01:26:57.403 --> 01:26:58.982 Any questions? Email me. 1374 01:26:59.960 --> 01:27:02.179 That's great. Thank you so much, Mike. Yeah. 1375 01:27:02.519 --> 01:27:04.938 - And Thank you. I thank you. Yeah. 1376 01:27:05.437 --> 01:27:06.177 - Great. - And 1377 01:27:07.095 --> 01:27:10.314 everybody have a wonderful, amazing, fantastic day. 1378 01:27:11.173 --> 01:27:12.432 Looking forward to 1379 01:27:13.172 --> 01:27:17.739 getting to know you seeing you on Zoom billing and seeing you join the family and and let's 1380 01:27:18.119 --> 01:27:21.818 spread the love and make this world an amazing place. 1381 01:27:22.437 --> 01:27:23.497 Thank you so much. 1382 01:27:24.276 --> 01:27:25.975 - Bye bye. - Bye bye everyone.