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Hey, my name is Calvin Corolli, founder of Sinclair. I'm here with Stacey Harris, who's so

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graced

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graciously

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accepted the comment Skype here with me and have her chat. Hey, Stacey. How are you doing?

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- I am awesome. How are you? Thanks for having me.
- Thank you. I'm great. Thank you.

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You have your, like, all you make me feel all

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I'm a sure ish with my Apple headset here. You have this professional mic set up and stuff.

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- It's because it's always there. Right.

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- Tell us what because
- I talk that much.
- Yes. You do. And you need it recorded.

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- All posterity. Yes.
- I might have something genius that comes out of my mouth 1 day.

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- And I want that moment recorded.
- Right.

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Don't we always have that, like and even even sometimes when when I find myself with a in, like, some kind of weird argument situation with my wife or someone.

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I was like, if I could we have this recorded so we could just go back, like, 5 minutes and see what actually happened here?

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How do we end up here in this ridiculous place. We should always be, oh, god. Go go blessed.

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Now I see. Oh, no. Big brother.

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- Shit. Never mind. Mhmm.
- So it's a slippery slope.
- Yeah. Exactly. It really is.

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Maybe it's good that things aren't recorded. But what do you use it for? The microphone.

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- I do all my podcasting with this microphone.

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It records my audio for all my videos,

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for all my coursework.

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When I put together my programs. That was all recorded on this baby right here, the audio. Wow.

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- It's it's come a long way with
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Yes.

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- I think when I when I upgrade, I will, like, mount it
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Hall of Fame.

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So what's your podcast about?

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- My podcast is not online business.

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I teach women entrepreneurs

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how to start their own businesses,

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primarily from a social media marketing perspective, like,

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where to start, how to figure out what you're supposed to be doing, and how not to open up Facebook and spend 4 and a half hours there and go, wow, I didn't market my business at all.

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But I took a lot of buzzfeed quizzes,

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which I say because I'm super guilty of it.

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So that's what I mean, we talk a lot about social media and then I do 2 episodes a week, 1 where I am Yammer Yammer for 20 minutes.

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And hopefully, something wonderful comes out of it.

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And then the other 1 is a guest, which is probably the better episode because then we bring somebody on to, like, talk about things that are important.

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We talk about with the guests everything from self care to email marketing,

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to getting started with video,

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to

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taking care of your relationships as an entrepreneur because we all know it's a little bit harder when our office is in our house.

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And my husband actually works with me, so it's extra, not separated. Mhmm.

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So so, yeah, we talk about all sorts of online entrepreneur stuff.

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Just super descriptive.

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- Yes. He does. Well, what it covers? I mean, that's what you do. Right?

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You practice and then you you share what you've learned in the process.

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- Pretty much I just talk about all the stuff I've figured out in the 3 and a half years I've been doing this.

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- Yes. Alright. So what would you what like, Is that that's that's would you say that's your business?

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Who you who's your audience? Who's your what's your kinda unique angle at things if you have 1?

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- My unique angle in my business is really all around social media and teaching women entrepreneurs primarily, generally somewhere between

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well, really in their thirties, usually.

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We've got a few younger and a few older. But primarily, my audience is in their thirties,

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and they're women entrepreneurs. And they are

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are scared of social media. They think they're doing it wrong. And I hear so many people.

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Every client I have tells me at some point that they're dumb when it comes to this stuff.

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And they're not usually. They're just they just don't know what they don't know.

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They haven't figured certain things out.

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And and I think we have an instinct that, oh, I know how to use Twitter.

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I can tweet clearly, I know how to use it for my business, and it's a whole other

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way of thinking about it.

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So what I really do in my business is I teach women to confidently use social media to market themselves

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without feeling like douchebags because that's the other pieces.

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We kind of sit there and we're like, okay, I'm selling.

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And I that was I just was like buy this and that's super not helpful either. Mhmm.

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So I teach people to confidently and effectively market themselves on social media.

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And a lot of that is for community growth and and building a community around your business, which is everything from, you know, your email list to your Facebook followers to

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you know, now with with things like Google plus communities and LinkedIn groups and Facebook groups, it's it's even the communities inside of there.

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You know, a lot of people refer to it as like their tribe.

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Those people that will follow you everywhere.

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Since I have more of a rockstar slants in my brand, we usually call them raving fans.

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But yeah, that's that's basically what I do is is teaching people social media through community

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and and teaching them the confidence in it.

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My favorite part of what I do is that moment when someone figure something out. They're like, oh,

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- yeah. And I'm like, yay. That's the best.
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- That's a very long winded answer. I'm sorry.
- Yeah. That's perfect. That's perfect.

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And so I'm curious, like, how why did you even get into doing online business for yourself?

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what prompted that?

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- It actually came from not wanting to do anything I had done before.

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6 years ago now, I had my son

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and I stayed home with him for a couple of years and I missed the part of my brain that functions when I was working.

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Okay. I missed I missed that piece of myself.

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- And I missed it.
- As in you you lost it or you missed using it?
- I just missed using it.

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You know, I had it, but I there was no purpose for it.

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You know, I didn't I didn't have any any reason to be using that part of my brain on a day to day basis.

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You know, I had adult conversations and things like that.

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But, you know, conversations with my husband are not exactly, like, worky. Mhmm. You know?

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So I wanted that part of my life back. I missed it, but I had 0 desire to go back to do anything

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- I had done before.
- What had you done before?

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- I have done everything from work for a record label to sell commercial property insurance

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to jewelry repair. I've done a lot of the next thing.

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I always said that I wanted to do lots and lots of jobs before I grew up and picked 1 -- Mhmm.

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we sat down and we're like, well, what can I do?

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You know, I don't really wanna have a commute every day. I don't I didn't want any of that.

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So I started googling work at home business or work at home jobs, which mostly gets you a lot of scams when you when you enter that into Google.

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And I found out about being a virtual assistant.

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So I started my first business, which was a virtual assistant business,

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and learned all about social and learned how much I really liked that it changed all the time.

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And then I could figure it out and then I could teach people that

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so about a year after I started that, I launched hit the mic marketing, which is now the Stacey Harris,

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- which is all about social media and teaching teaching women how to use it.
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Cool. I see that a lot,

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you know, especially women

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who have that child and then don't go back to what they were doing before.

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It kinda gives you that break, that perspective

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of, like,

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no. No. They're they're bigger things. They're they're more important things.

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They're things like be doing that I just haven't been doing so far. It's really awesome to see.

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- And I think when you when you become a parent and you realize, like, okay, this is gonna mean

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8 to 10 hours a day away from not only my my kid, but my spouse, you know, away from my family.

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Like, is that Is that something I really wanna be doing?

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Is that something I wanna prioritize over this? Mhmm. And for me, it it's super awesome.

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- Yeah. Yeah.
- Also, I'm not very good at having a boss. Like, I'm really I just I don't care for it.

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I don't care for being told what to do. So being an entrepreneur and being self employed,

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- much more pleasant for me.
- Mhmm. Yeah. I hear you on that 1 too. I don't know. It was so funny.

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I I started

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taking a gig at a bar recently

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just to learn,

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like, how to make strengths and like how that whole bit.

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I've always been fascinated with the restaurant and bar industry, so just to learn more about it.

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And so I was at that bar and I kinda had

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at Bask I was working under the the lead bartender who was teaching me stuff, and it was so weird.

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It was like, oh my god. I can't now I know I haven't done this in so long because it's

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It it was awful.

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It was it was a good learning growth experience for me to try that again a little bit.

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But, yeah, I totally hear you on

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- like, having a boss. Yeah.
- It's no fun.
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I think, like, some of us are just we just need to have our own little domain came down to be in complete control

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- Well, and I think for people who are self employed, entrepreneurs, things like that, there's a little bit of control freakness in us.

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We like to know all the moving pieces and we like to be accountable for all the moving pieces.

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We don't we don't we don't wanna have to be accountable to somebody else who tells us what things to pay attention to.

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Yeah. Also, you know, I really like making my own schedule.

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I really like, you know, I like having that flexibility.

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And when I first started, my husband worked swing shift.

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- So had I had a normal job, when I came home, he'd have been gone.
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- He went to work in the afternoon and didn't get home till the middle of night.

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So I would have literally never seen him,

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which should not sound very appealing because I'm kind of a fan of him.

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- That I would hope. Yeah. Wow.

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- What when what day of month were you or is your birthday? I'm just curious.
- The thirteenth.

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- Thirteenth. Okay. Yes.

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I'm you know, you I don't know if you know, but unlike this numerology, I'm kinda sure.

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But I've I don't I should study it more because I don't remember. So 13 means you're a 4.

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That's your your base. And it's 1 plus 30 is 4.

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But I forget what a 4 is. So never mind.

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- I need to study more on that.
- I'll have to Google that now.
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Well, there there's a ton of different systems, but the 1 that that to my wife's study and that we're practicing as like a particular 1.

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Anyway,

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back to you and your your business, I'm I'm when you look back at how far you've come in these past 3 and a half years.

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- Right?
- Mhmm.

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- What

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what achievement are you most proud of?

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In that span.

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- Oh, there's so many you know, the 1 that I'm probably the most proud of and that is the most recent is

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retiring my husband.

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Charles is my husband. I'll stop referring to him as just my husband, I guess.

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is today, actually, right now, he's at work. Giving notice for his job.

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He'll be home full time in 2 weeks. Yes. Uh-huh.

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The only because he's way cooler than I am and decided he should give him 2 weeks notice.

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I was like, just quit. Gonna be fun. Mhmm. He's like, no.

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This is why he's the more responsible 1. But he's, you know, being able to

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to give us both that freedom and independence from

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a a boss

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is is real of course, now he's, you know, I'm his boss. So for better or worse for him.

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But, no, I think that's probably my biggest accomplishment inside of my business.

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I actually spoke at a conference last year at the for the International Virtual Assistance Association, and that was the very first conference I ever ever attended.

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And I said after I left there that I was gonna speak at it someday. And 2 years later I did.

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So that was probably my my other 1 sort of inside the minutia and day to day of my business. Right.

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- But retiring Charles as from from a life perspective -- Mhmm. -- is a is a pretty massive 1.
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Now that's so great. I I love that. I've seen

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I've seen that elsewhere as well. Robin, that I interviewed AAAA

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while back, a psychiatrist,

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her husband lost her job, her his job, and then she just decided to, like, support the family and and and did.

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And that's it's that's also something that excites me a lot is that, you know, that women start to take on that role voluntarily

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and, like, and grow with it, run with it, and really, you know, make amazing things happen.

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- That way. That's
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I think it's so fun for me because when I first started my virtual assistant business, the goal was to make a little extra money.

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You know, vacations,

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save for college, college, things like that. That that was the goal.

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And now we're at a point where it's like Charles is gonna, you know, he's gonna start working with me.

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He's not gonna, like, stop working because he would go insane, and I could not deal with that.

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We have to keep him busy. Right.

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So, you know, to be able to make that shift, in 3 and a half years from, like, oh, yeah, a little extra money from vacations

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to, hey, you wanna work for me.

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- It's it's really exciting and it's something I'm really really proud of.
- That's very cool.

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And it's also a good progression.

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Like, you can start out I mean, you can start with the ambition to, like, I'm gonna I'm gonna make this my living and to support my family or you can start out.

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This is gonna be a side business and then just, like, let it grow. But both are are really

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great options and great ways to do it as long as you're still commitment to make it work. Right?

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- Whatever your goal is, you know, I I talk to people, you know, I I have in my business, I do a mastermind called the business amplifier mastermind and I had somebody and she's like, I don't wanna make 7 figures.

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Like, I don't wanna run a team.

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I don't, like, I don't want these things that, you know, everyone's pitching is like, what you have to do.

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And I was like, whatever your goal is is your goal.

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You don't have to You don't have to set that against somebody else's.

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If you wanna be somebody who just wants to be able to live

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out of a suitcase and a laptop and so you wanna run a business and support those bills, and put a little money aside for a rainy day, that's that's perfectly acceptable.

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If you wanna be somebody who wants to make a little bit of money, work a few hours a week,

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and and build a a totally passive income business, and and this is this is the scale that you wanna be in that being that scale.

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There's nothing wrong with that. It it's totally unique to you.

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That's the good thing about being your own boss.

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If you don't have to sort of measure stick to somebody else's

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- realm of success. Whatever success is to you that that success.
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Alright. So let's let's talk a little bit about Simparo and on support.

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Because I know you started with on support and then you you discovered Simpara somehow and you decided to move order over that.

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- So Let's start with that. How did you come across Amphora? How did you hear about it?
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original, I had already moved to Oxford because I decided in 20 14.

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It was gonna be the year I got rid of all of the pieces. I sort of had duct tape together.

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And I wanted to streamline and I wanted to add an affiliate program for my my stand alone courses, my self study courses.

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a bigger system. Mhmm.

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And so I was gonna do that. And so it I went to onboard on a recommendation of a friend,

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who I'm still friends with. But I I didn't care for Onport. I didn't I didn't like the process.

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it was just a gigantic pain, and I did not care for it. Like, I gave it 2 and a half months.

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We got everything moved over and coming through there.

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And every time I would go to do something, something would not work for me. Mhmm.

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I don't wanna sit here and, like, bash on port. It's a great system for some people.

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everything sort of right there on my dashboard and it's in the menu and I just know where to go.

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I'm also lazy, apparently.

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So I was really really happy friend of mine in b school said, why have you not tried a simplero yet?

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That's what I use. And so that's what I started using. And I started looking at it, and I was like,

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- And so that's what I use now.
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as I could have been I think whenever you get in some place where you can handle your products and your email list and your affiliate program, like, there's so many pieces and 1 thing.

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I remember being really relieved that I wasn't, and I remember getting in there because of the frustrations I had with OnFort.

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I go there for that and there for that and there for that. Yay.

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- So I I think there was an an like, and this sounds really weird, but there was an ease and a comfort when I got into it for the first time.

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what I was doing. I didn't have to be like, I don't know what any of this means. Right.

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- That's cool to hear. Well, I mean, it it clearly helps that you know kinda what you're looking for.

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Yeah. You understand how the business works.

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That's 1 other thing that the dreams that I have is to, like, really can emerge this teaching about how to run this kind of business with the software.

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So it's not like, here's a product teaching you how to run the business.

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Here's this offer, but it's really integrated.

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- It would be amazing, though. Because I totally something I would have embraced earlier.
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- But I think I I sort of duct taped everything together because I sort of figured out that I needed it and then just sort of

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put it in the in the funnel. You know what I mean?

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Like, what does attached this here and this over here. That'll work. Yeah.

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Because you kind of don't know what you need until you're like, waking up 1 day and you're like, okay, I I really don't wanna have to send an email out every time someone emails me to buy a sister buy a program.

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- So I like that sort of education piece of, like, this is how this could run.
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We try to do it by or so far just by having all the pieces laid out in a sort of logical fashion, but but the edge training is not quite there yet.

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values, visions for this just to make it that comfortable home -- Mhmm.

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-- where you feel like you found this and you're like, ah, you've come home.

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This is like you there's someone there that has your back

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and there's, you know, there's just a positive vibration behind this.

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you feel in control because you have everything right there. So that's -- Absolutely.

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-- how I try to make it. It works.

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Great. I'm really excited to hear that actually.

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so you moved over from onto port And was that painful? Is that painful?

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- Not as painful as moving too much for it was. Oh, really? Yeah.

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I wasn't moving from multiple systems, 1 system. Right.

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But also, I think it was a lot easier because I didn't have to figure out where to put things.

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clicked on on lists, and I made my list and imported my list over from Onport.

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the ease in finding everything.

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There wasn't a lot of me having to, like, find stuff to figure out how to move it.

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I was so overbid for it.

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- here's here, here's here, here's here.
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Cool. Very cool.

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And and,

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yeah, it's just like, your experience with Simparo,

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what's that been like?

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Right. No. It is. It's it's really easy to use. I like

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my biggest, most, favoritest part of simplero is the products because

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- so much of my business is based on selling courses.
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and connects it with my, you know, my payment gateways and and it's all there it goes.

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And moving from a system where I had to, like, have that ugly PayPal button and

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and sort of I could never get PayPal to work the way I wanted it to.

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And so I always had to make sure that the membership

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and the membership side actually went through and And I think not having to

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You know, my pro my programs go up now and I go in and check them once a month because they're social media programs and they change.

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But I don't have to go in in the sales process anymore.

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I don't ever touch the sales process anymore.

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It it happens. I actually do make money in my sleep because

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these products can just be sold without me having to wake up in the morning and be like, oh, let's make sure she actually got membership access or whatever.

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is the products of being able to to sell through it with in a tremendous amount of ease on my side.

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And no confusion from the buyer side either. You know, that was really

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important to me what my customer's experience would be in the checkout process.

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And and I like how simple it is.

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It's not there's no confusion about what buttons do I hit or what do I have to enter.

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It's really well late. It's really clean.

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Really simple.

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Because, obviously, using whatever system you use, that front end that your customer sees is a representation of you

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as well as a system you're using.

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- So it was really important to me that that part was really easy as
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Cool. Awesome.

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I'm curious, like, back to you and

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What's

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How have you had to grow

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yourself if you're comfortable talking about this in order to get to where you're today?

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What are some of the growth points?

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- So many.

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Yeah. I think as your business grows, you you evolve and have to sort of figure out new things.

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For me, I had a lot of, can I do this?

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Like, there are a lot of people in the social media space that know a lot of stuff. Mhmm.

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We're very, very smart.

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And who I respect quite a bit and was like, well, do I really need to be adding to that noise?

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And then I realized that, a, no 1 talking about social media or really anything else knows everything.

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There's always something new to bring. And also, I I learned very quickly that

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people

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that buy for me, people who learn for me wanna work and learn and buy for me.

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Because I'm me and I add my own unique spend of things. Mhmm.

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Even if I'm saying the exact same thing somebody else is saying, it's a unique experience when you work with me.

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- And so learning to accept that was kind of different.
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I think that's something that that a lot of people I mean, I'm I'm taking note myself here as you're saying that.

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- And it's something I learn over and over again

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all the time. It's 1 of those lessons I can't stop learning. Yeah.

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Denise, I feel Thomas, is somebody who I respect a lot.

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And she has something in the sort of money mindset

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realm, but I sort of apply it to this too. It's this new level, new devil.

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Like, you sort of you reach this new place and you're like, oh, I've got this.

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And then you hit a new 1 and you're like, oh, wait, new stuff.

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- Yes.
- There's a new level of exposure here. Let me make sure I can get myself comfortable with that.

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- Alright. And also, have you noticed that that the new level, it tends to it tends to be

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new stuff, but also some of the old stuff comes up again.

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Like, it's the you you kinda bump up against some of the same hurdles every single time you need to go through the next step.

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- Right?
- Absolutely.

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There's that am I good enough to be having anyone listen to me every time my email list hits a milestone because it's like here.

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Okay. I know enough for this amount of people to not to listen to me.

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But do I know enough for this amount of people who listen to me?

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So yeah. It's definitely the the same stuff. And so you sort of have to build

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ways to deal with it, which I think are probably different for everybody.

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I mostly just go fake it till you make it.

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We're just gonna keep going until it all blows up until the horrible thing where somebody comes up to me and says, I know nothing happens.

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I'm just gonna keep talking.

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- that's a great plan.
- For better or worse, we'll see how that goes. But But but

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- I've only been heckled at 1 speaking engagement so far. So
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And how many have you done this?

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- Let's see. We're up to, like, 10. I started speaking last year, so probably 10, maybe 15 events now.

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- Oh.
- And only the 1 time. It was the 1 time I was on a really big stage too.

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Like, I was in a, like, actually a theater room.

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And and this guy, I said something, and he goes, well, you can do that that way. And I'm like, yeah.

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But you can't actually do it that way. And by the way,

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I'm the 1 that came up to ask to stand up here. So why don't we just not

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disagree with me?

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Like, you can't do that, but it's against rules and we'll get your account deleted. So

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anyways, that was my only time being heckled, and it went pretty well. Everyone basically laughed.

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- When I made a joke. So I call it a win.
- That's good. Yes.

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Well, and and you were you got in the arena.

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Right. And that's what matters.

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- That's right.
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That's so cool.

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- Yeah. I'm I'm impressed. I'm very impressed.
- Oh, thank you.

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- You have a good
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- meet success. So
- For sure. Yeah. Yeah. And it's I mean, it's not easy to, like,

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you're caught off guard and you need to, like, deal within the moment. Right? You're not yeah.

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It's not like you're prepared for

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- You took the heck of a course before the first speaker.
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- Yeah.
- Because I'm like, who heck of a speakers, dude?

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- Oh,
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so cool.

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So what would your, like, number 1 advice be to to someone who's who wants to do kind of what you're not social media, but Blake wants to go through that same process of building their own business and supporting their family as you've done.

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- I think putting the systems in place earlier than you think you need them.

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And I mean that everything from something like Simpliero to something like calendar management tool.

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You know, I think 1 of the first systems I ever put in my business was time trade, and I don't use time trade anymore, but that was the first 1.

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The ability to give my clients a way to make paint an appointment with me without me having to do the email game.

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Mhmm. And I waited way too long to do that.

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And I waited way too long to add something like Simpliura where I could really

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bring all of my email list and my products and my affiliate program together.

417
00:27:25.899 --> 00:27:29.577
- I think putting those pieces together before you realize you must have them
- --
- Mhmm.

418
00:27:29.577 --> 00:27:31.357
- --
- makes it a lot less stressful.

419
00:27:31.896 --> 00:27:32.396
- Mhmm.

420
00:27:32.776 --> 00:27:34.755
- And also, I think, you know, I

421
00:27:35.224 --> 00:27:45.689
I kept my growth inside of inside of this instead of being able to come out here because I limited how I could serve people and how I could work with people and and customers experience

422
00:27:46.028 --> 00:27:48.767
is because I didn't put those systems in place. Mhmm.

423
00:27:48.827 --> 00:27:53.045
So I think putting those pieces in place as unfunded as it sounds

424
00:27:53.994 --> 00:27:58.152
It's really a way to open yourself up to a lot more success. Mhmm.

425
00:27:58.152 --> 00:28:00.771
And also make working a lot less stressful.

426
00:28:01.029 --> 00:28:04.008
Like, you know, those systems are what make your business

427
00:28:05.187 --> 00:28:09.874
work without you having to work so hard. Right. Again, whatever those systems are for you,

428
00:28:10.354 --> 00:28:13.072
- So I think I would have done that earlier.
- Alright. Yeah.

429
00:28:13.072 --> 00:28:21.738
Actually, I mean, if you wait wait to to install those systems until you're under a lot of stress, then you're just, like, the transition is always gonna be stressful.

430
00:28:21.738 --> 00:28:21.898
Right?

431
00:28:21.898 --> 00:28:32.232
- So now you're adding a lot of stress on top of a lot of stress instead of doing it while it's relatively calm and now you've got the structure in place to take you to the next level that's
- Absolutely.

432
00:28:32.332 --> 00:28:36.570
And you don't have the time to put the systems in place that save you time -- Mhmm.

433
00:28:36.570 --> 00:28:39.678
- --
- when you've run out of time.
- Exactly.
- You know what I mean? Yeah.

434
00:28:39.678 --> 00:28:44.136
So doing it a little before you think you're gonna need it a lot a lot less stressful.

435
00:28:44.996 --> 00:28:46.375
So I would definitely, you know,

436
00:28:47.094 --> 00:28:48.693
do it early. Do it do it early.

437
00:28:48.693 --> 00:28:52.171
You know, I'm not saying that you have to have day 1 or all of the things in a week.

438
00:28:52.171 --> 00:28:55.910
You don't have to put them all together at once. Mhmm. But identify them early.

439
00:28:56.209 --> 00:28:59.547
And start working towards that, you know, prioritize -- Yeah.

440
00:28:59.607 --> 00:29:02.925
- --
- what systems are gonna save you the most time and provide you the most value.

441
00:29:02.925 --> 00:29:11.250
I think you know, a lot of us hear from coaches and mentors and things that, you know, we're spending to waste of time on on tasks that don't make us money.

442
00:29:11.250 --> 00:29:14.358
And so the the first instinct is to hire a VA.

443
00:29:14.358 --> 00:29:20.604
Well, a lot of times, you don't necessarily need that super early if you can put systems in place to take a lot of those things away.

444
00:29:21.244 --> 00:29:24.362
You know, for example, I didn't need to hire a VA to do my scheduling.

445
00:29:24.362 --> 00:29:27.919
- I needed to get a scheduling system that I could just email to somebody.
- Right.

446
00:29:28.799 --> 00:29:31.617
- So, you know, they're also a lot less expensive thanvas.

447
00:29:32.437 --> 00:29:35.815
And then the money I do invest in having help in a VA

448
00:29:36.424 --> 00:29:41.641
she or he can spend doing really tasks that are also gonna make me money instead of handling, scheduling.

449
00:29:41.861 --> 00:29:45.399
- Right. Yeah.
- So I I think those systems are are

450
00:29:45.779 --> 00:29:51.536
- a lot more necessary than we think early on. Mhmm. A lot more helpful.
- Yeah. That makes sense.

451
00:29:51.536 --> 00:29:57.992
And then 1 whenever you hire someone, make sure that they're a revenue center, and to make sure that they bring in

452
00:29:58.412 --> 00:29:58.912
money,

453
00:29:59.251 --> 00:29:59.751
like,

454
00:30:01.619 --> 00:30:02.119
obviously,

455
00:30:02.618 --> 00:30:07.116
- it's good to save you time, but it's really great if they also make you money. Right?
- Absolutely.

456
00:30:07.896 --> 00:30:12.842
Yeah. Yeah. You know, and I think we get so focused on the idea of hiring help to

457
00:30:13.382 --> 00:30:16.061
save us time. So we can we can make more money.

458
00:30:16.061 --> 00:30:20.707
- But if you can get that person making money to cover their salary and
- and save you time.

459
00:30:20.707 --> 00:30:26.893
- Add you add save you time and add, you know, revenue to your pocket, then that's really the setup to go for.

460
00:30:26.893 --> 00:30:37.457
- And the nice thing also about putting the systems together when you have the time to put them together and the space to do it is you can also create, you know, 1 of the things I do is when I use a new system, I do a video screen
- -- Mhmm.

461
00:30:37.457 --> 00:30:45.523
- --
- grab of everything I'm doing so that when I add to my team or as I bring somebody new in, even if it's just a contractor, I don't have to spend a lot of time explaining it to them.

462
00:30:45.523 --> 00:30:47.022
Mhmm. I can simply

463
00:30:47.882 --> 00:30:51.000
add them to a folder I have on Drive that's called training videos.

464
00:30:51.000 --> 00:30:55.517
- They find a video they eat and and they figure out how to do it for my business.
- Cool.

465
00:30:55.617 --> 00:31:00.474
- Because, you know, there may be 6 different people that know how to use SimpliRO, but they don't know where my stuff is.

466
00:31:00.514 --> 00:31:02.773
- You don't know how I have it organized.
- Yeah.

467
00:31:03.432 --> 00:31:06.331
Have you looked into have you looked at screen That's screen mailer?

468
00:31:07.070 --> 00:31:09.579
- What's that?
- Screen mailer. Have you looked at that?
- No.

469
00:31:09.579 --> 00:31:13.437
- I just put them all in a drive folder because I live in Google apps.
- Okay.

470
00:31:13.497 --> 00:31:17.873
Now is this is this tool that that we use to do customer service when we shoot videos?

471
00:31:17.873 --> 00:31:19.293
Have you gotten 1 of those? Mm-mm.

472
00:31:19.872 --> 00:31:20.272
No.

473
00:31:20.272 --> 00:31:25.708
Sometimes, like, when people write, it's just easier to show it than to actually, like, write down when people do so.

474
00:31:25.808 --> 00:31:31.045
So I do that so much that 1 of my friends, he started up he created a product for this.

475
00:31:31.045 --> 00:31:33.065
So, like, it it'll record your screen.

476
00:31:33.134 --> 00:31:36.912
And then as soon as you're done, it starts uploading as it's recording.

477
00:31:37.412 --> 00:31:47.836
And as soon as it's done, it it puts a link to the video on your clipboard so you can just paste it in Even while it's still uploading, it knows what the link is, so it's not necessarily done uploading yet.

478
00:31:47.836 --> 00:31:52.703
But you can send that to someone and be on your way with the next thing while it's uploading the rest in the background.

479
00:31:52.703 --> 00:31:57.321
- It's super awesome. It's And
- where do I find that at?
- Screen mailer dot com.

480
00:31:57.639 --> 00:32:01.637
- Okay.
- I know what we're doing after I'm done now.
- It's really useful. It's so cool.

481
00:32:01.637 --> 00:32:06.374
- Because I do that a lot with my 1 on 1 clients with social you know, they'll be like, I don't know where find this.

482
00:32:06.374 --> 00:32:10.811
So I will go in and I'll make a quick video, but I have to wait for it to process and everything because I record it with Camtasia.

483
00:32:10.811 --> 00:32:14.879
So I have to wait for it to export and upload it to Dropbox or drive or whatever. Yeah.

484
00:32:15.058 --> 00:32:17.717
- Sounds super awesome for that kind of stuff.
- Are you on Windows?

485
00:32:18.457 --> 00:32:21.274
- No. I use a Mac.
- Oh, good. Yeah. Good. Yeah. It's a Mac.

486
00:32:21.314 --> 00:32:25.672
So it just lives in your menu bar, you click it, start recording, and and that's it.

487
00:32:25.672 --> 00:32:28.011
- It's
- very exciting.
- It's so convenient. Yeah.

488
00:32:28.390 --> 00:32:31.228
So Jonas. That's my friend, Jonas. He

489
00:32:33.147 --> 00:32:34.506
it's so cool. He's in Chile.

490
00:32:34.506 --> 00:32:38.604
He's from Denmark, but he's in Chile right now and and some start up startup chiller program.

491
00:32:39.453 --> 00:32:40.193
Very cool.

492
00:32:40.533 --> 00:32:43.911
Trying to make this a business. Yeah. It's an awesome tool. Anyway,

493
00:32:44.251 --> 00:32:44.751
so

494
00:32:45.091 --> 00:32:46.030
plug for him.

495
00:32:48.098 --> 00:32:49.638
Tell us about, like,

496
00:32:51.737 --> 00:32:53.996
if people wanna find out more about you,

497
00:32:54.824 --> 00:32:59.522
where do they go? And and and and what what have you got in a store for them?

498
00:33:00.461 --> 00:33:03.080
- Everything about me is over at b staciehiris

499
00:33:03.459 --> 00:33:07.887
- dot com. Good. Not
- sure to post a link.
- Yeah. Everything is right over there.

500
00:33:07.887 --> 00:33:10.066
Links to me on social, links all my products.

501
00:33:10.126 --> 00:33:14.273
In the next couple of weeks, we're launching a brand new program. Well, it's actually launched now.

502
00:33:14.273 --> 00:33:16.852
We're actually starting the program called Social Pro,

503
00:33:17.192 --> 00:33:21.410
- which is a program where I am teaching people to build social media strategies
- -- Mhmm.

504
00:33:21.410 --> 00:33:23.099
- --
- like a social media manager would.

505
00:33:23.619 --> 00:33:27.477
Plus we have a whole module on hiring your social media dream team.

506
00:33:27.577 --> 00:33:35.922
So if you're somebody who wants to know enough to be able to hire your team, This will teach you so you can have an intelligent conversation with them.

507
00:33:36.022 --> 00:33:47.326
And also teach you how to hire them and teach you how to outsource it in a way where you feel confident outsourcing it and you're not going to sort of get the wool pulled over your eyes, and you can get somebody who's really going to be what you need,

508
00:33:47.826 --> 00:33:50.085
not somebody who says they're what you need.

509
00:33:50.514 --> 00:33:51.353
That happens a lot.

510
00:33:51.353 --> 00:33:57.930
I get a lot of those clients who have already done that and then they come to me and they're like, I hate this and I'm like, it's okay we'll fix it.

511
00:33:58.869 --> 00:34:00.209
So that's social pro.

512
00:34:01.088 --> 00:34:03.188
And then we'll run business amplifier mastermind.

513
00:34:03.207 --> 00:34:06.426
Again, we're doing 2 sessions this year of social pro and 2 of bam.

514
00:34:08.034 --> 00:34:15.090
So if you miss this in January, then then we'll be running Social Pro again in the fall and bam in the middle, which is a 3 month mastermind.

515
00:34:15.579 --> 00:34:20.136
And it's much more business growth focused. We pick 1 marketing goal. Sometimes it's a launch.

516
00:34:20.136 --> 00:34:22.196
Sometimes it is a change in services.

517
00:34:22.863 --> 00:34:26.641
Sometimes it's building a marketing strategy for a new program or a new product.

518
00:34:27.261 --> 00:34:32.737
- Whatever it is, we pick 1 goal and we spend 3 months part group, part 1 on 1 with me
- --
- Mhmm.

519
00:34:32.797 --> 00:34:36.136
-- doing everything we need to do to get you to that goal at the end of the 3 months.

520
00:34:36.476 --> 00:34:40.673
Most of my clients have launched a program or hire people so that they could

521
00:34:41.892 --> 00:34:45.668
outsource part of their their work and bring on a new piece

522
00:34:46.388 --> 00:34:51.406
at the end of that 3 months. They are ready to go. So that runs spring and summer.

523
00:34:53.074 --> 00:34:59.870
- Wonderful. Awesome. Crazy. Thank you.
- Big year. Yes.
- It sounds like it. It sounds like it. Alright.

524
00:34:59.870 --> 00:35:03.908
The final question that I have for you, is I'm gonna turn it back. So

525
00:35:04.367 --> 00:35:05.067
on Simparro.

526
00:35:05.127 --> 00:35:12.203
So if someone is looking at Simparro and is thinking and is kind of on the fence about whether or not to go with simpler for their reasons.

527
00:35:13.302 --> 00:35:21.978
It could be that they're, like, just starting out and they're, like, concerned it's gonna be too much of an expense, if they're not, if they don't make that much money or succeed?

528
00:35:22.797 --> 00:35:26.555
Or it could be, you know, is it gonna support them long term for their reasons?

529
00:35:26.555 --> 00:35:28.963
What would your what would your advice to them be?

530
00:35:28.963 --> 00:35:31.822
Or what would you what would your response to them be?

531
00:35:33.361 --> 00:35:33.861
- My

532
00:35:34.201 --> 00:35:36.178
advice would definitely need to do it.

533
00:35:36.178 --> 00:35:40.356
Like I said earlier, I think starting the systems before you think you're fully ready for them

534
00:35:40.776 --> 00:35:42.415
is a really good way to go.

535
00:35:42.415 --> 00:35:46.963
And the nice thing about something like Simpliero is it really it does grow with you, you know.

536
00:35:46.963 --> 00:35:48.822
You're gonna have the ability to

537
00:35:49.282 --> 00:35:53.180
handle your bake list, sell your, you know, your passive income programs

538
00:35:53.499 --> 00:35:55.078
set up your affiliate programs

539
00:35:55.618 --> 00:35:59.636
just because you have the capacity to do that right now, doesn't you have to start it all tomorrow.

540
00:36:00.775 --> 00:36:01.275
But

541
00:36:01.724 --> 00:36:06.062
having those options already in your sort of system availability

542
00:36:06.801 --> 00:36:09.940
is gonna be a lot less stressful for you later. And also,

543
00:36:10.409 --> 00:36:11.029
you know,

544
00:36:11.528 --> 00:36:14.907
I think we always have a fear when there's going to be something new.

545
00:36:15.566 --> 00:36:17.125
You know, is this really it?

546
00:36:17.125 --> 00:36:20.343
Especially when we're all being marketed so much as online entrepreneurs.

547
00:36:20.403 --> 00:36:24.661
This is the tool for you and this is the thing for you and this is the course for you and this is the coach for you.

548
00:36:25.401 --> 00:36:29.027
So I always wear and trust in your gut, talking to people who have also used it.

549
00:36:29.027 --> 00:36:31.646
If you're watching this, you're obviously pretty, like,

550
00:36:32.066 --> 00:36:33.046
ready to go.

551
00:36:34.114 --> 00:36:38.092
To go with it, trust your gut and and give it a try. Nothing is

552
00:36:38.432 --> 00:36:39.451
is going to

553
00:36:40.671 --> 00:36:43.089
stop you more than do just not taking action.

554
00:36:43.489 --> 00:36:45.388
That's gonna be the thing that's most detrimental.

555
00:36:45.888 --> 00:36:48.226
So jump in, start using it, and you'll realize

556
00:36:48.686 --> 00:36:53.053
that it really is totally able to grow with you. As you grow, but also

557
00:36:53.833 --> 00:36:56.651
allows you to put the things in place as you need them.

558
00:36:56.911 --> 00:37:01.007
You don't have to start your affiliate programs a day you start using Sempiro if you don't want to.

559
00:37:01.007 --> 00:37:09.543
I actually didn't have an affiliate program in Sempiro for, like, 6 weeks after I started the program because I hadn't decided if we were going to launch it last year or this year.

560
00:37:09.543 --> 00:37:12.841
Mhmm. And we did, and it's awesome, and I love it. But

561
00:37:13.381 --> 00:37:19.098
you don't have to have all of the pieces working right away, but it is nice to have all pieces available to you right away.

562
00:37:20.597 --> 00:37:23.016
- Alright. From Stacy's mouth to your ears,

563
00:37:24.595 --> 00:37:28.773
- thank you so much, Stacy. I really appreciate you taking the time to chat with me.
- Thank you.

564
00:37:28.773 --> 00:37:31.272
- It was a lot of fun.
- I admire what you're doing.

565
00:37:31.851 --> 00:37:35.009
It's so inspiring just to to hear about and to talk to you.

566
00:37:35.288 --> 00:37:40.226
- Well, I
- get to do it because I use some plural, so thank you.
- Thank you. I will be on it.

567
00:37:40.606 --> 00:37:44.664
- Thank you. Alright.
- Thanks.
- Have an amazing day, and thank you very much for being

568
00:37:45.487 --> 00:37:47.986
- Alright. Thank you.
- Thank you.
- Bye.

